Yeah, still faster than cash (when you need change), cheque, chip & pin or swipe and sign.
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iPhone X: Using Apple Pay With Face ID
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Yeah, still faster than cash (when you need change), cheque, chip & pin or swipe and sign.
That's too boring!! Please confirm payment with Face ID. It takes courage but it will be exciting!!
If FaceID is quick and doesn't get confused then it might be an identical experience to how I use TouchID to pay now.
My TouchID routine now is...
1 - Reach into my pocket and double-click the home button to activate wallet and pre-authenticate my default card.
2 - Pull the phone out of my pocket and glance briefly at the screen to check that I didn't mess up the double-click and that it is displaying my default card and the pay-with-TouchID logo displayed in grey meaning it is ready to pay.
3 - Tap my phone on the NFC reader to complete the transaction. I'm grabbing the phone securely at this point and not needing to have a finger on the home button.
With FaceID that routine (I hope) becomes...
1 - Reach into my pocket and double-click the power button to activate wallet with my default card.
2 - Pull the phone out of my pocket and glance briefly at the screen to check that I didn't mess up the double-click. Hopefully now this brief glance will do the FaceID pre-authorisation for my default card.
3 - Tap my phone on the NFC reader to complete the transaction. I'm grabbing the phone securely at this point and not needing to have a finger on the home button.
The key things for me will be whether FaceID can authenticate me in the time and at the angle I use when glancing at the screen in step 2 and also whether it will get confused by my double-clicking the power button while the phone is in my pocket so that, by the time I glance at it, it has too many failed FaceID attempts and goes to the PIN unlock screen. If it's OK with all that then I should see no difference whatsoever in my use.
Obviously if it isn't OK with it then I need to adjust my routine which would be a shame because I feel that my phone is much safer when in a crowded place like the London tube system if I can do the double click with the phone still in my pocket because then when I take it out on my pocket I can do so in a firm full-hand grasp without needing to worry about having fingers on any of the buttons. It makes me less likely to drop it or for someone to jostle me and accidentally knock it out of my hand.
Anyone with an iPhone X tried my routine?
My TouchID routine now is...
1 - Reach into my pocket and double-click the home button to activate wallet and pre-authenticate my default card.
2 - Pull the phone out of my pocket and glance briefly at the screen to check that I didn't mess up the double-click and that it is displaying my default card and the pay-with-TouchID logo displayed in grey meaning it is ready to pay.
3 - Tap my phone on the NFC reader to complete the transaction. I'm grabbing the phone securely at this point and not needing to have a finger on the home button.
With FaceID that routine (I hope) becomes...
1 - Reach into my pocket and double-click the power button to activate wallet with my default card.
2 - Pull the phone out of my pocket and glance briefly at the screen to check that I didn't mess up the double-click. Hopefully now this brief glance will do the FaceID pre-authorisation for my default card.
3 - Tap my phone on the NFC reader to complete the transaction. I'm grabbing the phone securely at this point and not needing to have a finger on the home button.
The key things for me will be whether FaceID can authenticate me in the time and at the angle I use when glancing at the screen in step 2 and also whether it will get confused by my double-clicking the power button while the phone is in my pocket so that, by the time I glance at it, it has too many failed FaceID attempts and goes to the PIN unlock screen. If it's OK with all that then I should see no difference whatsoever in my use.
Obviously if it isn't OK with it then I need to adjust my routine which would be a shame because I feel that my phone is much safer when in a crowded place like the London tube system if I can do the double click with the phone still in my pocket because then when I take it out on my pocket I can do so in a firm full-hand grasp without needing to worry about having fingers on any of the buttons. It makes me less likely to drop it or for someone to jostle me and accidentally knock it out of my hand.
Anyone with an iPhone X tried my routine?
No, it won't stop working on old iPhones, but they're no longer going to include it on newer models. So unless you plan on keeping your old iPhone forever or changing to Android, you'll need to embrace Face ID.
It’s much quicker than the TouchID. The delay which stopped me using ApplePay on the tube is gone now, also holding the Plus phones at that angle and having the thumb on the button was always precarious.
Source: Waterloo station
I got it from the very post I was responding to. You responded to my response but seem to have missed the OP quote:
See?
It brings up the double click prompt if you hold it near the reader without first authenticating.
thanks. But then what - you pull it away from the reader to authenticate and then I suppose you have to place it back again, otherwise the reader won't know whats going on?
I think it works fine, always recognises me, pre-authentication works great etc.. The only way
I could see it improving is that if you have just unlocked your phone with Face ID and then double click the side button to action Apple Pay it didn't ask for another authentication (you have just authenticated Face ID not long ago). I'm not sure if there is some sort of legislation that requires a fresh authentication upon an Apple Pay request though.
