iPhone X screen quality?

[jetlitheone]

This is not right, see the below from displaymate concerning the Note 8.

"it can be adjusted to reach a maximum screenBrightness of up to 728 nits, which is impressive"

That’s with auto brightness. I’d put money on he fact that the iPhone has a boost mode in auto brightness as well.

Anyways

I have seen the iPhone X display In person for a decent amount of time and I’ve owned many phone because I test them for work...

I won’t say much but I will say that this phone screen is VERY comparable to the note 8. I like what Apple did as far as aliasing goes because it looks VERY sharp even though the “ppi” isn’t crazy the phone is sharp as hell and it looks GREAT. It was like newspaper print on the display it looked unreal. Made the iPhone 8 beside it look like crap. And that 120hz touch driver was also impressive too for gestures.

 

[upandown]

John Gruber's iPhone X (review unit) has a pink tint. Original tweet: https://twitter.com/gruber/status/925832305880522752

I had hoped that with OLED and True Tone that the bizarre tint variations would stop but I guess not. If I get one of these pink tints, most noticeable during the natural light of sunset, I am sending it back.

I'm also not sure what the point of "True Tone" is if the result is widely different per phone. Which of these two phones below has a "true tone?"

I get what your saying but true tone is dynamic. Id like to see the same picture with it off.

 

[mib1800]

That’s with auto brightness. I’d put money on he fact that the iPhone has a boost mode in auto brightness as well.

No. Think 700+ nits is with adjusting manual brightness. With auto-brightness Note 8 can go up to 1200 nits.

 

[Starfyre]

Nope

I can't tell if your saying that just to say that, or if the iPhone X is in fact better for the screen?

Looking at my friend's Galaxy S8, the biggest thing that caught my eye was the screen, and the beauty of it for looking at photos. If looking at an S8 is "prettier" in screen quality than the iPhone X, it makes me think if I should just go with some other phone then.

 

[upandown]

No. Think 700+ nits is with adjusting manual brightness. With auto-brightness Note 8 can go up to 1200 nits.

Not the whole screen at once. Only small areas at a time

 

[jetlitheone]

No. Think 700+ nits is with adjusting manual brightness. With auto-brightness Note 8 can go up to 1200 nits.

Yeah that barely ever happens. It happens for literally a minute and In very rare use cases where the sun is glaring. Phone will not keep that brightness for more than a couple minutes because it will overheat.

And I’ve seen so many different measuments for the note 8 display it’s not even funny. Every site has a different lux output it seems like.

I’m going off firsthand experience here ,

The note 8 is a very bright phone.

The iPhone X is as well.

Both these devices were brighter than my iPhone 8 Plus which gets plenty bright.

 

[mib1800]

Not the whole screen at once. Only small areas at a time

You know what is OLED? If you are in bright sunlight, those dark area of the screen image will remain dark (unlike LCD which makes dark area grey). But those bright areas will increase in brightness with those individual pixels lit up to 1200nits (if it is displaying white - lesser with other colors) on the Note8. Iphone X OLED has the same characteristics but highest brightness that individual pixels can muster is just 600+ nits .

 

[torana355]

That’s with auto brightness. I’d put money on he fact that the iPhone has a boost mode in auto brightness as well.

Anyways

I have seen the iPhone X display In person for a decent amount of time and I’ve owned many phone because I test them for work...

I won’t say much but I will say that this phone screen is VERY comparable to the note 8. I like what Apple did as far as aliasing goes because it looks VERY sharp even though the “ppi” isn’t crazy the phone is sharp as hell and it looks GREAT. It was like newspaper print on the display it looked unreal. Made the iPhone 8 beside it look like crap. And that 120hz touch driver was also impressive too for gestures.

No with auto brightness it goes over 1000.

 

[jetlitheone]

Okay... Well let me know how often you’ll need to have your screen at 1200 nits

It’s all just a numbers thing just because it can do it doesn’t mean it’s a necessary thing. I don’t really care for it reaching that high.

Also some brightness is lost when the note 8 is set to basic mode which would be a more fair comparison since the X is calibrated very well just like the note 8 is in basic mode.

Other things factor into display view-ability in bright lights such as contrast, screen reflectance and viewing angles...

