Draw a line under the 'Notch". There is your bezel.
It is a bezel that is still needed on all iPhone releases. On the iPhone 8, the bezel goes from side to side. On the X, the bezel is shortened. This is what you are referring to as the notch.
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iPhone X 'notch' not noticeable
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We are rehashing the same disagreements we've had in the past.. I am all for non owners commenting on the X but the comments should be based on actual usage IF they are claiming this, that or the other. It's the as a matter of fact type comments about the X, from non owners that are the problem. Well, that and the fact they feel the need to interject into every X there there is...
Anyways, nobody is forced to buy it. The notch will remain in the 2018's and probably in the 2019's as well. People can accept that or move on to an older iPhone or Android. As far as I know, not a single person was forced to buy the X and unless there is a thread somewhere that I missed, nobody was denied returning it within their 14-days here in the US. Not sure how the rest of the world does returns, time frame wise..
That's the one argument I can't wrap my head around. When you zoom, you're typically chopping off the top and bottom of the picture. Yet people complain that there's a notch missing? It's probably less picture than the user just voluntarily tossed out, yet somehow it's a problem?
I think I just enjoy my media too much. I would never dream of tossing out the top and bottom of my movie, notch or no notch. To be fair, I could never understand the full-screen crowd either back in the DVD days. People voluntarily tossed out the sides of their movie because they didn't want black bars on the top and bottom. Seeing every pixel lit-up on the display was more important than seeing the whole movie as intended. It still mystifies me. I suspect there's a fair amount of cross-over between the two groups.
I think a lot of the notch issues could be solved by blacking out the sides of the notch and a proportionately size bottom blackout area when video is being watched. This could be done via app updates or iOS update.
That could appease some but others will still not be happy. The notch for me at least allows the largest sized screen in a compact'ish sized phone. Had Apple chose bezels like the S8/S9 then the phone would either be larger OR the screen smaller.
Since you have your personal definition of a notch and bezel vs actual definition we can agree to disagree on what is what.
Thanks for your input.
Well thanks for sharing what you think are the rules for iPhone X discussion and who you feel qualifies but that’s not how it works. You’re right nobody is forced to buy an iPhone X and nobody is forced to read and respond to comments on here either. If people choose to create threads specifically about the notch then expect that very topic to be discussed.
I have an X and don’t like the notch. I do like the size and camera though.
Honestly there are very rare if any cases where I feel a product is absolutely perfect.
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It makes sense people would get used to a notch. Sort of like looking at a mole on your girlfriends nose everyday. Eventually you don't notice it anymore... Unless someone points it out.
Good point.
What I find amusing are the people who act like having a mole on her nose is something she or you wanted or decided to do even if you’re given the option not to.
Not at all what I said.. People can post whatever they want as I am not the jailer...
So you think that someone who post 'as a matter of fact' type statements about something they've never owned has any credibility?
You also think that it's okay to derail every thread with the same comments over and over again?
It's really only a handful of users who do it but they in effect take over every discussion and derail them with the same comments. If you can't see that then there is nothing I can do to make you see it.
An opinion is one thing but making 'as a matter of fact' statements is another when it comes from a non owner. Plenty have said in other threads and here that the notch was a concern before buying but that after using it it, the concerns were unfounded...
The one point where we agree is that the price you pay in the UK is crazy and I would not have purchased at that price either..
But you have to remember everyone has an opinion. Unfortunately whether people want to hear it or not.
It makes sense people would get used to a notch. Sort of like looking at a mole on your girlfriends nose everyday. Eventually you don't notice it anymore... Unless someone points it out.
This has been my point all along. It’s possible to own anything but dislike a certain aspect of it. Remember owners here discussing antenna bands on the iPhone 6, not always positive but those same people owned the phone. You get used to it and it’s no big deal. It’s also possible to not own something but hold an opinion on how you think it looks.
Hasn’t the Plus versions outsold the non Plus versions implying that a slightly larger X wouldn’t have any problems selling?
Matter of fact statements are pointless whether you’re an owner or not because everybody’s opinion is different anyway. I don’t believe owning a device makes anybody’s opinion more valid, especially concerning a visible aesthetic that anybody can see and judge subjectively.
It’s probably best to get back to discussing the notch, if that’s ok as this whole tangent is derailing the thread.
I think that depends on the market. I know bigger iPhones are more popular in the US and Asia whereas Plus size iPhones are a rarer sight in Europe in my experience. Overall though in global sales the Plus did better one year I believe. It’s all relative though.
Of course owning something makes their point more valid, depending on the discussion.. Owners of a Ford Focus don't have a better understanding of the real world use gas milage than someone who read the ratings online OR test drove one for 10 miles?
Anyways, I agree... Back on topic..
To me the notch is, for the most part, not noticeable. When I do notice it I think it gives the phone a unique look and more importantly to me, it allowed Apple to make a phone the same size as the 8 but with a much larger screen..
I love my iPhone X.
The notch is a non-issue.
The iPhone X is the best iPhone yet.
The notch is a non-issue.
The iPhone X is the best iPhone yet.
No but you don’t have to own a Ford Focus to have the opinion you don’t like the front end of it.
As you say, depending on the discussion. Non X owners would not be able to argue battery life with those that do own one as real world use will have a better understanding. You don’t have to own an X to say whether or not you like the look of it though. Much like a Ford Focus. Good night everyone.
Agree! Best phone I've ever owned and I had reservations before I took the plunge but they were quickly alleviated after a few days of use...
I think my point was that a thicker top and bottom bezel similar to the s9 would’ve been less of an “issue” or at least a topic of discussion than the notch is.Not sure.. But yes I bet an X Plus would sell like crazy! Just not to me...
For me, I would have stuck with the 8 if the X was any larger. Bezels on the top and bottom of the X would have either made the phone larger or the screen smaller. I also had the Essential PH1 mainly because I've always wanted a large screen in a smaller form factor. When I saw the PH1, I bought it because it offered what I was looking for... The notch on it didn't bother me and for the most part, I liked the design of it. It had other serious issues that kept it from being a stellar phone but the notch was not one of them in my opinion...
How did you ever get used to the bottom bezel on that phone. What a HUGE design flaw. So hideous.
How did you ever get used to the bottom bezel on that phone. What a HUGE design flaw. So hideous.
That was one of the things I didn't like about it.. That and the camera, and the OS stability and the........ The notch was fine and it was almost all screen even with the goofy bottom bezel.
When I was considering the X the notch never caused me concern. My concerns with the X were faceID and gestures. In the end my concerns were unfounded..
The camera, gestures and size were selling points to me.
iOS is what it is and it not have consistent UX across iOS devices doesn’t make sense as far as a seemless ecosystem goes.
Could’ve taken or left the faceid. Generally the design reminded me of the 3GS with the iPhone 5s being my favorite iteration overal.
Yeah and since this thread is about the notch I personally would’ve preferred to implement the front camera and sensors in a less obtrusive way.
In a perfect world the iPhone X would be all screen. But alas, the world and Apple are not perfect. They couldn't find any place to put these necessities so we have the abbreviated bezel(the notch). We can only hope for perfection in the future.
Regarding the notch, my need/wants are simple and reasonable, it doesn’t have to be perfect just give me a rectangular screen with 4 straight edges like all of my other iOS devices...
