Yes and toms hardware also provided data points,wish you brushed off as inaccurate.
That doesn’t make it any less hypocritical.
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Yes and toms hardware also provided data points,wish you brushed off as inaccurate.
That doesn’t make it any less hypocritical.
I brushed of the Brightness that they quoted as it was way off the figure displaymate got. Until Displaymate review the iPhone X display im not going to draw any solid conclusions. I think i'm being very reasonable.
Call it what you will, I posted one post in the iPhone section about some figures that did not match a very well respected Display review in Displaymate and you got super defensive about it. Anyway I really don't want to derail this thread any further. Bye
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How is the Pixel more brighter than the Note 8? That’s just not possible. I have seen the Pixel 2 XL and it wasn’t as bright as my 7 Plus let alone the Note 8. It was noticeably less bright.
Yes as I said the figures on that tomshardware site don't add up but lets wait for the displaymate review
Also 574 nits is just as bright as my 7 Plus. Nothing exceptional.
https://m.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7_plus-review-1506p3.php
The iPhone 7 Plus offers a maximum brightness of 570nits at the far end of its brightness slider, which is slightly lesser than the iPhone 6s Plus. If you leave it on Auto, however, the screen will readily go as high as 680 nits in bright light conditions, which is certainly nice.
I am expecting the iPhone X OLED to blow away my iPhone 7 LCD. Something is flawed in that test or it’s not boost mode
What does it score with boost mode? That’s the important thing
https://m.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7_plus-review-1506p3.php
The iPhone 7 Plus offers a maximum brightness of 570nits at the far end of its brightness slider, which is slightly lesser than the iPhone 6s Plus. If you leave it on Auto, however, the screen will readily go as high as 680 nits in bright light conditions, which is certainly nice.
I am expecting the iPhone X OLED to blow away my iPhone 7 LCD. Something is flawed in that test or it’s not boost mode
What does it score with boost mode? That’s the important thing
So obviously, for there to be some kind of scale (or "rating"), there's a metric/set of metrics, and component X will fall onto the scale relative to others. That being said, with these "flagship" devices, we've approached quality that's high enough across most makes models (or in the context of this thread, Apple vs. Others), that _really_ the only point of comparison is so the owner/enthusiast/supporter of device A can thumb their nose at the owner/enthusiast/supporter of device B.
I mean, I [mostly] use my device in isolation**. If I used it, have a fantastic experience, reviewed photos that were clearly an accurate representation, watched a video that had incredible impact, etc., then put it away and was handed a different device that gave the same experience - I'd call that a tie, even if WeRateDisplaySoYouCanTroll.com gave one a 96 and the other a 97 (out of 100).
I guess having been in the industry for a long time, the logic behind my choice of devices goes beyond some very minor, instrument measured differences in components.
Following quoted to support, "Yeah, this is my perspective too".
**I even do some cross platform development, and so I'm someone who does see more than one device in short periods, and it's still, it makes no difference to me.
I'm wondering if the sharpness on small text and curved icons (notification dot, orientation lock) is closer to the 8, or 8 Plus.
I find the 326ppi regular iPhone a bit lacking and can notice some blockiness without looking hard, while the 401ppi Plus is significantly sharper. The X has a still higher PPI, but with shared red and blue subpixels at 2/3rds the pure numeric number of pixels.
I find the 326ppi regular iPhone a bit lacking and can notice some blockiness without looking hard, while the 401ppi Plus is significantly sharper. The X has a still higher PPI, but with shared red and blue subpixels at 2/3rds the pure numeric number of pixels.
https://translate.google.com/transl...om/review/apple-iphone-x-fl.shtml&prev=search
Unfortunately, Apple could not buy from Samsung screens of recent generations, since their cost was prohibitively high, Samsung left such a matrix for their devices. As a result, Apple was content with generation 5, that is, the level of the Galaxy S6 matrix (for comparison, in Note 8 there is a screen of generation 8, and in S9 in half a year it will be the 9th generation). For the average person, all these generations look like a sort of gibberish, which does not say anything.
