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Funny how different the experiences are. I can't remember any instance where just holding the phone to the reader with my thumb on the home button didn't work flawlessly, and the delay from reading the fingerprint is barely noticeable. As far as I am concerned, Apple got this down pretty much perfectly the first time. It doesn't get any easier. I only use the "pre-authentication" when I want to select a different credit card for paying than the default card.
I hope it's just as quick. Apple Pay with Touch ID is super quick ... almost instant. I never had any issues with it. When I was on the Pixel 2 for a bit and using Android Pay, I just stood there looking like a jack ass for a good 10 seconds before Android Pay finally kicked in and worked.
 
Super handy that you can "pre-authenticate" before the cashier rings it up on the terminal; makes the process way smoother...
And more natural. All you have to do is present the device rather than make sure your thumb is on the sensor while you present it.
 
Used APay at Trader Joe’s yesterday. Their machine wanted me to select “debit” or “credit” and enter my pin. Wth?
 
Used APay at Trader Joe’s yesterday. Their machine wanted me to select “debit” or “credit” and enter my pin. Wth?
I hate when stores ask me to do extra crap, which ends up not saving me any time whatsoever. DTP.
 
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I gave up on Apple Pay all together because stores either never activated the nfc or the employees were clueless how it worked.
The employees don't need to know how it works. For them it's like a regular credit card.

All you have to do is tell them you're paying by credit and it look for the wireless/NFC symbol and try it.
 
I gave up on Apple Pay all together because stores either never activated the nfc or the employees were clueless how it worked.

Frankly, I wonder why I still try Apple Pay considering all these issues. (I went on a huge Twitter rant about this recently so I won't re-post the exact reasons here.)

They have had the opposite problem as we have in the States. All of their retailers are "contactless" ready, but until recently none of their banks allowed cards to be loaded into ApplePay. Here almost every bank lets us load our cards, but not enough places accept it. Although I have seen more and more places coming on board in the last few months.

I feel like Apple Pay was introduced to the US maybe 5-10 years too soon. We likely should have finished rolling out EMV, only used the chip for a while and then tried to introduce contactless.

Then again, considering how many merchants absolutely hate cards altogether, I suspect nearly all of them would have purchased terminals without NFC hardware had Apple Pay not existed--resulting in some of the same issues that caused contactless to flop the first time around.

Used APay at Trader Joe’s yesterday. Their machine wanted me to select “debit” or “credit” and enter my pin. Wth?

Trader Joe's (and way too many other US stores) are using an older contactless standard that basically makes the terminal go through the same workflow as swiping. I'd say it'll get better but I have doubts it'll be any time soon.
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The employees don't need to know how it works. For them it's like a regular credit card.

All you have to do is tell them you're paying by credit and it look for the wireless/NFC symbol and try it.

Yeah, good luck with that. A fair number of cashiers think Apple Pay and cards are different and won't activate the terminal for the former without enough of a discussion where inserting would have been faster.
 
Yeah, good luck with that. A fair number of cashiers think Apple Pay and cards are different and won't activate the terminal for the former without enough of a discussion where inserting would have been faster.
You're missing the point. They don't need to know anything and it doesn't matter what they think. If they ask, "how are you paying?", you say, "credit card". That's it. End of discussion. Not that difficult.
 
me too. I use the watch for almost everything. will continue. Its much easier than the X.

Also, since I got the watch I rarely carry the X

I just wish AW3 cellular was supported by mobile operators in my country. That would be a dream. Step out of my home without wallet and phone. Just AW and Airpods.
 
Funny how different the experiences are. I can't remember any instance where just holding the phone to the reader with my thumb on the home button didn't work flawlessly, and the delay from reading the fingerprint is barely noticeable. As far as I am concerned, Apple got this down pretty much perfectly the first time. It doesn't get any easier. I only use the "pre-authentication" when I want to select a different credit card for paying than the default card.


TouchID works 95% of the time for me. Every machine in every store here in Australia works with Apple Pay so I use it many times each day. Sometimes it’s the sweaty hands from the weather or just an older machine with a weaker reader that frustrates the experience. Or sometimes there are machines where the sensor is at an odd angle (like on the side) which makes using touchID a bit tricky. But most of the time it works quite well I must admit.

But with FaceID, the whole process is basically faultless now. And works for me 100% of the time.
 
