iPhone XS Max vs. OnePlus 7 Pro

[aircanman]

It makes me laugh how the inertia of apples development makes other manufacturers innovate, then apple sits in the shade waiting to rob the best ideas for September!

There is no doubt that this phone on paper is better than iPhone, I think fingerprint recognition is better than FaceID, it was so much quicker to pay with a fingerprint, the notch doesn't bother me that much but I think it's just another compromise, something Apple users have to do a lot of the time!

If android was as stable as iOS I would jump ship straight away.

 

[jont-fu]

I’d like to know how many fast charge cycles the battery in OP7 can take without losing capacity. I’m using the included charger on my iPhone, even though I have faster chargers, to keep the battery health better over time.

 

[bice]

I love the true dual sim system of oneplus.

 

[Blaze4G]

Lmao please. That has to be the most gimmicky feature in the world. Home bar swipes between apps is way more practical

Strongly disagree if you consider PIP to be split screen multitasking. PIP is such a huge benefit. You probably just don't see the benefit because you haven't had it to use. Which is typical for humans. Many iPhone users here didn't see the benefit of wireless charging until they had it.

Whenever I am using GPS and I have iPhone users as passengers and they see maps in PIP mode while I switch songs they are amazed lol.

Not sure how you can say swiping between apps is more practical. Swipe between maps and music while I am driving?

Swipe between a youtube video and browser, each time pausing the video? I would be watching a video and want to fact check or research something mentioned in the video...I can have it continue playing in PIP mode while I browse. Seems much more practical imo.

 

[Khedron]

It’s simple but it gets the job done efficiently. That’s the most important thing.
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You can make a folder called downloads in iCloud Drive and save any attachments to that folder. I can look at any folder in iCloud Drive when I want to. Also even better anything I save or edit in iCloud Drive is available on my iPad and my MacBook.

My photos automatically arranged by date in the all photos tab in photos. I have over 24,000 photos in my iCloud library and it’s never ‘reset’

Hang on, why do you need to upload a document to the cloud just to store it locally on your phone?

Cook's Privacy.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Hang on, why do you need to upload a document to the cloud just to store it locally on your phone?

Cook's Privacy.

No you can store it locally on your phone if you want. Save it to files and on my phone.

 

[idrewpage]

It's always the same talking points.

FaceID is faster (assuming you're already looking at the phone and don't include swiping)
FaceID is more secure (literally no one ever has had a problem because fingerprint sensors are slightly too insecure but FaceID would have just been secure enough)
iPhone has smaller bezels (assuming you compare to the largest bezel on the competitor and don't count Apple's digital chin)
iOS has better RAM management (because it doesn't support multitasking so only has to manage a single app at a time)
iOS users won't want to change (even though 95% of the apps they use are identical on Android)

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What?!? iOS most certainly does support multitasking.

 

[The Game 161]

Price wise it’s a great price...and they did a good job with oneplus And those wanting to try Android it’s a great choice
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Remove the hardware comparison and your pretty much paying $500 for IOS, if you think it’s worth that kind of premium, then fine.

But you aren’t you also paying for great hardware too it’s not as simple as just the OS

Feature wise there is little differences from the top android flagships and new iPhones.

 

[ani4ani]

Price wise it’s a great price...and they did a good job with oneplus And those wanting to try Android it’s a great choice
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But you aren’t you also paying for great hardware too it’s not as simple as just the OS

Feature wise there is little differences from the top android flagships and new iPhones.

The hardware is generally average if you’re honest. Less Ram, less memory, smaller, lower resolution screen, LCD, no expansion etc. Aside from CPU (probably on par as cost), all the specs are lower. If One+ can sell better hardware for $400 less, then IOS comes at a hefty premium.

 

[TeamPixel]

As someone with an proper education and a real career, Android feels like a clunky piece of garbage. I guess the 'Fisher Price Toy' has the advantage of being properly formed and functional.

I will graduate with a computer science in 2 months so, the career thing is tempory. I am only 22 how old are you. I am right where I need to be at the age I am at. You just mad cause you know I'm right.

 

[Shanghaichica]

The hardware is generally average if you’re honest. Less Ram, less memory, smaller, lower resolution screen, LCD, no expansion etc. Aside from CPU (probably on par as cost), all the specs are lower. If One+ can sell better hardware for $400 less, then IOS comes at a hefty premium.

I agree the iPhone lacks some of the features of the top tier android phones. However the iPhone is worth the premium for me because of iOS and the ecosystem.