I could see it improving is that if you have just unlocked your phone with Face ID and then double click the side button to action Apple Pay it didn't ask for another authentication (you have just authenticated Face ID not long ago). I'm not sure if there is some sort of legislation that requires a fresh authentication upon an Apple Pay request though.
Yes. You have to authenticate first, then hold near reader. So you should always just doubleclick/glance at phone, then hold to reader - ping - its done.
And if you open Wallet first, do you need to double click or can you authenticate just by touching the card like with Touch ID ?
Yes, you need to doubleclick -- which you can do from any screen (home, lock, apps, anytime, anywhere). So no need to go to Wallet first. Opening wallet just shows you your cards, it does not authenticate.
Thanks. I'm looking for a way to avoid double clicking but it seems that's impossible.
Yup. That's exactly the use case I was describing a few posts back but you could also do that with TouchID. I specifically did it my way for exactly the reason you mention, the other alternative of holding the phone with your finger on the TouchID button is too precarious but it isn't necessary and never was.
Do you double-click the power button with the phone still in your pocket or do you get the phone out before you double click? With TouchID I really like the fact that I can do the button presses with it in my pocket so that when I pull it out I can hold it in the way that makes it most secure without having to worry about having any fingers free to press any more buttons.
Waterloo Station is also my worst-case test location by the way since I am on a line that goes into Waterloo.
It works the same as using a regular credit card. Just tell them that if they don’t know.
You can doubleclick while its in your pocket -- your choice. You still need to glance at it to face ID authenticate. I don't think doubleclicking in the pocket really saves any significant time.
Not true. With Touch ID, double click the home button with a registered finger, and the phone is ready to scan without a finger on Touch ID for about a minute.
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Great article MacRumors. I don’t have an X yet, but it is nice to see the Apple Pay in action. Especially since all the naysayers on here have been predicting a horrible purchase experience. As long as FaceID works, this Will be as fast as TouchID.
but then you could pre-authenticate with TouchID too? However you look at it, FaceID seems at best the same, and at worst slightly less flexible?
Edit - I mean specifically for Apple Pay. For other aspects I find it overall an improvement over touchID
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I stopped using it also. It is not as straightforward as Touch ID. Today I was in London on business and used Apple Pay on my iPhone X and every time I try it failed. I did manage to pay with it after a few tries but that has never happened with Touch ID.
Disappointed to say the least. There has to be a better way to implement this. The easiest way I found to get it to work first time is by authenticating before you put it next to the terminal.
Double tap the side button and let it scan your face and then put it next to the terminal.
Touch ID was just one step instead of three steps.
Disappointed to say the least. There has to be a better way to implement this. The easiest way I found to get it to work first time is by authenticating before you put it next to the terminal.
Double tap the side button and let it scan your face and then put it next to the terminal.
Touch ID was just one step instead of three steps.
Umm, that's how it is supposed to work (the ONLY way it works). Step 1 (double-click while glancing at phone; which happens to authenticate at the same time -- maybe pause a tick to let it authenticate); Step 2, hold next to terminal.
Done!
Sorry, with touch unlock by the time I pull the phone out of my pocket and my thumb brushes the touch sensor I just need to tap and done, I don't even look at the screen because it makes a success tone if it worked. This is on Android where I don't even need to fire up the Android Pay app. I still don't see how Face ID is "just the same as" either the Apple Pay or Android Pay mechanisms using touch unlock, this seems like an article full of contrived denial of a more convoluted process by a fanboi.
Sure, people will get used to the Face ID process, people will also get used to $1500 cellphones eventually, but the process adds more time and more steps involved then need be for the sake of Apple touting a feature not one single iPhone user has ever requested and solves a problem that never existed. Getting used to something eventually does not mean it was something good to implement in the first place and having any kind of a learning curve is usually the antithesis of what good industrial designers try to accomplish.
Face ID for retail payments is simply a regression in good UX and everybody knows it except all tech bloggers falling over themselves trying to make it sound like its an improvement, or at least comparable to touch id experiences.
Sure, people will get used to the Face ID process, people will also get used to $1500 cellphones eventually, but the process adds more time and more steps involved then need be for the sake of Apple touting a feature not one single iPhone user has ever requested and solves a problem that never existed. Getting used to something eventually does not mean it was something good to implement in the first place and having any kind of a learning curve is usually the antithesis of what good industrial designers try to accomplish.
Face ID for retail payments is simply a regression in good UX and everybody knows it except all tech bloggers falling over themselves trying to make it sound like its an improvement, or at least comparable to touch id experiences.