You're missing the point. They don't need to know anything and it doesn't matter what they think. If they ask, "how are you paying?", you say, "credit card". That's it. End of discussion. Not that difficult.

In theory. But as someone who didn't bother using AP at one merchant today because the PIN pad was on the cashier's side of the counter (and thus difficult to impossible to access for customers) and who had to push the button on another's Square app to activate the contactless reader because the employee/owner didn't do so, reality is definitely not like that.

Oh, and those instances weren't the first times I've encountered issues, either.
 
I just wish AW3 cellular was supported by mobile operators in my country. That would be a dream. Step out of my home without wallet and phone. Just AW and Airpods.

You don’t need a cellular connection to use Apple Pay on your watch. I have a series 2 and had forgotten my phone/wallet on a few occasions. Paid with my watch. :)
 
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On a slightly different topic, but still ApplePay related....

I was surprised with iOS 11 that when I restored my previous phone to my new iPhone X, it knew all of my cards that I had in ApplePay on my other phone and re-set them up in ApplePay on the new phone just by entering the CVV # for confirmation.

I thought Apple had said that they don't store the actual credit card number on our phones after the initial set up. That was part of the security pitch. If this is true, then how was my account information backed up so that I could restore cards with just the CVV # ?

I think that when I've done previous restores, I had to completely rescan every card to reload it into ApplePay. The watch was the same once I re-paired it with my new phone. Was this an iOS 11 update? How does Apple store this info?

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203027

Apple doesn’t store or have access to the credit, debit, or prepaid card numbers you added to Apple Pay. Apple Pay only stores a portion of your actual card numbers and a portion of your Device Account Numbers, along with a card description, to help you manage your cards and add your cards across your devices.
 
I've used touch ID and face ID and I definitely think Face ID is slower (not a lot, but an annoying little bit) and more cumbersome.

I had it down with touch ID. Pulled the phone out of my pocked with my thumb already on the home button. Never had it fail.
 
You don’t need a cellular connection to use Apple Pay on your watch. I have a series 2 and had forgotten my phone/wallet on a few occasions. Paid with my watch. :)

I was thinking about voice calls and streaming on my AW... I know about Apple Pay, i am using it on my AW without iPhone being nearby. :)
 
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I gave up on Apple Pay all together because stores either never activated the nfc or the employees were clueless how it worked.

Most employees in most stores barely know how to operate the register as a whole. Most of the time when I try to use Apple Pay they've done something that makes the reader unresponsive for everything and don't know what they did or how they did it.
 
For me, using the X has meant learning to not holding my phone next to the reader to initiate the Apple Pay process. If you do, it adds an extra step. As others have said, if you pre-authenticate first, it is much soother and can be done before hand, which I think is much more helpful.

Is there a way to use Apple Pay on the X without double press the side button?
Like open the Wallet app and touch the card to launch Face ID ?
Or just bring the device near the reader ?
Thanks for your answer :)

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I’ve been using Apple Pay more with my x than I did with my other devices. It helps that the grocery store I frequent finally activated Apple Pay.

I do feel it’s teally fast. It’s faster than pulling out a card now, although I’m unsure why there isn’t a similar ore authentication option with Touch ID.

I do find myself choosing Apple oh over an actual card though, which really wasn’t the case before this. The only place I still pull out my card is Costco and target.
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Is there a way to use Apple Pay on the X without double press the side button?
Like open the Wallet app and touch the card to launch Face ID ?
Or just bring the device near the reader ?
Thanks for your answer :)

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Brnging it near the reader still prompts double press. I’ve not tried just using wallet but I imagine this is a safety precaution anyway. You need to Elko it a physical response because your face is now the final authentication step (and presumably you’re looking at the device during all this time).
 
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Any debit/credit reader that has NFC capabilities should allow you to use it whether the cashiers know what's going on or not. I don't even bother to ask if I can use Apple pay. If I see the NFC logo on the reader, I just tell the cashier that I'm paying by debit, and then I use my phone. Most aren't surprised anymore but when Apple Pay was first introduced here in Canada I got more than a few "How did you do that?" reactions from cashiers.

Should being the operative word.
 
On behalf of all Londoners - please don’t try doing this on the underground.
I use it everyday, never get held up. Usually some idiot in front with a ticket or debit card that is holding the queue up, or an Oyster card they’ve forgotten to top up.
 
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