 

[The Game 161]

The hardware is generally average if you’re honest. Less Ram, less memory, smaller, lower resolution screen, LCD, no expansion etc. Aside from CPU (probably on par as cost), all the specs are lower. If One+ can sell better hardware for $400 less, then IOS comes at a hefty premium.

Depends ram isn’t needed to be super high on iPhones as the software handles it differently to android

Screen quality wise the max is still high quality and not much different to the top flagships. The features android has apple beat is some things apple may be adding with iOS 13. Do people even use SD cards these days given how much storage is on phones as standard these days...I don’t think it’s needed.

 

[I7guy]

The hardware is generally average if you’re honest. Less Ram, less memory, smaller, lower resolution screen, LCD, no expansion etc. Aside from CPU (probably on par as cost), all the specs are lower. If One+ can sell better hardware for $400 less, then IOS comes at a hefty premium.

If one is really honest, the hardware on the oneplus compared to android is just average. Compared to IOS it's just average as well. Specs aren't lower on iphone.
- better cpu
- more accurate display (imo)
- water proofing rating
- wireless charging
- 3dt

IOS executes better with less ram. Having more ram isn't necessarily a perk, for android it's a necessity. And of course, since we are honest, we can debate how much weight the screen actually carries. I'm betting it's a YMMV.
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Strongly disagree if you consider PIP to be split screen multitasking. PIP is such a huge benefit. You probably just don't see the benefit because you haven't had it to use. Which is typical for humans. Many iPhone users here didn't see the benefit of wireless charging until they had it.

Whenever I am using GPS and I have iPhone users as passengers and they see maps in PIP mode while I switch songs they are amazed lol.

Not sure how you can say swiping between apps is more practical. Swipe between maps and music while I am driving?

Swipe between a youtube video and browser, each time pausing the video? I would be watching a video and want to fact check or research something mentioned in the video...I can have it continue playing in PIP mode while I browse. Seems much more practical imo.

Really, iphone users aren't aware ios already supports split screen mode? Interesting that oneplus dropped wireless charging. Their rational must be their customers don't really need one of the most touted features of android.

And you are right, the max should have split screen, like android should have an imessage equivalent. But horses for course. However, both are software as this article wasn't comparing ios vs android specifically.

 

[AnonMac50]

There are other Android phones with 3D facial recognition. Kinda unfair to say “like all other android phones...”

 

[Blaze4G]

If one is really honest, the hardware on the oneplus compared to android is just average. Compared to IOS it's just average as well. Specs aren't lower on iphone.
- better cpu
- more accurate display (imo)
- water proofing rating
- wireless charging
- 3dt

IOS executes better with less ram. Having more ram isn't necessarily a perk, for android it's a necessity. And of course, since we are honest, we can debate how much weight the screen actually carries. I'm betting it's a YMMV.
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Really, iphone users aren't aware ios already supports split screen mode? Interesting that oneplus dropped wireless charging. Their rational must be their customers don't really need one of the most touted features of android.

And you are right, the max should have split screen, like android should have an imessage equivalent. But horses for course. However, both are software as this article wasn't comparing ios vs android specifically.

Well I was responding to someone that said split screen is a gimmick.

iPhones does not support split screen nor pip for different apps. So I'm not sure what your first TV sentence was trying go state.

One plus dropped wireless charging? Afaik they didnt have wireless charging to begin with. Check my post history, I have stated I have only used wireless charging once. I've owned phones that wirelessly charge since 2013. I would much rather have a phone that can charge to 50% in 20 minutes than have wireless charging.

Its funny, you state water proofing rating and wireless charging as an advantage for the iPhone but when iPhones didn't have either you said you didn't want wireless charging or water proofing. You have said wireless charging is a negative in your opinion but now its an advantage because the iPhone has it? Don't be so blatantly biased.

 

[anthogag]

I also really dislike the curved screen edge that is a feature on android devices. A totally useless show-off feature; look we can curve the screen

The $500 price difference is a big deal. This means an iPhone on 2 year contract still costs $500 while the One Plus is $0.

To justify higher costs Apple probably needs to use all ‘connections’ it has and iPhone camera technology has to be at the forefront.

Does Adobe have a special relationship with Apple? If I buy an iPhone Adobe’s iPhone app should be free. Currently it is a monthly subscription.

Apple can’t wait for a technology to mature a bit before it uses it in iPhone.

 

[Thijs Moonen]

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[I7guy]

Well I was responding to someone that said split screen is a gimmick.

iPhones does not support split screen nor pip for different apps. So I'm not sure what your first TV sentence was trying go state.

