I have Samsung Galaxy Note 9. It has not crashed once. The apps are solid too (admittedly I use just a few mainstream apps). In short, the phone just can't be any more solid than it is. No dropped calls, no crashes, just perfect.
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iPhone XS Max vs. OnePlus 7 Pro
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I have Samsung Galaxy Note 9. It has not crashed once. The apps are solid too (admittedly I use just a few mainstream apps). In short, the phone just can't be any more solid than it is. No dropped calls, no crashes, just perfect.
Airdrop is nice. In the past I just created an album and shared it. Can be shared with both iOS and android users.
With all the bugs -and now touch disease in my 8+ too- 
, the curved screen is the only thing preventing me from jumping to OnePlus 7 Pro or the Galaxy s10e,* especially since I can skip the notch and Face ID.
*Though I am not sure if 10e has the curved screen.
, the curved screen is the only thing preventing me from jumping to OnePlus 7 Pro or the Galaxy s10e,* especially since I can skip the notch and Face ID.*Though I am not sure if 10e has the curved screen.
I dislike the curve display as well. The s10e has a flat display. The regular one plus is also a flat display. I wish Samsung would get rid of that trend.With all the bugs -and now touch disease in my 8+ too-
Another day, another Android smartphone.
Sorry there is no 'compelling advantage' for me to goto Android vs iPhone.
There are a few nicety's I'd like to have in iOS or that I may have to wait a awhile (getting a better polish), yet overall and over a day to day experience there is no compelling advantage that Android as an entire system or ecosystem has for me to consider it.
Samsung's Dex is really nice ... but it still does not domesticate the client/server. For a real Windows 10 experience in it or a desktop experience that we're used to in the modern world, I still would need to use Horizon 7 workspace/persistent desktop Win10 setup. This is the only real place some 12GB of RAM really shines.
Device power: on iOS any application I run or using the internal native software shows a boost every new hardware iteration and it lasts a month, year, or more on the same hardware. Battery degredadation happens in all phones. Yet on Android ... all those user unknown processes running due to a forced ALL permission granted when installed or no install takes a serious toll on privacy and system performance that is noticeable in less than a few months.
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Even Dan of macrumors made mention the one plus is missing wireless charging. It’s also missing sd card slot and ip rating and goes back to touted android features by many who like android. (Notice Dan didn’t say i7guy doesn’t think much of wireless and therefore the one plus is perfect for him
) as far as the lack of ip rating one one plus phone resistance could be different than the next.Android has many alternatives to AirDrop (including the once that use NFC for initiating the connection - a feature missing on iPhones). You problem was transferring files between the devices with different OSes, it's not an Android problem.
I don't know who Dan is...I am guessing he is an editor for Macrumors? lol. Oneplus never included SD cards afaik. No SD card slot is definitely a negative for me...not a reason I wouldn't buy it though. I wouldn't get OP7 pro because of the curved screen.Ok.
Even Dan of macrumors made mention the one plus is missing wireless charging. It’s also missing sd card slot and ip rating and goes back to touted android features by many who like android. (Notice Dan didn’t say i7guy doesn’t think much of wireless and therefore the one plus is perfect for him
Funny you say one OnePlus phone resistance could be different than the next, but when the iPhone didn't have official water resistance rating you touted how many youtube videos showed the iPhone 6 was water resistant, just not advertised. Why the double standards?
Because OnePlus didn't advertise the OP7 Pro as water resistant doesn't mean the OP7 Pro is not water resistant.....your words not mine.
But hey, you're not biased at all.
Software can't ever replace RAM. There are 1TB SD cards now. Is there 1TB iPhone? And even if there was the price difference would be enormous.
For some, iOS just works better because of their setup which is fine.
Just a correction though, Android no longer does a force all permission when installed for the past 3 or 4 years.
On a display sized ~6 inch? You must have an eagle's eye. Or, even better, you are just as large as an ant.
Who needs that much storage? And 1TB SD cards still cost a further what, £300-450 so hardly cheap
I thought the same until I started recording in 4k. 4k eats memory so quick, if you record alot I don't think 512GB is enough unless you transfer them over to a pc or the cloud regularly.
I realise everyone is getting worked up about the particular details and their preferences about screen shape, tech specs or cameras etc but I think that is to get lost in the details.
The market for smartphones has changed dramatically over the past year or two, driven in large part by a big expansion of many firms into aggressive price markets especially India and China. In particular the mid range phones are now coming with dual or triple cameras, edge to edge displays and large screens. The market has matured and nowadays for 99% of consumers any of the newer tech CPUs, RAM, screens, cameras are more than good enough.
