iPhones biggest strength is also it's weakness

[Elisha]

When the 6 first came out, there was a thread about only 1gb of ram. And the 6 was demonstrably bad in comparison to its competitors when it came for keeping apps and activities in the background. The issue was compounded further by the fact that the screens were higher resolution than the 5s and the gpu was using up more system ram as well. In reality, it had less than 900mb dedicated to the OS.
Hopefully gpus with dedicated ram become mainstream soon since games are just getting more intense and not more efficient!

 

[convergent]

Yes the iPhone 6 was crippled with 1GB OF RAM. I don't care what it sounds worse then... It was crippled from the start. So was the 6+. I'm sure I'm not the only one that shares that opinion... BTW opinion is the key word in that sentence ... Because it's MINE! My opinion...

How exactly did this cripple the 6? I have two daughters with a 6 and they haven't had any problem. It sold very well. I have seen several threads with people even claiming they like it better than the s... Which is kind of nuts, but doesn't sound crippled.

 

[Act3]

When the 6 first came out, there was a thread about only 1gb of ram. And the 6 was demonstrably bad in comparison to its competitors when it came for keeping apps and activities in the background. The issue was compounded further by the fact that the screens were higher resolution than the 5s and the gpu was using up more system ram as well. In reality, it had less than 900mb dedicated to the OS.
Hopefully gpus with dedicated ram become mainstream soon since games are just getting more intense and not more efficient!

And the iPad Air has a higher resolution than the iPhone 6, an older processor and 1 gig of ram. I guess that is even more handicapped. I may be mistaken but the iPad Air has the same GPU and same CPU as the 5s.

 

[unclejamaal]

I have since moved to Nexus 6P, because I would hate to own iPhone 6S and have Apple slow it down next year by releasing iOS which supposedly makes it "faster".

Interesting opinions especially about Planned obsolescence. Apple are masters at this - whether they do this deliberately or by a matter of 'design' is one for debate. As a 6s Plus owner I'm well aware my device could become 'slower' by this time next year and the thought process immediately goes into thinking I NEED the next new iPhone.

Although I do like the 6S Plus I have a shiny new 6P due tomorrow - I'll run both side by side but at least the big Plus I see about Android's is you dont immediately think of purchasing the next biggest, latest greatest device because your current device has slowed down.

 

[unclejamaal]

And the iPad Air has a higher resolution than the iPhone 6, an older processor and 1 gig of ram. I guess that is even more handicapped. I may be mistaken but the iPad Air has the same GPU and same CPU as the 5s.

I had to sell my iPad Air as it was jittery as heck. Lag, stutter, and sites crashing if they had a hint of JavaScript on them!

I got a Nexus 7 (2013) tab to replace it - yes smaller screen but I use it much more because its actually usable!

 

[Elisha]

And the iPad Air has a higher resolution than the iPhone 6, an older processor and 1 gig of ram. I guess that is even more handicapped. I may be mistaken but the iPad Air has the same GPU and same CPU as the 5s.

You'd never notice or care unless you are a heavy multitasker anyway. But yeah all of the devices with 1gb or less had issues retaining the current status of browser tabs when you came back to them after navigating trough a few other apps. The more tabs you had open, the more it had to reload.
You'd never notice or care if you are used to the behaviour. But if you come from a device that retains everything in ram and resumes where you left off without reloading or refreshing, it becomes frustrating!

 

[unclejamaal]

You'd never notice or care unless you are a heavy multitasker anyway. But yeah all of the devices with 1gb or less had issues retaining the current status of browser tabs when you came back to them after navigating trough a few other apps. The more tabs you had open, the more it had to reload.
You'd never notice or care if you are used to the behaviour. But if you come from a device that retains everything in ram and resumes where you left off without reloading or refreshing, it becomes frustrating!