One plus dropped wireless charging? Afaik they didnt have wireless charging to begin with. Check my post history, I have stated I have only used wireless charging once. I've owned phones that wirelessly charge since 2013. I would much rather have a phone that can charge to 50% in 20 minutes than have wireless charging.

Its funny, you state water proofing rating and wireless charging as an advantage for the iPhone but when iPhones didn't have either you said you didn't want wireless charging or water proofing. You have said wireless charging is a negative in your opinion but now its an advantage because the iPhone has it? Don't be so blatantly biased.

It's not really clear I'm the one that is blatantly biased.

I didn't say iphones support split screen, I said ios did. That is a truism.

For the spec touters in the group, that is what I was doing, comparing specs. I never said I found water proofing or wireless charging my go to spec. Water proof certification benefits the consumer not the manufacturer (check my post history), but wireless charging was always a touted android spec (for some here on MacRumors). That you now pivot on that is well, amusing.
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It makes me laugh how the inertia of apples development makes other manufacturers innovate, then apple sits in the shade waiting to rob the best ideas for September!

There is no doubt that this phone on paper is better than iPhone, I think fingerprint recognition is better than FaceID, it was so much quicker to pay with a fingerprint, the notch doesn't bother me that much but I think it's just another compromise, something Apple users have to do a lot of the time!

If android was as stable as iOS I would jump ship straight away.

With face id you pre-authorize by pressing the power button twice. When you get to the terminal hold the phone to the nfc reader and done. Nothing else to do, if instant payment isn't fast enough...
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I would challenge the whole concept that FaceID is more secure. To the point that FaceID is one of the least secure methods of locking a device if you are with the device.

If I as a criminal or a police/government agency has you and your phone with me.
If it has a fingerprint lock, then I'd need to physically try and force you to get one of your 10 fingers onto the pad.
If it has a password lock then I need to threaten you or read your mind to access the code.
If it has Face ID all I need to do it get you to roughly look at the phone for a second and I have access.

Whilst Apple may say it's more secure in one way, it's the very least secure in all other ways.
As a human, if I hold something up, you will turn and see what I'm holding, and the second you do that, your phone I'm holding is unlocked.

That's VERY insecure in a real world scenario.

Hell, I could even put the phone into someone else, with a small hole where the faceID sensor/s are and ask you to look at something at you'd not even realise it was your phone.

Sure, if your phone is found, then it's secure, but if you are with your phone, its the least secure.

In a real world concept all a criminal has to do is hold a gun to your head and then it's irrelevant, whether you have touch id or face id enabled or not. Unless one has a death wish, you will unlock your phone. So there's that.

If you are worried about LE getting into your phone, don't enable either touch id or face id. So looking at it this way, you decide your risk and act accordingly. Or just press the home button a few times to lock out face id.

 

[Blaze4G]

It's not really clear I'm the one that is blatantly biased.

I didn't say iphones support split screen, I said ios did. That is a truism.

For the spec touters in the group, that is what I was doing, comparing specs. I never said I found water proofing or wireless charging my go to spec. Water proof certification benefits the consumer not the manufacturer (check my post history), but wireless charging was always a touted android spec (for some here on MacRumors). That you now pivot on that is well, amusing.

So how does ios supporting split screen make any sense in this argument? I clearly stated I was referring to PIP. iOS does not support PIP. Which is why the person I quoted would not know its benefit until they experience it for themselves.

You have stated in the past you don't want water proofing or wireless charging. That it is a waste of space, gimmick, etc. Now you state you enjoy both features because the iphone has it. Can't the same be possible for PIP when you finally get it?

I am just laughing at you for flip flopping, praising Apple whatever feature they include or don't include. I, as well as most android users welcome wireless charging and more features, even if we never use it. I am not selfish...I know others loves wireless charging so I would want it in every phone...not because I need it, but a phone having or not having it wouldn't affect me.

My point to you is, because Apple has wireless charging and waterproof you like both features, but when Apple didn't have it, you didnt want it at all or in the future. Which is why I can't take your opinion seriously. Today you will dislike an android feature, then iPhone gets it and you love it smh.

 

[I7guy]

So how does ios supporting split screen make any sense in this argument? I clearly stated I was referring to PIP. iOS does not support PIP. Which is why the person I quoted would not know its benefit until they experience it for themselves.

How is the end result of pip, different than split screen? Unless you are playing with words.

You have stated in the past you don't want water proofing or wireless charging. That it is a waste of space, gimmick, etc. Now you state you enjoy both features because the iphone has it. Can't the same be possible for PIP when you finally get it?

