I just tested it. The is no full screen mode where only a picture is being displayed. Does this really bother you?
That's not a serious question, is it? That has always been one of the main reasons for me to use Aperture...
I just tested it. The is no full screen mode where only a picture is being displayed. Does this really bother you?
Yeah, so I guess the complaint is that this edit pane takes up too much space while actually in the process of editing photos. I can see that. Seems like Apple dropped the "UI" ball here.
full screen function... apple says it's so great, but they did it wrong! you were able to see photos fullscreen on a black screen, now you see user interface all around! a step backwards...
the problem is NOT the fullscreen mode that apple has created and in which the whole program can be run. the problem is the fullscreen mode that the program enters when you display one or more pictures at once. this is a mode that was totally black back in iphoto 11, but now it is cluttered with panels that can't be removed. if i want to see 3 pictures now to decide which one is the best, i have to share this task with 3 annoying other user interface elements. you can not see a photo without user interface! it simply isn't possible!
and please don't tell me that iphoto is not a professional program. it is! why am i forced to buy aperture, just because i want to see a photo without the user interface around? a fullscreen photo view is only possible when i buy a pro program like aperture? this is a strange strategy from apple. what's next? will they avoid you to install programs, unless you have the pro-mac osx?
Yeah, so I guess the complaint is that this edit pane takes up too much space while actually in the process of editing photos. I can see that. Seems like Apple dropped the "UI" ball here.
Regardless of your feelings on the new UI:
iPhoto=For home users who want a nice editing/archive app.
Aperture/Adobe LR=Professional image editing/archiving apps.
I get that there's not so much space on the screen for photos now but hey. Buy a bigger monitor or just use the old version. Anyone can see that apple is moving toward a fully touchscreen Mac interface, that's why the bars are so big. Don't like it? Don't upgrade. Uninstall it and use your old one. No one is forcing you to use it.
Can someone PLEASE post a screenshot of the new fullscreen mode? I am about to upgrade and don't want to make the biggest mistake of my life.
Thnx!
I would just be happy if I could start an iPhoto slideshow on a secondary monitor (e.g. a projector) without having to drag the main iPhoto window over there first. A bit of a pet peeve of mine considering how often I'm asked to do it.
That's not a serious question, is it? That has always been one of the main reasons for me to use Aperture...
After reading this thread, I can't help but feel that lots of the people unhappy with this new feature set either didn't bother to look at the apple website and see these things before buying and/or shouldn't really be using iPhoto anyway.
Dennis, you keep mentioning you have a two monitor set up and do full screen photo editing. That kind of set up is for someone that does photography full time. iPhoto is not the program for you if so. iPhoto and Adobe LR aren't comparable. Aperture and Adobe LR are. They are software for the higher end of the market. iPhoto is meant to be basic photo editing/archiving functionality that comes on every mac and caters to the 95th percentile. Personally, whilst using the old full screen iPhoto, those floating bars and boxes really bugged me. Having to move them around all the time to see certain parts of my photos. Then I got Aperture \9for lots of other reasons too!) and use that now. iPhoto=basic editing/archive. Aperture/Adobe LR=professional editing/archive (allowing plug-ins and integration with Photoshop etc).
It sounds to me like you expect iPhoto to do all your bidding when editing photos and whilst it's great at basic bidding, it's just not full featured enough to be using over a dual monitor display. Do you print the pictures any bigger than 8x10? If not, you don't need that extra detail anyway. Have you tried Aperture?
You actually use the slideshow feature? I was wondering who did...
Can someone PLEASE post a screenshot of the new fullscreen mode? I am about to upgrade and don't want to make the biggest mistake of my life.
Thnx!
I totally hear you! I do the same thing very often, show my daughter pics of our day trip, or a party, or what not, and you nailed it, the process is not clean at all, and with this update its getting more cumbersome, whereas it should have been improved, streamlined. One thought I have is that, for dual screen setup, where the projector is your second screen, try Lightroom (its a free trial), as LR is sensitive to dual screen setup, and both screens are highly customizable, so you could set both the presentation (projector) and home screens as you wish. I have not run slideshows extensively on it, but I think LR is much better equipped for this, and I am kind of upset that the newest iPhoto did not make much progress in that, more of the opposite in my view. To be fair, the way that iphoto 11 sends email photos may be cool, but overall I am disappointed, as I was hoping to be able to accomplish more with it, but now its the opposite, and with this update I am forced to be using other apps more.I work with a summer camp and one of our traditions is to take pictures of the kids throughout their camp session, and enjoy a slideshow on the final night of camp before the kids go home the next morning.
When I started out, the pictures were taken on 35mm film, and someone would drive into the nearest city to get them developed onto slides. We'd then insert them into the carousel and play them in an old Kodak projector. It was a slide show in the most literal sense.
My problem with iPhoto is that we go to all this trouble to present a slick looking slideshow with nice fading effects, but in order to get it started, I need to drag the iPhoto window from my laptop (primary screen) to the projector screen, then hit the Slideshow button, then hit the Start button, etc., all while my audience can see everything I'm doing on the big screen. It's not a big deal but it's not very seamless, and particularly counter to the elegance that you see everywhere else in the look and feel of Apple apps.
I've always felt the mark of a professional presentation is when you can show the audience only what they need to see. Imagine a Steve Jobs keynote where he said "let's watch the video" and someone drags a QuickTime player window onto the big screen and clicks the "play" button!
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html is the link you really want.
Not here. At http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html you have a nonzero expectation of complaint resulting in positive action. Venting your spleen on Jessica, or anyone else here, as if it is their fault, results in exactly zero, and zero = 0, difference.
One thought I have is that, for dual screen setup, where the projector is your second screen, try Lightroom (its a free trial), as LR is sensitive to dual screen setup, and both screens are highly customizable, so you could set both the presentation (projector) and home screens as you wish. I have not run slideshows extensively on it, but I think LR is much better equipped for this
Well, it doesn't bother me. If it bothers him, I can understand it. Aperture is better anyway!
Can someone PLEASE post a screenshot of the new fullscreen mode? I am about to upgrade and don't want to make the biggest mistake of my life.
Thnx!
Thanks, I'll check that out!
I have a few other options for slide shows that I'm going to investigate (e.g. to avoid having to spend more money on software). But I agree that it's too bad that iPhoto can't handle what I would have thought to be a fairly simple task.
Can someone PLEASE post a screenshot of the new fullscreen mode? I am about to upgrade and don't want to make the biggest mistake of my life.
Thnx!