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iPhone X: Using Apple Pay With Face ID

After about week or so, I didn't mind not having the home button anymore.

Becoming adjusted to FaceID and a new way wasn't as bad as some reports made it out to be.
 
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I used Apple Pay on the X a few minutes ago. Glad I did as I had the wrong card set as default.

Overall I’m not sure the use of Face ID is not an issue for me.
Still my default it the watch
 
Rigby said:
Uhm, you can "pre authenticate" with Touch ID too in pretty much the same way (just using the home- instead of the side-button). But you also have the option to simply hold the phone to the reader without doing anything, which is what I do 99% of the time.
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I used to just hold my iPhone to the reader. Then I figured out it was causing the delay on some terminals not authorizing right away (my Watch never has a delay), which required me to hold my phone longer than usual or in some cases lift and retry.

After trial and error I found out pre-authenticating is actually faster at the terminal since I never get the delay. So if I don’t have my Watch with me I pre-authenticate with my iPhone. So FaceID or TouchID would both be as fast for me.
 
Being able to preauthenticate makes the whole process faster for me. I hate having touchID fail on me when there’s an impatient lineup behind me.

Also with TouchID there has been many times where you’re having to move the phone around trying to get it to register, whereas FaceID it reads the machine much faster.
 
On a slightly different topic, but still ApplePay related....

I was surprised with iOS 11 that when I restored my previous phone to my new iPhone X, it knew all of my cards that I had in ApplePay on my other phone and re-set them up in ApplePay on the new phone just by entering the CVV # for confirmation.

I thought Apple had said that they don't store the actual credit card number on our phones after the initial set up. That was part of the security pitch. If this is true, then how was my account information backed up so that I could restore cards with just the CVV # ?

I think that when I've done previous restores, I had to completely rescan every card to reload it into ApplePay. The watch was the same once I re-paired it with my new phone. Was this an iOS 11 update? How does Apple store this info?
 
johnediii said:
Pulling the phone out of my pocket, double clicking a button, holding it up to my face, then back down to the reader seems a lot more inconvenient that pulling the phone out of my pocket with my thumb already on the Home button for TouchID and moving it straight to the reader. This has worked flawlessly for me since my first TouchID enabled iPhone. I suppose we all have to get used to it after this year, though. Unless of course Apple pays attention and quits with this trying to force us into gimmicky tech that is not as convenient to use. But why should we expect Apple to change now, they've been doing this for decades.
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Holding it to your face is not a separate/necessary step. When you double click you are usually looking at your phone in a normal manner/distance. In about .5 seconds (or less) it authenticates after you double click. So its really not an extra step, maybe a slight pause. And you don't need to move it up to your nose. You hold it naturally (no one knows you are doing a face ID, it simply looks like you are glancing down at your phone). So you are looking DOWN at the phone, which is basically at your waist level. Then you move the phone several inches to the reader - bang - its done.

So hold phone in left hand normally and casually, while you are looking DOWN at it, not bringing it up to your face (you maybe tilt the phone slightly in the direction of your face, you don't move your whole ARM up to your face). Doubleclick, pause a milli-tick, move hand forward a few inches to hold near reader. Its simple, quick and easier than the old way.
 
supertomtom said:
Being able to preauthenticate makes the whole process faster for me. I hate having touchID fail on me when there’s an impatient lineup behind me.

Also with TouchID there has been many times where you’re having to move the phone around trying to get it to register, whereas FaceID it reads the machine much faster.
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Exactly what I experienced. The only reason I noticed is when I got my Apple Watch and never had nearly as many false “taps” as I did with my iPhone.

I think when you pre-authenticate the NFC circuit is active and ready immediately to transfer your data to the terminal. Using the method of holding your phone to the terminal with a finger on TouchID requires that your iPhone “sense” that you’re making a payment by noticing the NFC signal from the terminal. Then it has to verify using TouchID and finally transfer data to complete the transaction. I’m convinced this method causes timing delays/issues when talking to the terminal which in turn causes delays or requires you to retap your phone.
 
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Paid for gas today at WaWa with the X. Was so flawless that I thought it didn’t work. Seemed to be much quicker than TouchID
 
I regularly visit Finland and my ApplePay has worked in most terminals there for the past year or so. To the amazement of the till staff I might add who sometimes seem puzzled as to why i am pointing my phone at the card reader.
I also tried in Japan....To no joy eventhough my UK contactless cards worked just fine. But i then heard that they use different system in the Japanese iPhones. Why they can't use the same standard I could not figure out!

BruiserB said:
I was on vacation in Stockholm and Helsinki the week that ApplePay went live there. Both Sweden and Finland have used contactless for years and almost every place I went was equipped with the NFC readers. I quickly learned to not ask about ApplePay...since it was so new, they hadn't really heard of it. When I did ask I even had a few say they didn't take it. But if I said "contactless" they knew exactly what to do on the register and were surprised to see me use my phone (and especially amazed if I used my watch).

They have had the opposite problem as we have in the States. All of their retailers are "contactless" ready, but until recently none of their banks allowed cards to be loaded into ApplePay. Here almost every bank lets us load our cards, but not enough places accept it. Although I have seen more and more places coming on board in the last few months.
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Time to start taking advantage of all these iPhone X users pre-authenticating their credit cards with Apple Pay ;)

Just kidding.

But for me with touchID it's super convenient. As been said before I just pull out my phone from my pocket with my thumb already on the scanner and put it on the terminal.

No extra step of "pre-authenticating", double tapping of a button or having to look at the phone. :-/
 
I use it constantly and it works seamless. To complain that it takes you a second longer than a fingerprint (I would argue that) instead of pulling out your wallet to insert the chip or cash is a dream for me
 
On one hand, Touch ID would occasionally not read my fingerprint and force me to lift my finger and reattempt which made the user look dumber. On the other hand, Face ID takes the a second longer to athenticate, but I can authenticate before I even bring my phone to the card scanner. Once authenticated it works 100% of the time. Much better experience in my opinion.
 
BlueCreek said:
I don’t find myself using Apple Pay anymore with my iPhone X, it just seems less convenient, also Face ID fails more often than Touch ID.
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Would it help if you re enroll faceID to make it more accurate?
 
I haven’t put my card in my iPhone X yet but it seems to me like you would be able to place the phone on the reader and look at it and have it approve you. I don’t see the need to “bring it back up to your face” to authenticate Face ID.
 
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Is there a way to use Apple Pay on the X without double press the side button?
Like open the Wallet app and touch the card for launch Face ID ?
Or just bring the device near the reader ?
Thanks for your answers :)
 
supertomtom said:
Being able to preauthenticate makes the whole process faster for me. I hate having touchID fail on me when there’s an impatient lineup behind me.

Also with TouchID there has been many times where you’re having to move the phone around trying to get it to register, whereas FaceID it reads the machine much faster.
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Funny how different the experiences are. I can't remember any instance where just holding the phone to the reader with my thumb on the home button didn't work flawlessly, and the delay from reading the fingerprint is barely noticeable. As far as I am concerned, Apple got this down pretty much perfectly the first time. It doesn't get any easier. I only use the "pre-authentication" when I want to select a different credit card for paying than the default card.
 
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