So, the first ideological solution is to limit the brightness of the screen, by default it is set to 625 nits (manual adjustment), that is exactly the same level as the iPhone 7/8 and other models. This is a comfortable level for the room, but in bright sun it is not so good (sorry, but in Moscow it's rainy and it's hard to show it in the photos). For comparison, in the automatic mode iPhone X issues 725 nits, under the same conditions and also with automatic adjustment of the Samsung Galaxy S8 + 1 000 nits, and Note 8 1 200 nits. That is, the current flagship from Samsung gives brightness almost twice as much, which makes the picture in bright light much more realistic, you do not see fading and, for example, when photographing, you can achieve realistic results, for example, when correcting the exposure, and do not do it at random .
But the comparison with Galaxy Note 8, it will lose, this matrix of different generations, the display from the iPhone should rather be compared with the Galaxy S6. But for the iPhone audience, in any case, this is a strong step forward, since they did not see anything comparable, they simply do not have experience in using high-quality AMOLED screens.
Like the S8, the iPhone X has True Tone technology, it uses the RGB sensor on the front panel to evaluate the lighting conditions and shift the white balance point, colors are more natural. In my opinion, this is a good technology that makes the picture more natural, no matter where you look at it, in bed under a blanket, in an office or on the street. The sensor tries to bring the picture to some common denominator. In screens from Samsung generation 8 and 9, more advanced RGB sensors are used, with a more accurate estimate of the illumination, plus two on the front and back surfaces. Great brightness allows you to adjust the white balance in a wide range, which makes the picture the same in almost all conditions. In the iPhone X, this is not the case, there is not enough capacity in the display. But again, for people who have not tried the best, this will be a definite step forward.
The advantage of the AMOLED screen in this device is reduced to none by the fact that Apple could not integrate it correctly (there is no additional chip to control the screen modes, even despite the saving on brightness). While I was studying this phone, I was always feeling that Apple was saving on small things to fit into the development budget and the BOM-list.
Unfortunately, Apple could not buy from Samsung screens of recent generations, since their cost was prohibitively high, Samsung left such a matrix for their devices. As a result, Apple was content with generation 5, that is, the level of the Galaxy S6 matrix (for comparison, in Note 8 there is a screen of generation 8, and in S9 in half a year it will be the 9th generation). For the average person, all these generations look like a sort of gibberish, which does not say anything.
So, the first ideological solution is to limit the brightness of the screen, by default it is set to 625 nits (manual adjustment), that is exactly the same level as the iPhone 7/8 and other models. This is a comfortable level for the room, but in bright sun it is not so good (sorry, but in Moscow it's rainy and it's hard to show it in the photos). For comparison, in the automatic mode iPhone X issues 725 nits, under the same conditions and also with automatic adjustment of the Samsung Galaxy S8 + 1 000 nits, and Note 8 1 200 nits. That is, the current flagship from Samsung gives brightness almost twice as much, which makes the picture in bright light much more realistic, you do not see fading and, for example, when photographing, you can achieve realistic results, for example, when correcting the exposure, and do not do it at random .
But the comparison with Galaxy Note 8, it will lose, this matrix of different generations, the display from the iPhone should rather be compared with the Galaxy S6. But for the iPhone audience, in any case, this is a strong step forward, since they did not see anything comparable, they simply do not have experience in using high-quality AMOLED screens.
Like the S8, the iPhone X has True Tone technology, it uses the RGB sensor on the front panel to evaluate the lighting conditions and shift the white balance point, colors are more natural. In my opinion, this is a good technology that makes the picture more natural, no matter where you look at it, in bed under a blanket, in an office or on the street. The sensor tries to bring the picture to some common denominator. In screens from Samsung generation 8 and 9, more advanced RGB sensors are used, with a more accurate estimate of the illumination, plus two on the front and back surfaces. Great brightness allows you to adjust the white balance in a wide range, which makes the picture the same in almost all conditions. In the iPhone X, this is not the case, there is not enough capacity in the display. But again, for people who have not tried the best, this will be a definite step forward.
