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iPhone XS Max vs. OnePlus 7 Pro

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In-display fingerprint sensors are convenient, but in this case, while it works okay, it's not as fast or as easy to use as Face ID.
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I've got the iPhone XS Max, the Pixel 3, older iPhones, and other Android phones. In my opinion, Face ID is a pain, especially if, say, I want to tell Siri to open an app while I'm driving (like Audible - not something I'm going to be reading). Using my fingerprint - front scanner, back scanner, I don't care - is always easier unless I'm staring at the phone, and in those cases it's no more difficult. Fingerprint scanners are also typically faster - Android or iOS - than slide-and-stare.

I love the Max. I just do not love Face ID.
 
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Up until 3-years ago, I was an Apple full-tilt, maxed-out everything user. However, since I tend to upgrade every year, the ever-increasing costs of Apple products have me rethinking my allegiance. If it were not for my three HomePods, I would prefer the OnePlus 7 Pro. This change has also affected my mindset on my fully configured MBP. Again, if I were buying a new laptop, it would definitely not be a new MacBook Pro. Apple completely lost me on the mega-buck i9 build.
 
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heov said:
. And FaceID being easier and faster than a fingerprint? That seems subjective, and I'm not so sure Face ID is faster given its implementation requiring you to swipe up.
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Swipe up isn’t part of Face ID , the unlocking has already happened Apple has just decided to leave you on the unlocked lock screen for notifications rather than going directly into the home screen.
 
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in a recent survey between mac os and windows notebooks- price was never a factor for the Mac OS consumer.. this carries over to Apple goods in general as the keys to the kingdom (ie: ecosystem) were never going to be shared, very much like Tesla is doing now with their cars - its the ecosytem over substance. The ONE+ is a great phone and is priced "on earth".. but the iOS devices were built to pull in Apple consumers as a base and introduce the device to more non-apple users to spur Apple device sales.. now 15 years later and another generation gone by, they have suceeded in being the biggest company on earth.. bow to your overlords..(btw- i have owned macs since they came out.. so let's not make this an apple v. android (or windows for that matter) kind of diatribe..)
 
Apples big problem is that they no longer make iPhone's or sustainable computers. They make a load of tablets and run their mouth about environmental credentials.
 
It’s hard to not like what OnePlus is doing. I’m not an Android user but OnePlus has been interesting to me for the past couple generations. It would be tough to pass on the 7 Pro if I were an Android user.
 
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Khedron said:
"but Apple has always been better at memory management and thus there's not a discernible difference in performance"

But Apple has never allowed split screen multitasking so if you've already accepted a crippled OS there no need for more RAM
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ipads with even 2 GB RAM handle split screen multitasking just fine, so I’m sure the XS max could manage.
 
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Khedron said:
It's always the same talking points.

FaceID is faster (assuming you're already looking at the phone and don't include swiping)
FaceID is more secure (literally no one ever has had a problem because fingerprint sensors are slightly too insecure but FaceID would have just been secure enough)
iPhone has smaller bezels (assuming you compare to the largest bezel on the competitor and don't count Apple's digital chin)
iOS has better RAM management (because it doesn't support multitasking so only has to manage a single app at a time)
iOS users won't want to change (even though 95% of the apps they use are identical on Android)
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I don’t know what the screen to body ratio is on that one plus phone is but the iPhone certainly doesn’t have the best screen to body ratio anymore. The S10/S10+ has a higher screen to body ratio than the Xs/Xs max. I’d presume that this one plus phone has a higher ratio because it has no notch or cut out.
[doublepost=1558758812][/doublepost]Not all android phones have 2D facial recognition. The mate 20 pro and the LG G8 have 3D facial recognition.
 
Digital Dude said:
Up until 3-years ago, I was an Apple full-tilt, maxed-out everything user. However, since I tend to upgrade every year, the ever-increasing costs of Apple products have me rethinking my allegiance. If it were not for my three HomePods, I would prefer the OnePlus 7 Pro. This change has also affected my mindset on my fully configured MBP. Again, if I were buying a new laptop, it would definitely not be a new MacBook Pro. Apple completely lost me on the mega-buck i9 build.
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You don’t need to upgrade every year. What a waste
 
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Khedron said:
It's always the same talking points.

FaceID is faster (assuming you're already looking at the phone and don't include swiping)
FaceID is more secure (literally no one ever has had a problem because fingerprint sensors are slightly too insecure but FaceID would have just been secure enough)
iPhone has smaller bezels (assuming you compare to the largest bezel on the competitor and don't count Apple's digital chin)
iOS has better RAM management (because it doesn't support multitasking so only has to manage a single app at a time)
iOS users won't want to change (even though 95% of the apps they use are identical on Android)
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I would challenge the whole concept that FaceID is more secure. To the point that FaceID is one of the least secure methods of locking a device if you are with the device.