 

[torana355]

Okay... Well let me know how often you’ll need to have your screen at 1200 nits

It’s all just a numbers thing just because it can do it doesn’t mean it’s a necessary thing. I don’t really care for it reaching that high.

Also some brightness is lost when the note 8 is set to basic mode which would be a more fair comparison since the X is calibrated very well just like the note 8 is in basic mode.

Other things factor into display view-ability in bright lights such as contrast, screen reflectance and viewing angles...

Im not arguing that at all, i totally agree. I just noticed a discrepancy in the figures and pointed it out. Like i've said many times i think the iPhone X screen will be very good.

 

[upandown]

You know what is OLED? If you are in bright sunlight, those dark area of the screen image will remain dark (unlike LCD which makes dark area grey). But those bright areas will increase in brightness with those individual pixels lit up to 1200nits (if it is displaying white - lesser with other colors) on the Note8. Iphone X OLED has the same characteristics but highest brightness that individual pixels can muster is just 600+ nits .

You could say I'm familiar. And you're right. But let's ask the question. How much power can the screen draw if the entire OLED screen needs to light up white or other bright colors?

Answer, the same amount of power as if only 1/8 of the screen is lit up white (at full brightness) and the rest is black.

So what does this mean? The screen with 1/8 lit up (at full brightness) will be substantially brighter than the full screen being lit up as white (At full brightness). Like you said, OLED knowledge.
[doublepost=1509592349][/doublepost]Also don't get wrapped around the axile with these nit numbers. There's more than one way to measure an OLED screen brightness. Different websites do it differently hence the different results. As well as marketing.

Edited for technical correctness.

 

[Hoosier317]

I really don’t care how bright a Samsung Note 8 can get. You’re still left with three things I don’t want:

1. TouchWiz
2. Samsung
3. Android

 

[mib1800]

You could say I'm familiar. And you're right. But let's ask the question. How much power can the screen draw if the entire OLED screen needs to light up white or other bright colors?

Answer, the same amount of power as if only 1/8 of the screen is lit up white and the rest is black.

So what does this mean? The screen with 1/8 lit up will be substantially brighter than the full screen being lit up. Like you said, OLED knowledge.

You are thinking LCD not OLED. With OLED each pixel is powered separately. If the entire screen is white, each of the pixel will be powered up to the max. Using my S8+ in extreme sunlight (on auto-brightness), the battery can drain really fast.

 

[torana355]

You are thinking LCD not OLED. With OLED each pixel is powered separately. If the entire screen is white, each of the pixel will be powered up to the max. Using my S8+ in extreme sunlight (on auto-brightness), the battery can drain really fast.

Actually on LCD the power draw is the same regardless as it uses a unified backlight. Some LED tvs do have a full array backlight which can lower the brightness in different sectors which can save a little power and give better blacks. OLED wont be able to go as bright with a full white screen as is could with half the panels pixels turned on.

 

[upandown]

You are thinking LCD not OLED. With OLED each pixel is powered separately. If the entire screen is white, each of the pixel will be powered up to the max. Using my S8+ in extreme sunlight (on auto-brightness), the battery can drain really fast.

I'm sorry but youre mistaken. It's because each individual pixel is powered separately is what makes me right.
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I really don’t care how bright a Samsung Note 8 can get. You’re still left with three things I don’t want:

1. TouchWiz
2. Samsung
3. Android

Did you read Tom's guide? So saturated! 200% is not a good thing. You literally lose detail in the image because of it. To each their own but I am thankful for Apples approach.

 

[Jetcat3]

This is not right, see the below from displaymate concerning the Note 8.

"it can be adjusted to reach a maximum screenBrightness of up to 728 nits, which is impressive"

The Note8 can hit 1240 nits with auto brightness. There may be a boost with auto brightness on the X, but still though it was interesting that it beats those two displays indoors.

 

[mib1800]

Actually on LCD the power draw is the same regardless as it uses a unified backlight. Some LED tvs do have a full array backlight which can lower the brightness in different sectors which can save a little power and give better blacks. OLED wont be able to go as bright with a full white screen as is could with half the panels pixels turned on.

True. There is phyical limitation to how bright an OLED pixel can go compared to LED light. As we know with LED light source on a LCD panel the brighter the LED light strip lit up, the more washed out the whole screen is. But OLED still retains the contrast so eventhough it is not as bright, the legibility is better.

