iPhone XR Could Account for Over Half of New iPhone Sales in Second Half of 2018

[Narcaz]

Ya think? Genius prediction given the prohibitive pricing on the XS models...

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Faced with an unclear upgrade path, 6/S/7 Plus owners could decide to wait another year instead of buying the Xr with a lower display ppi and lack of dual camera/ 3D Touch. The clear successor in form of the XS Max won't be an option due to increased price. Apple is pushing too hard on price elasticity with the XS Max. It almost feels like they abandoned the european mass market.

 

[69Mustang]

The Xr has the same PPI as the 8 Plus and much better battery life (which was already good on the 8 Plus).

I think @GrumpyMom is referencing the 1080p screen of the 8+ vs the 820p of the R.

 

[iName]

Don’t let the shiny gold X fool you, this will be the BEST selling iPhone in years. With those “fun” colors and massive screen, the average consumer won’t be concerned with ppi and other specs that differentiate it from the flagship models. Not to mention a $250 price difference!

 

[martin2345uk]

Agreed, most people I believe will walk into an Apple store, see these lined up in their day-glo colours, see the “comparatively” lower price and buy. They won’t check PPI against other models.

 

[RightMACatU]

But as I get older I’m becoming more smart with my money. $1700 in Canada for the Xs Max because it has OLED and a better camera is just stupid.

Yeah! And make that C$2000+tx for the 512GB Max - No thanks.

 

[G3Blue]

Why’s no one talking about the aspect ratio of the screens of the X, Xr, Xs and Xs max? Still too narrow compared to the 8 and 8 plus! Watching videos in landscape is rubbish on the X, feels like I’m viewing through a letterbox.

 

[Gudd]

Ditto. Starting to think this could be the slow unwinding of my tech relationship with Apple. I’m waiting to see what Google offers in the pixel line this year and will go from there.

It's software (MacOS) that keeps my relationship with Apple going, not their high prices for sure! I couldn't bring myself to buy an X last time round and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bring myself to buy the XS this time round. The XR is stunning in red, if only it wasn't 6.1"

 

[one more]

Coming from the SE (which I'm forced to at this point) it has everything I want besides the size but I guess it's inevitable to get the latest and greatest. Never had 3D touch with the same PPI I don't feel like I'm losing much in upgrading.

You are not losing anything by upgrading except your money. Or you could simply happily run your SE for another year. The whole “latest and greatest” thing is very subjective and all the existing 64bit iPhones run the same iOS 12.

 

[matjamca]

Does anyone know how the screen size of the XR compares with the iPhone 8 Plus in terms of width and height rather than diagonally?

 

[lyricthejoe]

It’ll be interesting to see what its’ resale value is come next year

 

[tito2020]

720p display for $750?

Trillion dollar company and that is what they come out with? geez

 

[recoil80]

Xr is going to be the best selling model, then Xs Max and then Xs. I bet many people don't care about the LCD instead of the OLED, they'll love having the new design with edge-to-edge display and they'll get the fake portrait effect even with a single camera.
The price difference of $250 is a clever strategy to sell more Xr in my opinion, because the Xr looks "cheap" in comparison and many people who didn't buy X last year because of the price will be willing to pay a price between the 8 and the 8+ for a brand new model.
I'm more interested in the Xs, but I don't know if I'll be willing to pay that difference just to have an OLED instead of an LCD. I know is better, but it it so much better to justify the price? Not sure about that. I'm tired of the big phones so Xs Max is out of the equation, besides it is really to expensive

 

[TimUSCA]

The biggest incentive for people to “upgrade” this round will be iOS 12 when it fails to be responsive and stable on previous models.

At this juncture, a true innovation in smartphones will be OS abilities. Don’t ignore the fact that the new phones still come with the same Siri.

Nice colors? Bezelless screen? You can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig.

Except iOS 12 has been running amazingly well on older devices. So your logic kind of falls apart there. Furthermore, you're saying real innovation comes at the OS level, yet you're complaining about it making old devices run slow. You can't have both unless you scrap big features from old devices, but something tells me you'd complain about that too.
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Trillion dollar company and that is what they come out with? geez

People really need to stop connecting their products with the fact that they're a trillion dollar company. It doesn't matter how much money they have in the bank - profit margins are still a thing and will continue to be a thing forever. They're not a charity.

I think it's overpriced too. So you know what I'll do? Not buy it. But that doesn't mean I don't understand why they priced it that way.

 

[Kabeyun]

This is the only serious contender to the Max. Putting the same core camera and A12 chip makes buying the XS madness.