Please show where I said these were my go to specs.

I am just laughing at you for flip flopping, praising Apple whatever feature they include or don't include. I, as well as most android users welcome wireless charging and more features, even if we never use it. I am not selfish...I know others loves wireless charging so I would want it in every phone...not because I need it, but a phone having or not having it wouldn't affect me.

My point to you is, because Apple has wireless charging and waterproof you like both features, but when Apple didn't have it, you didnt want it at all or in the future. Which is why I can't take your opinion seriously. Today you will dislike an android feature, then iPhone gets it and you love it smh.

It seems you want to respond with any old hyperbole, rather than directly to the wording in my post. That's deflecting. What's amusing is the response to a vendor that leaves out two widely touted android features.

Bottom line: the premise of this thread was comparing two phones and you made this about equating what the vendor released as a product compared to personal preferences. That just doesn’t track.

 

[alpi123]

There are other Android phones with 3D facial recognition. Kinda unfair to say “like all other android phones...”

Sure, there are some with 3D facial recognition but they don't invest as much time as Apple does to perfect it and make it more secure and faster. They just put it so they can say they have 3D too.
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The hardware is generally average if you’re honest. Less Ram, less memory, smaller, lower resolution screen, LCD, no expansion etc. Aside from CPU (probably on par as cost), all the specs are lower. If One+ can sell better hardware for $400 less, then IOS comes at a hefty premium.

Have you seen an iPhone's inside vs Android phone one? iPhones are literally beautiful on the inside too, their materials are kinda premium. I've never seen an Android phone that has put that kind of attention to detail to their internals.

For example, One Plus just added their turn to Haptic Touch but before that they've been using the old regular vibration motor, like every other Android phones does at the moment. Some of you can say this feature is dumb and way overpriced, but I personally feel like makes a huge difference.

 

[Koh Phi Phi]

Lmao please. Split Screen has to be the most gimmicky feature in the world. Home bar swipes between apps is way more practical

I use split screen on my Galaxy Note 8 ALL THE TIME. For example, I play a YouTube video tutorial while I take notes on a text file. I repeat: all the time!

 

[NickName99]

One of my biggest annoyances with Android is the lack of AirDrop. For example, my mom visited for Mother’s Day weekend. My wife and I took some pictures on our iPhones. With AirDrop, we can just transfer pictures and videos to each other without using any data - it uses Bluetooth to negotiate a WiFi connection between our phones, and transfers the data at full WiFi speed, all seamlessly, hundreds of MB in seconds. With my mom’s Android, were like “ugh, we’ll email each other the pictures later when we’re home”.

Say you take a 10 second 4K 60fps video on your phone, and you want to give that video to your friend. It’s a 100MB file. With AirDrop you click on the share button, select AirDrop, select your friends phone, it transfers over in a few seconds. How do you get the video to them if they’re on Android? It’s too big to email. Upload all 100MB to Dropbox and send them a link? Upload it to Facebook or YouTube, where the quality is seriously degraded? Ugh.

 

[Blaze4G]

How is the end result of pip, different than split screen? Unless you are playing with words.


Please show where I said these were my go to specs.


It seems you want to respond with any old hyperbole, rather than directly to the wording in my post. That's deflecting. What's amusing is the response to a vendor that leaves out two widely touted android features.

I personally don't really use split screen, unless I need to type information from one app to another which is rare. PIP which I use daily with youtube and google maps, is where I am watching a youtube video, I just switch to any other app and youtube/maps automatically goes into PIP, I don't have to do anything extra, click any button. PIP takes about about 1/8th of the screen where as split screen is more half and half (although you can adjust the ratio to about 1/3 and 2/3). Split screen takes an extra step which is why I don't use it much.


You have previously said you would never want wireless charging to be in an iphone. Now, you use it, why would you use something you never wanted? They don't have to be your go to spec. You did mention before that wireless charging and water resistance were significant upgrades.

Further more, the OP7 pro is clearly water resistant, as mentioned before, they didn't want to pay for the IP rating. There are videos on youtube clearly showing it is.

 

[bice]

I’d like to know how many fast charge cycles the battery in OP7 can take without losing capacity. I’m using the included charger on my iPhone, even though I have faster chargers, to keep the battery health better over time.

I've used the supplied fast charger with my oneplus 5t for some 2 years and no show of weakening battery. It still lasts me the normal 72-96 hours.
For the oneplus 7 it might be different, but they key might be that if you only need to charge twice a week, the number of cycles is kept down. Compared to a phone that needs daily+ charging, your battery weares 3x as quickly (all else equal)