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The Sprint and Verizon phones have both chips (GSM and CDMA), the AT&T and Telekom phones only have GSM. The majority of the world uses GSM, but some countries only use CDMA. If you travel a lot and want to use local sims while abroad, you better go with a version that allows both.

At least in the US, all phones can/must be unlocked upon your request. However, up until last week (so I learnt in this thread) in order to order one of the phones, you already had to had a contract with on of the carriers. (not for in-store pickup, but, well, stock was and is low...) But, some people are on prepaid and not on contracts.

I ended up reserving mine for pickup as Sprint (with my Sprint account info). I did it on the Apple finance/upgrade plan. But after pickup, took it to AT&T and activated it on their network, using a prepaid plan. And if what u and Apple say is correct... if im unhappy with that plan i can switch to any other carrier...
 
Or the scalpers who bought two for profit is returning their surplus one now that the hype has died off.

Returned items usually never make it into the new-sales pile, but for refurbished. It may have changed, but that's what I knew in the past
 
"Some buy for some kind of status" .... oh the irony.

Does it feel great, does it make you feel superior by belittling people who buy an iPhone X? Because in your opinion they lack common sense and are hence stupid.

Apple was NEVER cheap. I remember times where normal Macbooks would be way past 2k for the entry models.

And yet, at the same time the same people who complain about Apple's pricetag complain about conditions in factories. Hypocrisy much?

I for one am willing to pay more for quality. I for one am willing to pay more so people - including the folks at Apple - can have a living wage. You do know they're not working for free, yup? (and yes, no need to point it out, I'm well aware that Apple isn't great in terms of their factories/cheap labor).

Being stingy is not cool.

And besides, maybe people should stop wanting everything there and now. Get a feel for value. Have to save. Keep things for any number of time (why do you NEED to update every year?)

At the end of the day, it's every persons very personal business how they spend their money. Don't want to spend that much? Great, go spend it on something else. Want it but can't afford it? Stop being envoys and sour and start saving.

I do not need to list which Apple products I own to justify my post. I never once mentioned about the costing of computers, tablets, headphones etc I believe the pricing for those are reasonable...I just don’t agree with the phone...

So I am not sure what was the point of writing all of that? I am sorry but your argument was weak. I think I will purchase a parrot because I will not keep on repeating...
 
If demand weren’t strong, Apple wouldn’t have provided guidance for a record breaking Oct-Dec quarter, would they? $84-87 Billion. Amazing, isn’t it?

No matter how bad you want Apple to fail, the X is a huge hit, and Apple stock is only around a dollar short of its all time high :)

And, hoping for others to fail is bad karma, don’t you think? And maybe kind of a waste of time and effort?

Could be time for a new hobby.

Guidance is not based solely on iPhone revenue. You knew that right? Apple's Services Sector is driving the increased guidance for Q1. :apple:
 
from a customer point of view it would be great to see it flopping considering the price. vote with the wallet may be a great idea
It’s a fantastic phone. I love it! The extra price does stink, but I think it’s worth it. Don’t know why it shouldn’t do well.
 
Buy the Verizon model, it has the Qualcomm chip and it’s unlocked.

Im so confused on the Qualcomm issue. Since first reading about it... ive read a number of articles and they are split about which is better. Some say the Intel is 10% faster on some networks.
 
Or the scalpers who bought two for profit is returning their surplus one now that the hype has died off.

No worries. Apple will manufacture and sell greater than 200 million iPhones this year (more than a half million iPhones per day). It's all good...
 
remember when everyone said you'd be lucky if you got one this year?

pepperridge farms remembers
 
This is excellent news. I hope next year it’s even more to deter people from buying one. Makes my chances of getting it on launch day even better. $1500 on the iPhone X 6.5”.....I spend that in aftershave.

You must have dazzling beard growth. I'm imagining Playdoh barbershop-like hair growth...


Or very exclusive sources of Aftershave.

Or maybe you are Aftershave purchasing officer for some troop or small retail chain?

;)
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remember when everyone said you'd be lucky if you got one this year? pepperridge farms remembers

Only for now. Next fall, almost everyone falls for some scarcity spin yet again. It's been the same every single year for 10 years. If it ain't broke...
 
I do not need to list which Apple products I own to justify my post. I never once mentioned about the costing of computers, tablets, headphones etc I believe the pricing for those are reasonable...I just don’t agree with the phone...

So I am not sure what was the point of writing all of that? I am sorry but your argument was weak. I think I will purchase a parrot because I will not keep on repeating...

Dude, what's your problem?

