Well, before Apple makes iPhone X Plus they have to do something about the knotch. I have the iPhone X but I hate the knotch. Please get rid of it. It is an eyesore.
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iPhone X Plus Should Lead Apple to Significantly Increase OLED Display Orders Next Year
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I guess they’ll use iPhone 9 for the LCD iPhone and maybe iPhone 10s/10s Plus for the X successor. Maybe iPhone 11/11 Plus if they don’t want to use ‘s’ anymore. I think their use of ‘X’ was a one time deal.
Well, I think someone just enlarged iPhone X and called it iPhone X Plus. Obviously, the notch will be smaller. But I hope on the next iPhone there is no NOTch. I can't stand it on my current iPhone X. I know a lot of us just excepted it like this but I am sure a lot of people are not happy with it but we have no choice.
I'm holding out for the x+ as my kind of phone and hope it comes along soon. However I'm really worried apple is going to price it too high. I find it hard to justify such high costs just to have a phone that competes design wise with android design. I will pay myself but feel others will abandon iOS in droves this year and will cause the iOS ecosystem to contract a little. I still feel with apples small market share they have the most profitable ecosystem for developers so it remains the best app platform but that might change if they continue to hike prices for design improvements that everyone is doing at the previous years prices.
I haven’t read the thread yet. Has anyone posted “Die Samsung die”? Or “I don’t want any Samsung components in my iPhone? Or Samsung sells the most displays but Apple makes the most profit?
I expect it will shrink a bit each year in width and height over the next three or four years.
It certainly won’t get larger, as depicted in that mock-up.
doubtful, however the optical illusion of perception might make it "look" like it is smaller.
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That's what she said!
Sure, Apple now uses inferior Intel baseband -- it didn't seem to require much courage to go a couple of notches below to save money and nobody is complaining I guess. Apple could use inferior displays from LG, or anyone else for that mtter, and still market their phones as premium phones; though I'm inclined to believe that LG mobile OLED is still nowhere near Samsung's.
Samsung's made 95+% of all OLED mobile display for almost a full decade now. Apple is a big customer, but it's pretty much the same OLED with different calibration and brightness. There is really nothing to bring "in house" unless you are speculating that Apple is going into material or processing/manufacturing engineering.
It is taller, but it’s also narrower. The Plus models actually have more screen area than the X.
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No, Apple engineered a better display and Samsung manufactured it. The green sub-pixels are a different shape, they are more square. The display has a higher fill factor than the displays Samsung uses for their own phones.
This is very good point. I concur. I have bigly hands. No problems there I assure you. The width of the Plus phones is much more comfortable to use for me.
Those ideas were the result of some misreading of what DisplayMate actually said.
Samsung had already used that green shape.
As for the fill factor, DisplayMate was comparing Samsung's Diamond SubPixel arrangement to other OLEDs without it.
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I disagree with both your statements.
1) Samsung certainly didn’t use that green shape on the S8 or Note8 displays, and I haven’t seen any evidence of anyone other than Apple using it. Maybe you have though.
2) DisplayMate said:
“This Diamond Sub-Pixel layout is used on many OLED displays. On the iPhone X the resulting Sub-Pixel fill factor is much higher than other OLEDs”
The comparison is clearly between the Diamond Sub-Pixel used on many OLEDs (including Samsung obviously) and iPhone X. Not Diamond Sub-Pixel layout vs other layouts, like Pentile. So I think you misread what DisplayMate said.
Full screen brightness is more than 10% higher on the X than on Note 8, which is evidence of a higher fill factor.
Same ratio as every single other bezeless display. It’s 18:9 not 21:9. Egged then a 18:9:8 thouhh
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IPhone 11 X replacement
iPhone 11 Plus
iPhone 9 6.1 LCD
iPhone 8+
iPhone SE2
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It is 16:9 below the notch. Every bezeless display is using the same aspect ratio
An earlier report said Apple will lower pricing on the X replacement, due to decreased production and materials costs. So, with that in mind, I see the replacement for the current X starting at $899, with the plus size starting at $999. I wouldn't be surprised if pricing falls closer to standard 8/8 Plus pricing, maybe starting at $799 or $849 and $949 or $999 ranges. The 6.1" LCD will probably start at $699 or $749.
There... mark it down. I predicted pricing before Kuo.
There... mark it down. I predicted pricing before Kuo.
