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Actually, the XR beats the XS in two key factors:

1) Screen display area and information on screen. The XR is not only a bigger screen, it's also displays 22% more information than the XS.

2) Battery life. The XR should have about 25% longer battery life than the XS.


Can you elaborate on both of these?
 
Actually, the XR beats the XS in two key factors:

1) Screen display area and information on screen. The XR is not only a bigger screen, it's also displays 22% more information than the XS.

2) Battery life. The XR should have about 25% longer battery life than the XS.

Disagree.

Bigger screen does not equal better - If I wanted a bigger screen I would have bought an XS Max, or XR. Also, everybody knows OLED is better than LCD.

Battery life also does not mean it is a superior product - A van / truck can probably drive further than a Ferrari because it has a bigger fuel tank - so what?
 
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Disagree.

Bigger screen does not equal better - If I wanted a bigger screen I would have bought an XS Max, or XR. Also, everybody knows OLED is better than LCD.

Battery life also does not mean it is a superior product - A van / truck can probably drive further than a Ferrari because it has a bigger fuel tank - so what?
These are both superior features of the XR. Just because you don't want or need them doesn't mean they're not an advantages of the XR.

And yes, having a longer range in a car is definitely an advantage. BTW, since you mentioned Ferraris, I have zero use for one. Totally impractical vehicle, and insanely expensive. But if you want to buy one, go ahead.
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Can you elaborate on both of these?
The screen of the XR is designed to display the same amount of information as the XS Max. Both of them display 22% more screen information than the XS.

The battery life as rated by Apple is the longest on the XR, with the XS Max coming in second. We already have battery life benchmarks out there confirming that the XS Max lasts a lot longer than the XS. Given that Apple says the XR should last even longer, a reasonable estimate would be that the XR lasts 25% longer than the XS.
 
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Disagree.

Bigger screen does not equal better - If I wanted a bigger screen I would have bought an XS Max, or XR. Also, everybody knows OLED is better than LCD.

Battery life also does not mean it is a superior product - A van / truck can probably drive further than a Ferrari because it has a bigger fuel tank - so what?
What they said isn't incorrect, and they never claimed the Xs was a superior phone overall
 
These are both superior features of the XR. Just because you don't want or need them doesn't mean they're not an advantages of the XR.

And yes, having a longer range in a car is definitely an advantage.

Disagree.

Remember you are the one hijacking my post not the other way around..., so your comments are all the more amusing and irrelevant- "Just because you don't want or need them doesn't mean they're not an advantages of the XR." - That was my point, regarding your forcing of your opinion on me, telling me why you think the XR is better for me, when I have merely and clearly stated my preference otherwise.

So once again - I do not see LCD as an advantage over OLED and I do not see size as an advantage and having better battery life does not make it a better product - Just because you don't want or need them doesn't mean they're not an advantages of the XS.
 
The screen of the XR is designed to display the same amount of information as the XS Max. Both of them display 22% more screen information than the XS.

How is that calculated? I find the screen-scaling of iOS confusing. My main worry with the lower resulotion of the Xr is that it would display a lot less content whilst browsing or using Google Maps. But if I understand you correctly a Google Maps view on the Xs and Xr side-by-side of the same area, the Xr would show more of the surrounding area?
 
How is that calculated? I find the screen-scaling of iOS confusing. My main worry with the lower resulotion of the Xr is that it would display a lot less content whilst browsing or using Google Maps. But if I understand you correctly a Google Maps view on the Xs and Xr side-by-side of the same area, the Xr would show more of the surrounding area?
Yes, the XR would show more than the XS, at least if Google Maps has been updated to work on these screens this way.

The Max and XR are designed to display 414x896 points of information.
The XS is designed to display 375x812 points of information.
 
Oh. That's confusing, because there is actually a series of phones called Gmax.

lol, I was similarly confused!

I hate when people make up their own random acronyms, nicknames & whatnot and pretend like everyone should know what they’re talking about.
You should have seen arguments on here when the 1st Apple Watch came out & was being compared to Google’s offerings.
1/2 of the posters had decided that AW meant Apple Watch, while the other 1/2 decided it meant Android Wear.
Omg, it was a mad house!!!!
 
What they said isn't incorrect, and they never claimed the Xs was a superior phone overall

Eh? Who are they? Maybe you need to read the thread.

However, I am being told that the XR (that is not even out for review yet) is better than the XS and nobody has said that either. However Apple has stated that the XS is a superior phone and in line with their product pricing point.
 
