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iPhone XS = Xtra Smoothing (which explains the premium price).
XR probably stands for Xtra Realistic.
 
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exaggerate? a phone in 2018 is showing less detail than a phone made in 2013. i don't think it's an exaggeration to call it an absolute piece of garbage if it can't even stay on par with a selfie cam from the iphone 6 made 5 YEARS AGO

You seem WAYYYY passionate about selfie cams. Again, the theatrics about “super blurry” and “water colors” is ridiculous. Cameras a few years ago were not that blurry either. If your selfie library is that important, buy something else that fits your use case and priorities. And please, don’t send me a résumé.
 
So. Apple identifies you're a bit ugly. But rather than upset you by telling you, fixes it for you so you look smokin' hot for your friends. And now you're annoyed?

Well, we should have the choice to appear ugly or not. We should have the choice for a 3.5mm or not, we should have the fn choice over one ****** port!

Why does Apple have to wash everything. Jesus, even Apple programming and shows will be fake and beautiful. God forbid Apple make somerhing actually useful like a computer with ports.
 
If this is a problem its because Apple thinks your too dumb to know how to get or process good images. After all, Apple's target demographic are naive teenagers. And anyway who in their right mind would take anything but selfies. Remember Apple's attitude apparently is, "If you want a real camera that you can control go buy a Nikon."
 
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This looks pretty bad, "plastic" "fake", it should be optional, here's some screencaps from the inbox therapy video showing this example:

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This is an unintended side effect of the extremely aggressive de-noise they are doing to try and improve low light performance. Hopefully they can fix it without adding too much grain and noise into low light photos.
 
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Over the course of the last week, the front-facing camera in the iPhone XS and XS Max has been receiving a lot of attention because the selfies captured on the new devices are drastically different from those captured with the iPhone X or earlier iPhone models.

In a MacRumors forum thread and on Reddit, Apple has been accused of using a skin-smoothing feature or a "beauty filter" for prettier selfies from the front-facing camera. The effect was demoed by a Reddit user in the image below:

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We covered the issue in our recent iPhone XS Max vs. iPhone X camera comparison, where we did see the smoothing effect, but the front-facing camera's performance has garnered so much attention since then that we wanted to more prominently highlight the problem.

When taking a selfie in a situation where lighting is less than ideal, such as indoors or outdoors in areas with lower lighting, the iPhone XS Max appears to be applying a drastic smoothing effect that can hide freckles, blemishes, and other issues.

In full outdoor lighting the problem is less apparent, which has led to speculation that the skin smoothing is actually a result of some heavy-handed noise reduction techniques.

You can test the new camera yourself with an iPhone XS or XS Max and an older iPhone like an iPhone X model by taking selfies indoors and outdoors and comparing the differences between the two. In almost all cases where the lighting is low or uneven, photos captured with an iPhone XS Max look dramatically different.

It makes sense that we'd see differences between the iPhone XS and say, an iPhone 8 because the front-facing cameras are different, but as far as we know, the iPhone X and XS are using the same 7-megapixel front-facing camera. Apple detailed several changes to the rear-facing camera in the iPhone XS models, but beyond a new Neural Engine, there were no announced changes to the TrueDepth camera system.

Because the camera is the same, Apple is doing something different with the way photos are processed after being captured, which could be related to the new HDR features that have been implemented. Apple has a new A12 chip and next-generation Neural Engine that are aiding in photo processing to enable a Smart HDR feature that applies to both the rear and front-facing cameras.

Turning off HDR does not remove the smoothing effect, nor does tweaking any other camera setting, so if the ultra skin smoothing is a result of something like unintentional excessive noise reduction, it needs to be tweaked on Apple's end through a software update. YouTuber Unbox Therapy recently demoed the issue with a series of selfies.


While it's mostly the front-facing camera that's been under scrutiny, this is a problem that affects both the front-facing and rear-facing cameras and it's not entirely limited to skin. Excessive smoothing can be seen affecting other images as well.

There has been speculation that Apple intentionally implemented the skin smoothing feature to mimic the beauty mode that's popular in Asia and common on some other smartphones, but it's not clear if that was Apple's intention.

Many MacRumors readers and Reddit users have reported the issue to Apple, and given that this issue has received so much attention, we may see front-facing camera tweaks in a future iOS update.

Article Link: iPhone XS Users Complain About Skin-Smoothing Selfie Camera
[doublepost=1538186023][/doublepost]Can this people stop crying ? It makes your ugly faces beautiful
[doublepost=1538186161][/doublepost]Can these people stop whining? It makes your ugly faces beautiful
 
When do people not complain? Hey, this damn phone is trying to make me look better than I actually do, how dare they!!!!!
 
Apple is trying to help people look better in selfies they take from the front camera? How dare they??? In this day and age where every moron has a say there will be people who will feign outrage over everything. You try and give them a grand, how dare you? Who do you think you are?

Shut up and go away. If you’re taking an actual photo you don’t use the front facing camera. That’s for selfies and face time and Apple is trying to do the ugly a favor. So those complaining should shut up and say thank you. Apple is quite literally making them look better and all they can do is complain.
 
I used Focos and Pro Cam camera app to tested on Xs max , skin color looks much natural.
 
When I take a front facing pic it is only because I want a picture with one of my kids. I would rather have accurate skin tones and colors than auto smoothing.

Add a toggle or filter for it for those that would prefer it.

I doubt this is purposeful as it more than likely has to do with low light adjustments.
 
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