Ok, so you personally think the iPhone X is overpriced. Guess what, it's a premium version. There are cheaper iPhone versions out there.

I personally know folks who think Macbooks, iMacs, iPads etc. are way overpriced as they are - which you think are reasonably priced. See a pattern? Very very personal opinion. What one person thinks is cheap or expensive, another doesn't agree on.
 
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Apple just needed to get Foxconn to lift their game so Foxconn can get those kindy kids working 12hr days.
 
Walked into an apple store in NYC yesterday. Said they had no stock in the whole city...

Mine is being prep'd to ship at the end of this week and delivery early next week. So tired of this burner android phone ...


Same - - - I bought the Moto E4 at Target while I'm waiting for mine to arrive. Been calling it my burner also :D
 
Im so confused on the Qualcomm issue. Since first reading about it... ive read a number of articles and they are split about which is better. Some say the Intel is 10% faster on some networks.

As you referring to the X model? BecAuse the 7 has differences up to about 30% in range and speed in favor of Qualcomm.
 
from a customer point of view it would be great to see it flopping considering the price. vote with the wallet may be a great idea

You get what you pay for, and there are plenty of less expensive options to match the lower price point.
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I somewhat agree. I got an 8+, as I refuse to settle for a notch and lack of Touch ID. If this is the future of Apple, I’m “all-out”.

Doubtful. You’ll try it and end up realizing it’s just fine.
 
I ordered a silver 256 GB and a gray 256 GB iPhone X on 05 Nov. Both still have deliveries of 06-13 Dec. I keep reading about production times decreasing (now down to 1-2 weeks) and thought mine would get pushed up... not so.

Nevermind, I just got an email that it shipped. Deliver 30 Nov. I just looked earlier today and it was still in the processing stage instead of preparing for shipment. Looks like I'll get it about a week early. :)
 
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MacRumors in a nutshell:

1) Shipping has improved = iPhone is a flop. Price is too high is the reason it's flopping.

2) iPhone X shipping is 3-5 months = I thought Tim Cook was supposed to be the supply chain leader; Apple should have known demand would be high.

I swear you can't please anyone around here.

People wouldn't do this if Apple released sales figures on their products.
 
Guidance is not based solely on iPhone revenue. You knew that right? Apple's Services Sector is driving the increased guidance for Q1. :apple:
Some of it, but iPhone drives most of their overall revenue. They are expecting the iPhone X to be a hit.
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Precisely. Shipping times are NOT decreasing from increased production. Wait for the actual numbers. The 8 Plus will surpass the X for Q1. :apple:

Apple won’t release a breakout (they never do) and since they have similar price points it will be difficult to make out the mix from the average selling price for the quarter.
 
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You are aware that any device through a carrier is never "free", right?



You do have different versions ... I'd rather not take chances. Yes, they're unlocked (and if not, you can just have them unlocked, at least in the US), but the internal hardware is different between the different models. My European GSM model wouldn't work on Verizon, for example...

Of course, but I want to switch carriers anyway so its mostly free. Last March free iphone from Tmobile for switching...
 
How long before we get news: "Apple cuts supply chain item xxx for next quarter for iPhone X"?

Can't be more than a week or two before supply > demand. Next Day Delivery.

Heck, we've sent you one and you can return it if you don't like it. Or take $50 off if you choose to keep it. And 12 months Apple Music for free.

This isn't a failure. But maybe people weren't ready for a smaller phone with less screen real estate. Or that ugly notch. It's a whole 7mm narrower screen than a 6s+. Easier to hold. Less usable space. Even if marketing-wise it's a bigger screen. Stretching it wasn't the solution we wanted. Not sure if the rounded corners were either.

And couldn't they find room on the side for a Home button (without Touch ID)? Sometimes devices just need to be usable. I'm all for change but it has to make sense. When they went from multiple finger ID to single FaceID, that seems like a a backward step. Now two users in one house can't unlock the phone without one having to use Passcode. You'd think in a phone with 256G they could find room for a little more biometric data. I still think you should be able to tailor the screens based on which finger or face the device recognises. That would be a usability improvement: index finger for email, internet, work stuff; thumb for entertainment stuff etc. Wasn't the future of web apps/pages and devices about tailoring experiences to users?

XS+ must be coming next year to address the screen size issue. Perhaps at $999 starting price again. ;)
 
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1 - 2 weeks still takes orders into the first week of December meaning they probably will not have full retail availability for Christmas. I absolutely love my iPhone X, favorite iPhone I’ve had.

I remain bullish on this for Apple.
 
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