Apple figured out some years ago a very successful strategy of selling the last generation or two at quite high prices, the R&D costs already sunk, lots of profit form them. That strategy is going to have to change radically. To see what the competition is offering versus Apple asking top dollar for an iPhone 7 shows Apple has to get more aggressive on this. Little wonder their sales slumped so badly over the past 12 months.
I'm an Apple fan, have been for 20 years and frankly I'm not going anywhere. I'll pay the premium and suck it up just because I still think they are the best. However where I once knew I was overpaying a little bit I now know it's a lot and that stings.
Apple has figured some of this out. They brought out dual SIMs which is essentially something for the Indian market because of how their market works there but the prices are too high for the Indian market. But they have realised selling a 7 or 8 for top dollar won't work there when for half the price you get something that looks so much more modern running Android with unlimited online photo storage so it seems they will build the X again but in India - it looks great so will be interesting to see how it goes. They will likely price it aggressively too using various cash back schemes to sell it for less in India than the rest of the world while pretending not to.
One place Apple hasn't got it is with regard to photography and how it is often the key aspect of phones. Google offers unlimited cloud storage for your photos. That's an astonishing thing really and Apple hasn't responded at all. Their iCloud pricing isn't bad but compared to "free" it won't wash in much of Asia. Add in cheaper phones with dual cameras and Apple looks quite pedestrian unless you are buying the absolute top end.
One thing in the video that was to miss the point was the talk of imessage. I love it too but spending tie in Asia as I do now for work the battle is already lost there - it's WhatsApp or nothing. You'll routinely find two people with iPhones will still communicate via WhatsApp.
The market for smartphones has changed dramatically over the past year or two, driven in large part by a big expansion of many firms into aggressive price markets especially India and China. In particular the mid range phones are now coming with dual or triple cameras, edge to edge displays and large screens. The market has matured and nowadays for 99% of consumers any of the newer tech CPUs, RAM, screens, cameras are more than good enough.
Apple figured out some years ago a very successful strategy of selling the last generation or two at quite high prices, the R&D costs already sunk, lots of profit form them. That strategy is going to have to change radically. To see what the competition is offering versus Apple asking top dollar for an iPhone 7 shows Apple has to get more aggressive on this. Little wonder their sales slumped so badly over the past 12 months.
I'm an Apple fan, have been for 20 years and frankly I'm not going anywhere. I'll pay the premium and suck it up just because I still think they are the best. However where I once knew I was overpaying a little bit I now know it's a lot and that stings.
Apple has figured some of this out. They brought out dual SIMs which is essentially something for the Indian market because of how their market works there but the prices are too high for the Indian market. But they have realised selling a 7 or 8 for top dollar won't work there when for half the price you get something that looks so much more modern running Android with unlimited online photo storage so it seems they will build the X again but in India - it looks great so will be interesting to see how it goes. They will likely price it aggressively too using various cash back schemes to sell it for less in India than the rest of the world while pretending not to.
One place Apple hasn't got it is with regard to photography and how it is often the key aspect of phones. Google offers unlimited cloud storage for your photos. That's an astonishing thing really and Apple hasn't responded at all. Their iCloud pricing isn't bad but compared to "free" it won't wash in much of Asia. Add in cheaper phones with dual cameras and Apple looks quite pedestrian unless you are buying the absolute top end.
One thing in the video that was to miss the point was the talk of imessage. I love it too but spending tie in Asia as I do now for work the battle is already lost there - it's WhatsApp or nothing. You'll routinely find two people with iPhones will still communicate via WhatsApp.
I just got the OnePlus 7 Pro for my boyfriend for his birthday and its truly a fast and beautiful phone, the screen is amazing...just not a fan of the curve edges!...Like Dan stated theres no point for them...I still love my iPhone XS Max!
SD cards are slower than iPhone (and other phones') internal storage. Still, I'd like a secondary SD card drive on my iPhone that the OS automatically uses to store photos and videos, as it's good enough for that. Sad that in a world with 1TiB being so tiny I still run out of space taking still photos.
Software practices make a huge difference for RAM usage. Just using Java is already at least doubling it, plus garbage collection is slow. Design differences afterwards can vary your usage by a factor of 50X. Look, Slack has managed to make instant messaging use 1GiB per team on desktop.
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iOS does manage RAM better, as do iOS apps. And no, there is multitasking, just not split-screen. Apps use RAM whether they're visible or not. It's pointless to argue about; what matters is the phone isn't slow in the end.
