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iPhone5 to be released as early as January

Well I'm going to say what I believe...
For those of you waiting for the iPhone 5 (in which the article suggests should be released by January 2011), you might as well wait for the iPhone 6. Why? Well 5 months from now it will be January, and 6 months from then it will be June again with another annual iPhone release at hand. So you might as well wait for the 6 cause you're already waiting for the iPhone 5 for 5 months.

I must stop here because I'm ADD and noticed this; iPhone 5- Estimated waiting time 5 months, iPhone 6- Estimated release time after iPhone 5, 6 months. Maybe with the iPhone 7 you'll have to wait 7 months until the next new version and they'll continue doing this "cycle" until iPhone 12 at which point Apple would go back into their usual release cycle where they do 1 new iPhone revision per year :p- Yes... I am kidding when I say that

Anyway back to the topic, just buy the phone. If you don't like it and feel the Antenna problem is such an issue- return it and wait for the iPhone 5. Seriously guys get what you know you want, there is no harm in trying the iPhone 4 to see how it suits your needs.

For reference, I've had no friends complain about the Antenna issue- they know it's there, but it hasn't become problematic.

I'm still getting the 4.

Edit: I also fail to see why people think this damn Antenna is such a big problem. Personally, if I got an iPhone with the proximity sensor issue I would be so heated I'd probably have to return the phone. In my opinion the true issue Apple should be facing right now is the proximity sensor- they need to send that software update cause I am damn sure I'm not buying the phone until they release that update.

Edit 2: And no, I do not think this will happen.
 
aohus said:
yeah its clearer. i understand your point. its like theyre tacitly admitting they have a fault on their latest phone, however, they didn't prove anything.

the attenuation isn't the issue, its dropped calls due to attenuation. you have been mislead as well as many others in this forum. steve jobs did great... at misleading.
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You and "schweitzer" need to stop being literal.

WE ARE NOT SAYING WE BELIEVE ANYTHING. We are explaining Apple's viewpoint. I think Apple's PR is a mess. I think they handled the situation with complete fail. I'm in PR and Marketing and have been for over 20 years - and the situation will be a case study on poor crisis management for years to come.

Steve Jobs, and Apple- were PAINFULLY transparent. But that doesn't matter. Again. They believe X, Y and Z to be true. So they will maintain that. And if I were advising them - at this point - I would say that's the best course of action. The second they back down (now) they lose ALL credibility.

That's not me defending Apple or thinking they are great. That's me looking at the big picture for any company that would find themselves in this predicament.
 
Everybody knows the iPhone 4 is a faulty design, including Apple.

Lying is pointless when everybody knows the truth.

In fact: it harms you more than a mistake. That's a desaster for Apple.

Maybe they're realizing (slowly) what they're doing.
 
Schweitzer said:
Everybody knows the iPhone 4 is a faulty design, including Apple.

Lying is pointless when everybody knows the truth.

In fact: it harms you more than a mistake. That's a desaster for Apple.

Maybe they're realizing (slowly) what they're doing.
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Actually the design is really great. Just hold one in your hand and you will understand what I am saying. Of course the antenna could be placed in another place, but with the iPhone 4 I have better signal than with any other phone I ever had. I also never had a dropped call.
 
petvas said:
Actually the design is really great. Just hold one in your hand and you will understand what I am saying. Of course the antenna could be placed in another place, but with the iPhone 4 I have better signal than with any other phone I ever had. I also never had a dropped call.
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It's better to ignore him. He loves threads like this because he's able to troll and post without really adding any substance. He likes the attention. he knows what we are and what we are not saying. He just likes to "poke the bear"
 
petvas said:
Actually the design is really great. Just hold one in your hand and you will understand what I am saying. Of course the antenna could be placed in another place, but with the iPhone 4 I have better signal than with any other phone I ever had. I also never had a dropped call.
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I meant the antenna design, the overall desigh is really great.

And I believe you that you never dropped a call, I think that depends upon where you use your iPhone.
 
samcraig said:
It's better to ignore him. He loves threads like this because he's able to troll and post without really adding any substance. He likes the attention. he knows what we are and what we are not saying. He just likes to "poke the bear"
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That's not true.
 