The Max, on the other hand... now that’s a thing of beauty.

XS has a better camera, double the RAM, and, arguably a better screen. Agree there’s overlap, but it’s not hard to imagine that people who want/need these features will be drawn to the XS over the XR. Not madness but preference or use case. Personally I think it’s absurd to build a phone approaching the size of an iPad Mini, but I’m not prepared to call it madness. Madness, imo, is Apple still offering the 7 (or the 8, pick one).

 

[PBG4 Dude]

Learnt some lessons from the 5C catastrophe

Indeed. Instead of the 5C(heap) model, this is the iPhone XR(educed feature set) model.

 

[nfl46]

I'd be picking up a Product Red iPhone XR. It was between this and a used X, but I'd prefer the bigger screen as I watch a lot of YouTube videos.

 

[one more]

With the XR release, the way I see it, Apple are trying to invite more upgrades from 6S, 7 and 8 users.

However, somebody who really wanted a bigger screen, are probably using their Pluses anyway which all run iOS 12 rather well. So what are the biggest selling punt of XR, really? Face ID - Touch ID works just fine, the notch - a still controversial bit, different body colours - most people I see around use some sort of a case on their phones, so this becomes somewhat irrelevant too.

Basically, what is there really to get so excited about, unless you really need 6.1” of screen estate?

 

[majkom]

This would make sense, although alot of people said that about the X last year and it outsold the 8 or the 8 Plus. I hope, for our wallets sake, the Xr vastly outsells the Xs or Xs Max so that this price point is still offered in the future (cause as soon as Apple thinks they could drop the ~$750 price point for $1k phones they will).



The Xr has the same PPI as the 8 Plus and much better battery life (which was already good on the 8 Plus).

wrong. it has ppi of regular ip8, ip á plus got higher ppi and thats really shame

 

[B4U]

The reason they discontinued the X immediately is because people expect Apple to lower the price on that model now, but that is a steal comparing to the Xs.

 

[Substance90]

That's classic market segmentation – make the product you want to sell expensive and then introduce a couple of options around it that are absurdly more expensive to make the product you actually want to sell seem cheap in comparison. Good for Apple, terrible for us.

 

[Krayzkat]

Might consider getting this phone, but will wait until after its released to make sure its not 'gimped' with too low RAM. I don't really care about OLED as i use my TV, iMac or iPad for media consumption, and well i have the 6s plus currently so it will be screen quality upgrade for me anyway.

Not really bothered about colours as will have a silicone-type case on it anyway.

 

[frumpsnake]

720p display for $750?

I love the increased resolution on my X but this 720p garbage needs to stop. It makes no sense quoting one of two dimensions with an arbitrary aspect ratio.

The actual XR resolution of 1792x828 is 15% at its narrowest but literally 61% more pixels than 1280x720 at it’s full aspect ratio.

Yes most of that increase is on the vertical axis but that’s why ppi is the better metric. It removes aspect ratio and size differences from the equation.

No it’s not cutting edge but despite the increase in size from 4.7 to 6.1 inch, the size of individual pixels is no different than the iPhone 8.

And due to the wider aspect, if for example you’re watching a 2.40:1 blockbuster film from iTunes on an XR, you’re looking at 1792x746, or a respectable 87% of the resolution of letterboxed 1080p (1920x800). That is virtually *double* 720p which would only be ~44% (1280x533).

 

[flashflooder]

XS has a better camera, double the RAM, and, arguably a better screen. Agree there’s overlap, but it’s not hard to imagine that people who want/need these features will be drawn to the XS over the XR. Not madness but preference or use case. Personally I think it’s absurd to build a phone approaching the size of an iPad Mini, but I’m not prepared to call it madness. Madness, imo, is Apple still offering the 7 (or the 8, pick one).

correct me if I'm wrong, but no one knows how much RAM any of these new models have.

 

[Aston441]

This would make sense, although alot of people said that about the X last year and it outsold the 8 or the 8 Plus. I hope, for our wallets sake, the Xr vastly outsells the Xs or Xs Max so that this price point is still offered in the future (cause as soon as Apple thinks they could drop the ~$750 price point for $1k phones they will).



The Xr has the same PPI as the 8 Plus and much better battery life (which was already good on the 8 Plus).

Is this PPI info correct? Same as the Plus phones? I can't find the info anywhere.

 

[Burger Thing]

326 dpi 720p Liquid retina... Phil is as full of **** as this garbage with price tag, which is still 200 USD more than acceptable.