*Sigh* With the ever increasing disappearing of pay phones in schools.....It comes in handy to have even a prepaid cell phone..
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*Sigh* With the ever increasing disappearing of pay phones in schools.....It comes in handy to have even a prepaid cell phone..
give them a phone that dials 3 numbers: mom, dad, police. They want more, they work for it. My school had a ZERO tolerance policy concerning phones, and it still stands. From what I can tell, the students seem to be doing ok.
We don't want to hear about how you walked uphill in the snow. Times have changed. At the least it's a safety precaution, and you're far from qualified to determine what people feel will aid their children's safety. Moreover smart phones are tools. You sound like the type to limit everyone's computer usage simply under the pretext that someone might abuse it.
I am glad I go to college.
I never use my device to communicate during class, but it has saved my ass quite a few times, checking BlackBoard, doing an online test/quiz, or putting stuff into the calendar or notes app. It is a shame that high schools haven't gotten a hold of technology, and it is times to push k12 schools into the 21st century, and Apple is the right company to do that.
As for it being theft, I don't think so, it is like Valley Metro confiscating your bus pass for being bad on the bus. (I still have my pass, and I didn't do anything bad, the pass on the back however says they have the right to take it away from you and you lose your public transit rights). Keep in mind that people paid $160 for this pass.
College and high school contain two totally different mentalities of kids. College kids are considered adults, pretty much. Not all HS kids have adult mentalities, as some are 14-15 yrs old. Kids that young should be focusing on getting ready for college, not messing with phones. I agree that not all HS kids lack adult-like mentalities, but I do remember when I was in HS and how there are some idiots who always ruin it for the rest of the school. That's how it works now, too. Several asses that abuse the system can be blamed for the policies you now have in place.
At my work, we remove internet access from those who spend countless hours being unproductive (by surfing the 'net instead of doing their job). When kids in HS get their phones confiscated, it is usually because the phone has become a distraction, not because the system is putting 'the man' down.
You don't need cutting-edge technology to be educated. ALL students should know how to do all math (no matter the level) without aids such as calculators...the same applies for everything else in school and life. I don't see how a phone factors into this.
Kids don't need phones. And, yeah, anyone who's not yet reached college age is a kid, IMO (no offense).
You better believe as a parent I would be in to collect the iPhone, I pay a bill monthly on. I can't just turn it off until June. And you better believe the school would fork it over. Maybe not to the student, but the parent, Oh yes. Also If they kept it and my kid needed it and was in danger, you bet the school will be liable.
Except for the fact that most (if not all) school have pretty sctrict guidelines when it comes to cellular phone use...I'm sure your the kind of person that would be indigent airport security is taking your lighter that looks like a gun, or confused why you can't bring a knife into the courthouse. If you're stupid enough not to know or pay attention to clear rules, then it's your own damn fault.
read the thread, i dont care if the school takes it for the day, but to hold it until the end of the years is uncalled for as the cell phone is an important tool outside school hrs
to compare a cell phone to a weapons scenarios is bad logic
Well if those are the rules, those are the rules. There should be no discretion in the matter...
not all policies are legal
but as i said, id fight it if my child expereinced having his phone confiscated for the rest of the year as cell phones are a utility for families
I've got news for you. Minors don't have all the rights that adults do. And the courts have consistently supported letting schools place restrictions on students that employers and governments cannot enforce on workers or citizens.
Like it or not, the "no cellphone for the rest of the year" policy is probably legal. Draconian, for sure, but probably legal.
Like it or not, the "no cellphone for the rest of the year" policy is probably legal. Draconian, for sure, but probably legal.
most times, its the parents that own the cell phone and pay for the service and as such, esp in hs/middle school. the school would very likely be forced to give it back if the parents raised a ruckus
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Again, adult and kid = two different things. I think some here are getting too hyper. The teachers don't give a damn if it's an iPhone or not.
bbotte said:
Again, adult and kid = two different things. I think some here are getting too hyper. The teachers don't give a damn if it's an iPhone or not.
at that age, id wager the parents are the ones who pay for the cell phones and the plans and hence their device the school would be taking
if that is the case, the school would have a hard time convincing me they had a right to hold onto my phone
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That doesn't make sense. When is family business conducted? During class? No wonder there's problems with youths nowadays...
dukebound85 said:
That doesn't make sense. When is family business conducted? During class? No wonder there's problems with youths nowadays...
comeon lets use some logic here lol
if the phone is confiscated for the rest of the year, the kid has no access to it even outside of school hrs, the time the cell phone is truly only needed and is used for family business
i have no issue with them being taken during class, but to take it for the rest of the year is a problem with me
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I call BS. no school district would ever care to do this.
All school systems will discuss this with parents at the start of the school year. Parents generally understand the annoyances and disruptions cellphones cause in the classroom.
In our school district, teachers are allowed (as agreed to by parents/teachers/school board) to confiscate the phone and ONLY the parents are allowed to pick up the phone whenever they wish.
The hassle of a parent having to drive over to pick up the phone 99.99% of the time fixes the problem.
This applies to all gadgets. We had a student bring his parents vibrator (Yep) into class. The parents were called and had to pick up the item.
I call BS. no school district would ever care to do this.
All school systems will discuss this with parents at the start of the school year. Parents generally understand the annoyances and disruptions cellphones cause in the classroom.
In our school district, teachers are allowed (as agreed to by parents/teachers/school board) to confiscate the phone and ONLY the parents are allowed to pick up the phone whenever they wish.
The hassle of a parent having to drive over to pick up the phone 99.99% of the time fixes the problem.
This applies to all gadgets. We had a student bring his parents vibrator (Yep) into class. The parents were called and had to pick up the item.
That is awesome. What a great day to work in the school's office to witness that little visit!
anyone else find it odd that the OP hasn't commented on this? I am completely surprised that this thread made it to 71 posts!
Well, duh, it wouldn't be a deterrent if they got it back at the end of the day.
You're right, taking it away all year IS terrible. That's the POINT! It's not like the shcool wants the phone all year, they want it to be off during the day. They only way it works is if they threaten something really, really bad.
You want them to threaten something that's not too bad...what's the point?
if i bought the cellphone for my kid and pay the plan and need him to have a cell phone when outside of school, you bet the school will be giving it back to me as it MY property
there are other punishments than taking away a cell phone for the year
And you'll probably get the phone back.
And then your kid gets caught driving with 3 passengers in his car (which his temporary licence forbids) and he can't drive for a year. You'll be very inconvinienced that you have to drive him places. You'll complain that YOU bought the car he drives so he should be able to drive it. You'll say that a year is too long.
Guess what? The state DMV is not going to care. I'm glad that "bully the school into special treatment" is your plan, but that's not going to work with the government, his college, the police, or whoever else he eventually gets into trouble with. Your plan isn't going to help many places outside of high school.
Seems to me that if you raise your kid to follow these kind of rules, things will be much easier for you in the long run.
In Portugal the schools aren't as strict about cell phone use in school. Kids can have cell phones and use them in school. They shouldn't use them in class, specially with the sound on because it's disturbing. Some teachers don't allow cell phones during their classes and might take them away but only during that class and it has nothing to do with school policy. At least that's how things worked at my school. I don't know if things are different now and if other schools have different policies.
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