I didnt get the 6 Plus because of the heavy amount of reloads. The Note 4 didnt reload browser pages as much so I stuck to that. I now have a 6s Plus, and there are reloads but definitely not as much as on the 6 Plus, if that makes sense

I noticed and cared enough NOT to buy the 6 Plus because of this reason last year.

Apple's marketing machine ensures that their target users notice no such things

 

[Elisha]

I didnt get the 6 Plus because of the heavy amount of reloads. The Note 4 didnt reload browser pages as much so I stuck to that. I now have a 6s Plus, and there are reloads but definitely not as much as on the 6 Plus, if that makes sense

I noticed and cared enough NOT to buy the 6 Plus because of this reason last year.

Apple's marketing machine ensures that their target users notice no such things

Yeah there are definitely reloads still in the 6s but it's way more improved. Not the Nexus level yet but better than the Galaxy S6 variants and the Note 5.

 

[convergent]

Interesting opinions especially about Planned obsolescence. Apple are masters at this - whether they do this deliberately or by a matter of 'design' is one for debate. As a 6s Plus owner I'm well aware my device could become 'slower' by this time next year and the thought process immediately goes into thinking I NEED the next new iPhone.

Although I do like the 6S Plus I have a shiny new 6P due tomorrow - I'll run both side by side but at least the big Plus I see about Android's is you dont immediately think of purchasing the next biggest, latest greatest device because your current device has slowed down.

Nothing is slowing down. The clock speed doesn't change. The amount of RAM doesn't change. What may change, if you choose to do so, is that you load a new version of the OS. Putting more code on it, could be more taxing. The same will happen if you add a new version of an OS to any other device, including any Android phone, if the new version has some significant new functions that are more taxing. Ever own a windows PC? Its physics. Perhaps why this is more noticeable on iPhones is that you actually get upgrades quickly. Good luck with that on most Android phones. I'd personally rather have access to upgrades and be able to choose if I want to install them or not, than to not get them for months, years, or never.

Its funny that we have both sides of the same argument going here... iOS isn't adding new stuff fast enough... oh wait, the new stuff they added in iOS made my phone run slower... oh wait, I want more new stuff in iOS... oh wait, that new stuff in iOS made my phone run slower.... You can't have it both ways.

 

[I7guy]

I didnt get the 6 Plus because of the heavy amount of reloads. The Note 4 didnt reload browser pages as much so I stuck to that. I now have a 6s Plus, and there are reloads but definitely not as much as on the 6 Plus, if that makes sense

I noticed and cared enough NOT to buy the 6 Plus because of this reason last year.

Apple's marketing machine ensures that their target users notice no such things

I notice you said your note 4 didn't reload "as much". Did samsungs marketing machine ensure their target users know the note 4 didn't reload "as much" as the 6plus?

 

[convergent]

I had to sell my iPad Air as it was jittery as heck. Lag, stutter, and sites crashing if they had a hint of JavaScript on them!

I got a Nexus 7 (2013) tab to replace it - yes smaller screen but I use it much more because its actually usable!

My wife has had an iPad Air (cellular version) since it was first introduces, uses it daily as her main computer, and I've never noticed it jitter, lag, stutter, or have problems with sites crashing. Not sure what you are doing, but its not a universal problem.

 

[Act3]

I am at my mother in law's and she has an iPad 3 still running 7.1.2, the UI on it is about as smooth as my air 2 running 9.2b4

 

[The Game 161]

Guess apple's view is to upgrade as soon as you can....that said If i used an older phone I wouldn't upgrade to nearest OS so the OP is right it's a tough one to decide if it's worth it or not.

 

[convergent]

Guess apple's view is to upgrade as soon as you can....that said If i used an older phone I wouldn't upgrade to nearest OS so the OP is right it's a tough one to decide if it's worth it or not.

The key is you can decide... which negates the OP's complaint.

And by the way, 5s in the house here that runs just fine on the latest update.