I own an 8+ and I'd be interested in a X+, although the X itself is tempting. Something in the middle would be awesome, basically current plus screen size without bezel. I prefer my 8+ aspect ratio, better for landscape mode and for viewing content in general, so either a slightly wider X or a Plus with less bezels would be the perfect phone.
They don't have to put an home button on the top, so a bezel high like the notch could be ok and on the top they could put the sensor without extending the display.
They don't have to put an home button on the top, so a bezel high like the notch could be ok and on the top they could put the sensor without extending the display.
This is flat-out incorrect.
iPhone X screen dimensions, in points, are: 812h x 375w in Portrait. Swap h & w for Landscape.
The notch is 30 points. If you want the pixels multiply by 3.
Anyway here are the aspects :
812/375*9 = 19.488 (Incl. notch) -> 19.488:9
(812-30)/375*9 = 18.768 (Excl. notch) -> 18.768:9
So below the notch the aspect is not 16:9 but 18.768:9
(hence the enormous black bars left and right when watching movie in 16:9 format.
In regards to bezel-free... Put the iPhone X in your own hand and look at it. I see a bezel !
Bezel-free phones are hard to make, at least as long as we need to hear what the caller has to say.
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I'd prefer Apple swapping their Apple Logo with a Finger Print scanner...
Currently the logo is useless but replacing it with a fingerprint scanner would be perfect for the index finger.
Even better than current home button..
When you hold the iPhone 8 or 8 Plus in your hand the index finger more or less naturally overlays the Apple Logo.
If you remember some rumours back in spring were talking about TouchID on the back of the phone. Even some pictures seemed to prove such a thing, with a circle on the back.
I love touchID, but I like it on the front. I always use a cover so I'd need one with an hole on the back and you're right when you say your finger goes on that spot when you hold the phone, but I don't think Apple will change his mind and go back to TouchID.
They just told us FaceID is better and more secure, so I guess all future iPhones will feature FaceID and a design similar to iPhone X. I'm not a fan of the notch, but I don't find it so annoying, so I'm ready for the jump.
Some Android phones have a finger print scanner on the back, and I know some people that are happy about that, so it isn't a bad solution. I guess Apple thought about that at the early development stage of X, but once they knew they could use face detection they went for that, and I don't think they're going back
You're right. Most folks use a cover which would void the idea entirely.
I was projecting since I don't pay USD1000 for a phone to hide its beauty in a $12 cover. Sort of beats the purpose of buying a beautiful phone -
The diagonal of the rumored X Plus is 6.5. So that implies an aspect ratio the same as the current X (19.5:1).
The width of the rumored X Plus would be the same as the 8 Plus. So would the height. It’ll still have the ears.
Also, apparently taking photos at that resolution often rounds off the ends of sharp corners.
No. The sentence is: "On the iPhone X the resulting Sub-Pixel fill factor is much higher than other OLEDs”. They're not talking about other Diamond SubPixel layouts. If you search out their other Samsung Diamond display reviews, they say the same thing about about subpixel fill factor for those as well. But I can see how some people got confused.
In a much clearer statement, DisplayMate explicity gave Samsung credit for the hardware, and said that the difference was the calibration:
"First we need to congratulate Samsung Display for developing and manufacturing the outstanding OLED display hardware in the iPhone X.
"But what makes the iPhone X the Best Smartphone Display is the impressive Precision Display Calibration that Apple developed that transforms the OLED hardware into a superbly accurate, high performance, and gorgeous display!!"
This is the photo of iPhone X vs Note 8. The rectangular green sub pixel is unique to the iPhone X; Note 8 and S8 have oval green subpixels. The Tab photo you posted looks more oval than rounded rectangle, but it’s pixelated so hard to tell.
The fill factor is higher on the X display. DisplayMate didn’t even mention the fill factor of the Note 8 or S8, while praising it in the X. They credit the higher fill factor for the higher full screen [edited to add: peak brightness] of X, which is in fact higher than Note 8/S8.
You might not have seen the Tom’s Guide article where they said “Apple did a ton of work at the subpixel level”.
Apple has its own OLED R&D group. Joswiak from Apple said "We had to do a lot of engineering to come up with panels that were better.”
So yes, Samsung manufactured them, but that doesn’t mean they were responsible for all of the engineering.
You’re trying to say that calibration is the only difference, however those in a better position to know say different.
Right now, the partnership of Apple and Samsung has produced the best phone display available. We’ll see what Samsung can do for themselves soon when the S9 comes out.
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