 

[upandown]

You are thinking LCD not OLED. With OLED each pixel is powered separately. If the entire screen is white, each of the pixel will be powered up to the max. Using my S8+ in extreme sunlight (on auto-brightness), the battery can drain really fast.

Re-read #162. The point I was trying to make is still correct but I left out a few words. Now it's correct correct.

And that explains why an OLED can go brighter with a small area lit over the whole screen. More power can go to fewer pixels so they are brighter.

 

[FFR]

Looks like Tom’s guide added a bit more to their review.

On our lab tests, iPhone X’s display reproduced 128.6 percent of the color gamut, compared to 204.8 percent for the Note 8. The Pixel 2 XL hit 130 percent. But that's not the whole story.

Apple strived to achieve the most realistic colors possible, and that’s borne out by the iPhone X’s Delta-E reading of 0.27. (A score of 0 is perfect.)
With the True Tone on, that was improved to 0.21. That's slightly better than the Pixel 2 XL (0.26) and it beats the Note 8 (0.5).

The iPhone X's screen also gets very bright at 574 nits, which beats the Pixel 2 XL's 438 nits and Note 8's 408 nits. I especially noticed the brightness difference at wider viewing angles when we put the phones side by side.

There's more good news. The iPhone X’s screen (2436 x 1125 pixels) is sharper than the iPhone 8 Plus (1920 x 1080). Apple also includes HDR support for delivering more colors and better contrast in movies — including flicks in iTunes. And there’s TrueTone for automatically adjusting the white balance of the screen based on ambient lighting, which can make reading easier on the eyes.

So toms guide is saying the iPhone X has a brighter oled than the note 8.
574 for the iPhone X vs 408 for the note 8.
They did the tests in their on lab as well.

This is going to piss off a lot of note 8 fanboys.

 

[FFR]

This is not right, see the below from displaymate concerning the Note 8.

"it can be adjusted to reach a maximum screenBrightness of up to 728 nits, which is impressive"

Key word is “adjusted”.
Don’t think it can be maintained for very long.

 

[torana355]

So toms guide is saying the iPhone X has a brighter oled than the note 8.
574 for the iPhone X vs 408 for the note 8.
They did the tests in their on lab as well.

This is going to piss off a lot of note 8 fanboys.

Well its actually incorrect. The Note 8 Can reach 728 nits if adjusted manually (it can stay on that setting for as long as you like) and in Auto brightness mode can hit over 1200 nits (in direct sunlight). The X can hit a Maximum of 650 nits. Regardless I own the S8 and indoors I never have the brightness above 50% as it is more then bright enough at that setting, its outdoors under direct sunlight where the extra brightness is actually needed and the 1000nits it can hit does the job nicely.

 

[FFR]

Well its actually incorrect.

I don’t think so.
Toms review tested it in thier labs.
It seems you don’t like the results, but it would be disingenuous to label it as incorrect.

The Note 8 Can reach 728 nits if adjusted manually and in Auto brightness mode can hit over 1200 nits.

Ok sure.

 

[torana355]

I don’t think so.
Toms review tested it in thier labs.
It seems you don’t like the results, but it would be disingenuous to label it as incorrect.






Ok sure.

Displaymate have tested the Note 8, my figures are 100 percent correct. Im sorry if that upsets you

 

[FFR]

Toms review also state the iPhone X’s display offers better image quality and more contrast within the image when compared to the note 8 and the pixel 2.


“What I mean by that is that the colors weren't as saturated as the hues from the Galaxy Note 8's screen, for example. When I watched the same Wonder Woman trailer on both phones, the greens on the Note 8’s screen popped more.
But then I looked closer, along with my colleague Adam Ismail, and we did some additional side-by-side tests. The iPhone X's screen delivered consistently better image quality across a range of images. For instance, I could easily make out the braid on Wonder Woman's hair, which bot lost on the Note 8 and Pixel 2. In addition, on closer inspection the iPhone X's Super Retina panel offered more contrast between the sky and water.”

 

[FFR]

Displaymate have tested the Note 8, my figures are 100 percent correct. Im sorry if that upsets you

Yes they have and so has toms review.
They tested it in their labs as well.


Perhaps one of Samsung’s update has gimped the brightness on the note 8?

Who knows.



Ok