I don't even use many third-party apps on my iPhone, but iOS does a better job of preventing them from intruding. The built-in stuff is better and devoid of Google-related crap. Apple's support is the best vs others' being nonexistent. OS updates actually keep coming after more than a year. And there ain't no way I'm going to send green bubbles. Idgaf about privacy, but Apple's is better too.
For what, getting slightly more advanced hardware features? Worst trade deal in the history...
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The original iPhone had a 3.5" screen. A 6" screen is plenty for surfing with 2/3 screen and playing a small YouTube video (mostly listening while surfing) on the other 1/3.
I remember macrumors and appleinsider iPad users dismissed split screen on the Windows tablet calling it a gimmick. LOL and now Apple has the same thing except they still refuse to implement it properly for portrait mode. Have you ever used this feature?
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Which version of Galaxy Tab did you use this one? Have you used one from the latest Android and phones? I personally had to google have to use the split screen function of the iPad but it works good enough once I know how to do it. Unfortunately the iPad implementation doesn't work well in portrait mode since it splits like if it's in landscape mode. And you can only split 1/2 or 1/4 but not 1/3 for some reason.
Here's a video to use split screen in Android 9:
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I don't think these folks have used this feature on more recent phones and Androids. I use it a couple of times a week to stream sports while surfing the web.
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Exactly, the phone costs less than the max and is missing three touted features of android phones. Whether we would buy the phone or not is not relevant to the missing features.
Again, exactly. Apple didn't advertise the phone as water resistant, so there was no expectations there.
No, they said they didn’t go for the certification, that’s a cop-out reason. But it doesn’t mean they are as a whole water resistant.
I’m happy to say, you are completely objective as well.
Lmao when the iPhone 6 didnt have water resistant you kept insisting it was because of YouTube videos. Now I am doing the same for the OP7 pro and you're disagreeing. Only true if it has the Apple logo I guess.Exactly, the phone costs less than the max and is missing three touted features of android phones. Whether we would buy the phone or not is not relevant to the missing features.
Again, exactly. Apple didn't advertise the phone as water resistant, so there was no expectations there.
No, they said they didn’t go for the certification, that’s a cop-out reason. But it doesn’t mean they are as a whole water resistant.
I’m happy to say, you are completely objective as well.
It's missing 2 features based on your past statements. Dont flip flop please. YouTube videos was enough proof for you to say the iPhone 6 is water resistant and insist it must be because of them. So it must be enough proof now as well.
Funny how I was just speaking to another user how useful PIP is and because iPhone doesnt have it you replied to me about wireless charging and water resistance. Anything to defend Apple I guess. Next thing you're going to tell me is how the OP7 pro doesnt have a notch...your go to feature.
Show me where I've been biased...I have just been using what you said in the past against your argument.
Yup. I use it to watch youtube highlights of sports while reading the news or using reddit. It's great. You can make the video to be 1/3 or 1/2 of the screen. I use 1/3. No problem even with reading text at all especially with phones using a taller screen today. Your phone is inches away from your face and not several feet.
Touch disease happens on the 8+, too? Crap. I’ve kept mine on hand for family members who don’t like FaceID but most have moved on now to embrace it. I guess I’ll trade it in when the extended warranty is about to go. So far it’s okay.With all the bugs -and now touch disease in my 8+ too-
*Though I am not sure if 10e has the curved screen.
In answer to your uncertainty, the S10e display is gloriously flat. The S10 and S10+ displays have a very refined curve that isn’t visually problematic but it is “touchy” on the edges. However I must warn you there’s some funky glitch going on so when I am on some calls, my cheek or ear activate the screen and go web surfing while I’m talking and unaware my ear has tried to book a vacation for me. I am not kidding about that. It does not happen on every call but has happened twice and is enough to make me go back to using my Xr for calls.
Getting back to the OnePlus Pro, after patiently enduring through several generations the incremental refinement of curved displays on the Samsung S series phones, I can’t imagine taking on a phone that appears to have the generation 1 level of curvature on the glass. I find displays of that shape incredibly annoying due to the reflections when held at almost any angle. Horrible design. It must die. It’s worse than any notch.
Unfortunately your deflecting on the main point, which is what MacRumors says about the touted features. I encourage you to review the first post and watch Dan's video.
It's funny how you bring another posters preferences into this, when the thread isn't about user preferences. It's a comparison between two phones and the price differentiation and the features on the phones.
I urge you to show me where I have been biased in this thread, by pointing out what MacRumors is saying. My preferences are not the point of this thread, which is why it is evident you are just deflecting on the main point.