The advantage of the AMOLED screen in this device is reduced to none by the fact that Apple could not integrate it correctly (there is no additional chip to control the screen modes, even despite the saving on brightness). While I was studying this phone, I was always feeling that Apple was saving on small things to fit into the development budget and the BOM-list.
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According to this guy at AnandTech, the iPhone X's display is of higher quality than the Note 8's display.
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/iphone-8-w-hexa-core-a11.2518420/page-3#post-39151705
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/iphone-8-w-hexa-core-a11.2518420/page-3#post-39151705
Anyone who thought Apple didn't put a quality display on the X is just pure biased. As for if it is better then the Note 8, probably subject to opinion. But the two displays are the top of the class for displays.
Forget about the brightness measurements. There are a number of ways to measure figures like that and it can be very misleading.
Subjective reviews by people with the devices in their hands say the display "looks amazing" and "is plenty bright in direct sunlight".
I'll come back on tomorrow night after I've had a few hours with the X, and I will post my impressions. From everything I've read from people who have actually seen the phone, the display blows away the iPhone 7, which has a terrific display of its own. It sure sounds like the display will handily compete with the Note 8 and best it in several respects as well. But whatever. I just expecting it to be great.
Subjective reviews by people with the devices in their hands say the display "looks amazing" and "is plenty bright in direct sunlight".
I'll come back on tomorrow night after I've had a few hours with the X, and I will post my impressions. From everything I've read from people who have actually seen the phone, the display blows away the iPhone 7, which has a terrific display of its own. It sure sounds like the display will handily compete with the Note 8 and best it in several respects as well. But whatever. I just expecting it to be great.
Guess you didn’t actually read the displaymate review and were just wowed by big numbers. Poor you. If you did, you’d see that under more realistic screen states the numbers are pretty close to displaymate. And definitely close enough to give toms the benefit of the doubt that they measureured similar screeen states (similar apl/ environmental light) to compare the two. Bye.
You are joking right? That is just a wild conjecture made by a forumer who just based it on sub-pixel arrangement and deduce ipx panel is better. The article the forumer refered to didnt even mention anything about quality. In fact the article only said the sub-pixel arrangement is from Galaxy S4 screen.
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Why? That's what the (pre) review said (see link) ...maybe too much for you to stomach...
Probably because there is no evidence of any of this being true about it being an S6 equivalent display. The fact that you have now had to resort to finding russian sites to continue to try and crap on the X is just sad.
There is evidence that it's a samsung display and that samsung saves the best screens for themselves. That is enough evidence to consider heavily that it could be worse than the latest note. That's not trying to "crap on the X" it's just fact. Most people have expected for a while that samsung would still have the better display in their own phone. You seem to be upset.
Apple didn't buy an off the shelf samsung display, samsung is just manufacturing it for them.
Also look at his post history all he does is trash the X.
That site i have posted (mobile-review.com) has been around for long time. It once used to have an English version. It was one of the go to site for mobile. The reviewer got lots of insider info. You may not like because of the brick bats it gave to iPhone x but the review does have its merit.
Okay, I have no reason to not believe you. It just doesn't match other reviews. Cleary we aren't talking about a bad display like the Pixel 2 XL, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 8 tested higher universally, but from most accounts it appears to be a terrific display. I have both, and will see my thoughts tomorrow, but it won't be technical like these sites.
Apple custom-designed their own display configuration and contracted with Samsung to build it. I’m sure they also custom-designed the chipset that drives it. Thus is not an off-the-shelf Samsung part.
I don't think the review said the screen is bad. Just that apple is not using the top end screen from Samsung. FYI, s6 already got a great screen.
He even named the generation of the screen apple use using.. unless he is b.s.