Yes, the XR would show more than the XS, at least if Google Maps has been updated to work on these screens this way.

The Max and XR are designed to display 414x896 points of information.
The XS is designed to display 375x812 points of information.
To clarify:

Max: 414x896 x3 = 1242x2688
XR: 414x896 x2 = 828x1792

XS: 375x812 x 3 = 1125x2436


Eh? Who are they? Maybe you need to read the thread.

However, I am being told that the XR (that is not even out for review yet) is better than the XS and nobody has said that either. However Apple has stated that the XS is a superior phone and in line with their product pricing point.
We were refuting your incorrect claim that the XS was better than the XR in every single way (except price). When I pointed out that the XR had advantages over the XS, you started talking about Ferraris and what not.
 
For the price, I think this will be a better selling iPhone than the XS Max.

Its sadly true. Apple has reduced people to buying a lesser phone at a competitive price. The X series began as a $250 markup and nothing more. It is the same tech as competitors for more. If you want a competitive price you now have to buy a lesser phone. Nice move Apple. IOS did not suddenly become THAT much more valuable.
 
One thing about the XR — why doesn’t Apple offer the front bezel in white as they did previously? I understand they may not want the notch to contrast with the screen, but I would think the surrounding bezel could be.

I’m gonna miss my white bezels on my future Apple devices if they continue with this approach.

Granted they are probably trying to perpetuate this illusion of edge-to-edge, which it is not, but I’d rather have the white bezel, no matter how slim ... especially on the white model. That always bothered me about the 5c too. And now it’s true for all of the new iPhones.

For 10 years, iPhone users that wanted a black bezel with something besides black or space grey were out of luck.
 
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Disagree.

Bigger screen does not equal better - If I wanted a bigger screen I would have bought an XS Max, or XR. Also, everybody knows OLED is better than LCD.

Battery life also does not mean it is a superior product - A van / truck can probably drive further than a Ferrari because it has a bigger fuel tank - so what?
What a terrible analogy. A better battery in a phone is a definite huge plus for one phone over another.
 
What a terrible analogy. A better battery in a phone is a definite huge plus for one phone over another.
Battery life is one of the biggest factors for a phone for some people. My 6S eats through the battery when using the camera. The battery life on the XR will be a major improvement for shutter bugs especially considering the XR should get the same picture quality as the XS/XS Max due to having the same main camera.
 
We were refuting your incorrect claim that the XS was better than the XR in every single way (except price). When I pointed out that the XR had advantages over the XS, you started talking about Ferraris and what not.

Wrong.

I never used the words "in every single way (except price)" - Strawman arguments like this just show you up.

My first post stated "You get what you pay for [with Apple]. And this is never so pertinent where Apple is concerned. They are not going to make the XR better than the XS"

So once again - I do not see LCD as a superior advantage over OLED and I do not see screen size (resulting in a larger footprint) as an advantage / making it superior and having better battery life does not make it a better product.

So..., what I actually said was that I do not agree that the XR is a better overall product than the XS / XS MAX and definitely not fir the reasons you are giving - so do not 'strawman' quote me saying otherwise.

If the XR and XS where the exact same size with the same price difference, I could see your points.
 
Battery life is one of the biggest factors for a phone for some people. My 6S eats through the battery when using the camera. The battery life on the XR will be a major improvement for shutter bugs especially considering the XR should get the same picture quality as the XS/XS Max due to having the same main camera.

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Wrong.

I never used the words "in every single way (except price)" - Strawman arguments like this just show you up.

My first post stated "You get what you pay for [with Apple]. And this is never so pertinent where Apple is concerned. They are not going to make the XR better than the XS"

So once again - I do not see LCD as a superior advantage over OLED and I do not see screen size (resulting in a larger footprint) as an advantage / making it superior and having better battery life does not make it a better product.

So..., what I actually said was that I do not agree that the XR is a better overall product than the XS / XS MAX and definitely not fir the reasons you are giving - so do not 'strawman' quote me saying otherwise.

If the XR and XS where the exact same size with the same price difference, I could see your points.
You are correct. You did not say in every single way. I was confusing another post. Sorry about that.

However, to deny a bigger screen and longer battery life are advantages is just odd. You may not want a bigger screen or longer battery life, but they are huge advantages that many would value over the XS.

As for which is better: I think the XS Max is better than the XR, no doubt, but at high cost. For the XS vs XR, it's a more difficult decision, because of the disadvantages the XS has vs. the XR.
 
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