Whilst there may be some sort of change to the design to improve things (like a clear insulating strip) I really doubt it will be called "iPhone 5".

This has the potential to be a rumour that is both right AND wrong! :D
 
I don't see how 2 iPhone refreshes in one year is so far off

Competition is getting stiffer in the smartphone market. Just today, NPD made an announcement stating that the Google's Android OS is the best selling OS for the quarter, beating out Apple.

Apple isn't allowed to have more than 1 refresh for their iPhone per year? is there a rule against this? it seems as though people in here do not want this to happen because they JUST got a new phone that happens to be controversial with regards to dropped calls due to attenuation (not attenuation itself, which is a known industry issue)

Now look at Android's OS which is on all 4 carriers for almost all handset makers. There is no doubt that Android OS will dominate the smartphone market due to the sheer number of licenses it hands out. That doesn't mean Google is a better company, however.
 
aohus said:
Apple isn't allowed to have more than 1 refresh for their iPhone per year? is there a rule against this? it seems as though people in here do not want this to happen because they JUST got a new phone that happens to be controversial with regards to dropped calls due to attenuation (not attenuation itself, which is a known industry issue)
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Sad but true.
 
aohus said:
(1) I don't see how 2 iPhone refreshes in one year is so far off

(2) Apple isn't allowed to have more than 1 refresh for their iPhone per year? is there a rule against this?
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1. It's not, it's just "unlike Apple" to have a major product refresh in under a year. That being said if the "Antenna Issue" just requires a small change to the phone where there is limited/no cosmetic changes then I can see this being a possibility. It would be nice to see a larger capacity introduced into the world of iPhones. We've been capped at 32GB for what, 2 years now? That's a different story too Anyway, I could be wrong on that.

2. Once again, nobody here has said there is a rule stating "Apple is limited to 1 iPhone revision per year". The fact is, it's unlike Apple to do major product transformations before a year is met.

Basically what people here on Macrumors are stating through observating the patterns of product revisions is this; Is it possible that Apple could do this? Yes. Is it likely? No.
 
aohus said:
I don't see how 2 iPhone refreshes in one year is so far off

Competition is getting stiffer in the smartphone market. Just today, NPD made an announcement stating that the Google's Android OS is the best selling OS for the quarter, beating out Apple.

Apple isn't allowed to have more than 1 refresh for their iPhone per year? is there a rule against this? it seems as though people in here do not want this to happen because they JUST got a new phone that happens to be controversial with regards to dropped calls due to attenuation (not attenuation itself, which is a known industry issue)

Now look at Android's OS which is on all 4 carriers for almost all handset makers. There is no doubt that Android OS will dominate the smartphone market due to the sheer number of licenses it hands out. That doesn't mean Google is a better company, however.
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Google only makes the OS, just like MS with windows phone 7, while Apple makes the hardware AND OS.

And no, Apple ISN'T allowed to have more than 1 refresh a year. Please name one instance which they have on their mobile devices.
 
Outrigger said:
And no, Apple ISN'T allowed to have more than 1 refresh a year. Please name one instance which they have on their mobile devices.
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And how would you know? Are you a senior executive in Apple's mobile division?

You make it seem as though what I said was gospel. I'm just saying I am 'OPEN' to the possibility of 2 iphone releases in a year, especially when competition gets stiffer. Just because a company has not done something in the past does not mean that will be precedent for the remainder of said companies' existence.
 
rdowns said:
Of course there's no chance. Any deviation from their normal cycle will open them up to a huge class action suit that they would lose.
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How would it open them up to a class action law suit. If they come out with a new device that is redesigned and has new features. A new design possibly meaning a different antenna or materials to avoid breaking/shatter. New features including more storage options like 64GB flash memory, slightly larger retina display to compete with evo and other larger format smart phones, or other features that people have requested. It does just open them up to sued. This is what's wrong with America. Everybody just wants to sue when something doesn't go their way. Ridiculous
 
It's not the iPhone 5 but it is the white iPhone 4. It's Apple's gift for the new year.
 
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