 

[unclejamaal]

My wife has had an iPad Air (cellular version) since it was first introduces, uses it daily as her main computer, and I've never noticed it jitter, lag, stutter, or have problems with sites crashing. Not sure what you are doing, but its not a universal problem.

Fair enough. I'm in the Uk and like to keep up to date with the news via independent.co.uk
Do you mind loading up that website then scrolling down the page to see if there's any stutter or lag ?

 

[unclejamaal]

I notice you said your note 4 didn't reload "as much". Did samsungs marketing machine ensure their target users know the note 4 didn't reload "as much" as the 6plus?

Lol
You got me there. What I meant was I could have over ten chrome pages open on the note 4 and wouldn't reload when switching back and forth. I'd have 4 tabs open on safari and it starts reloading !!

 

[Dreads]

I don't get it so my iPhone 6plus is a cripple... for me it makes phone calls send messages take photos and I can even search the Internet....

 

[Radon87000]

Interesting opinions especially about Planned obsolescence. Apple are masters at this - whether they do this deliberately or by a matter of 'design' is one for debate. As a 6s Plus owner I'm well aware my device could become 'slower' by this time next year and the thought process immediately goes into thinking I NEED the next new iPhone.

Although I do like the 6S Plus I have a shiny new 6P due tomorrow - I'll run both side by side but at least the big Plus I see about Android's is you dont immediately think of purchasing the next biggest, latest greatest device because your current device has slowed down.

Being in both ecosystems I can assure you Android updates don't slow the device down like iOS updates.Reason is simple.Apple needs to sell both hardware and software and to get people to upgrade.Google is only concerned with software and NOT the upgrades as they aren't concerned with it

 

[Elisha]

Google's OS updates speeds up older phones. Older Nexus devices get faster when a newer version is released. The Nexus 5 got faster with Lollipop and better with Marshmallow.
Only the manufacturers ruin it with their skins like TouchWiz, Sense and so on.
Google tested KitKat on a prototype Nexus 4 with only 512mb of RAM to make sure it would run on lower specced phones before it released it with the Nexus 5 which had 2gb of RAM.

 

[C DM]

Google's OS updates speeds up older phones. Older Nexus devices get faster when a newer version is released. The Nexus 5 got faster with Lollipop and better with Marshmallow.
Only the manufacturers ruin it with their skins like TouchWiz, Sense and so on.
Google tested KitKat on a prototype Nexus 4 with only 512mb of RAM to make sure it would run on lower specced phones before it released it with the Nexus 5 which had 2gb of RAM.

Not counting the fact that many phones don't even get those updates at all.

 

[Elisha]

Not counting the fact that many phones don't even get those updates at all.

Manufacturers are in the business of selling phones too like Apple. If they released a new version of Android that made their old hardware faster and better, the consumer would have no incentive to upgrade.

 

[dark_knight177]

Enjoy your Huawei phone. Make sure you get the extended warranty just in case it bends or the camera bar cracks.

Thanks, and you enjoy your Foxconn phone, which costs $209 to make. At least Nexus 6P costs more to build with thinner profit margins.

 

[Zwhaler]

Solution: don't be a sheep and upgrade your OS when you don't need the features. iPad mini 2 runs amazing on iOS 7. iPhone 4S runs amazing on iOS 7. iPhone 5 runs great on iOS 8. Deal with it.

 

[I7guy]

Thanks, and you enjoy your Foxconn phone, which costs $209 to make. At least Nexus 6P costs more to build with thinner profit margins.

Well it cost $209 to make if you order 50 million at a clip after you spend 10 billion (sic) in r and d. But there is a difference between what the parts cost and what the phone costs to make. The $209 in parts if that is even the case comes from billions in r and d. The reason the nexus costs more is the volume vs iPhone.

 

[dark_knight177]

after you spend 10 billion (sic) in r and d.

What? It doesn't cost Apple 10 billion to R&N a cellphone. That's how much it costs Russia to develop 5th generation stealth aircraft which by the way does a lot more than your 209$ cellphone