If I as a criminal or a police/government agency has you and your phone with me.
If it has a fingerprint lock, then I'd need to physically try and force you to get one of your 10 fingers onto the pad.
If it has a password lock then I need to threaten you or read your mind to access the code.
If it has Face ID all I need to do it get you to roughly look at the phone for a second and I have access.

Whilst Apple may say it's more secure in one way, it's the very least secure in all other ways.
As a human, if I hold something up, you will turn and see what I'm holding, and the second you do that, your phone I'm holding is unlocked.

That's VERY insecure in a real world scenario.

Hell, I could even put the phone into someone else, with a small hole where the faceID sensor/s are and ask you to look at something at you'd not even realise it was your phone.

Sure, if your phone is found, then it's secure, but if you are with your phone, its the least secure.
 
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OnePlus 7 became the next phone to look like Samsung Galaxy/Huawei Mate Pro, and this is sad.

Why do companies think curved glass is better than more flat looking one? Sure it may look cool but serves zero need.
 
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jameskatt said:
There is ZERO point to this comparison.

The biggest problem with anything other than an Apple iPhone is that it DOES NOT HAVE iOS.

MacOS and iOS are the primary reasons for purchasing an Apple Product.
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Remove the hardware comparison and your pretty much paying $500 for IOS, if you think it’s worth that kind of premium, then fine.
 
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Just switched to OP7 Pro after 12 years of iPhones (since the original one bought on day one).
I have to say I feel like I have been living in a cave without knowing there is beautiful sunshine outside...
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jameskatt said:
The biggest problem with anything other than an Apple iPhone is that it DOES NOT HAVE iOS.
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iOS s@cks big time. Try to use your own ringtone (have to LOVE iTunes, right?). Try to sort your photos
BY DATE - yes, after years of iPhones you have thousands of photos reset every 9999 images and your
photo library is a mess, still Apple refuses to introduce such simple thing as "sorting by date".
Try to download anything attached to your email and put it in a folder "downloads".
And actually SEE this folder LOL

I did all those things on day one of having OnePlus 7 Pro and I couldn't believe how simple it was.
Apple used to be all about simplicity, now it's a complete mess. Thank Cook.
 
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jsw said:
I've got the iPhone XS Max, the Pixel 3, older iPhones, and other Android phones. In my opinion, Face ID is a pain, especially if, say, I want to tell Siri to open an app while I'm driving (like Audible - not something I'm going to be reading). Using my fingerprint - front scanner, back scanner, I don't care - is always easier unless I'm staring at the phone, and in those cases it's no more difficult. Fingerprint scanners are also typically faster - Android or iOS - than slide-and-stare.

I love the Max. I just do not love Face ID.
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On the flip side, when I’m working and see a notification I look at the phone and the phone unlocks and the notification is displayed. Much easier than Touch ID. There are use cases where Face ID is more convenient and less convenient than Touch ID.
 
TeamPixel said:
Probably because Apple is boring, I mean how much news can you report on new iPhone colors
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As an apple retail employee, iOS feels like a Fisher Price Toy. I could be biased because I see them all day. Many of us in the Apple store feel the same way
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It’s simple but it gets the job done efficiently. That’s the most important thing.
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snowboarder said:
Just switched to OP7 Pro after 12 years of iPhones (since the original one bought on day one).
I have to say I feel like I have been living in a cave without knowing there is beautiful sunshine outside...
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iOS s@cks big time. Try to use your own ringtone (have to LOVE iTunes, right?). Try to sort your photos
BY DATE - yes, after years of iPhones you have thousands of photos reset every 9999 images and your
photo library is a mess, still Apple refuses to introduce such simple thing as "sorting by date".
Try to download anything attached to your email and put it in a folder "downloads".
And actually SEE this folder LOL

I did all those things on day one of having OnePlus 7 Pro and I couldn't believe how simple it was.
Apple used to be all about simplicity, now it's a complete mess. Thank Cook.
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You can make a folder called downloads in iCloud Drive and save any attachments to that folder. I can look at any folder in iCloud Drive when I want to. Also even better anything I save or edit in iCloud Drive is available on my iPad and my MacBook.

My photos automatically arranged by date in the all photos tab in photos. I have over 24,000 photos in my iCloud library and it’s never ‘reset’
 
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It's an iPhone/One plus mashup. OnePlus is getting good.

I like that "buttery" smooth experience ..
 
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