iPod to be on Newsweek Cover

[Mainyehc]

i don't like how it has a music menu instead of playlists and browse. i like being able to choose between the two instead of just having music. and having shuffle songs right on the main menu is stupid since you can just go to settings and set that yourself.

I'm sorry but I totally disagree with you... I have a 3G 20GB iPod and, apart from the clickwheel, one of the main improvements in the software that I'd love to see was the ability of quickly turning on-off the Shuffle from the main menu, as the iPod doesn't have physical buttons to toggle that kind of features (and I don't want it to have any, so the main menu should replace them)... And besides, the main menu is customisable, so I guess you'll be able to remove the "Shuffle Songs" item, and put back the "Playlists" menu... I myself removed the "Backlight" item from my iPod's menu to save space, after all, you can toggle the backlight just by touching and holding the "menu" button
Now this "Shuffle Songs" item thing is really useful... It would be even better if the iPod had memory as far as the relation between shuffle and playlists is concerned, just like in iTunes. Playlist A plays in shuffle by default (e. g. a +4* rated songs playlist), Playlist B plays in regular order by default (e. g. a compilation)... That'd be sweet, but this is good enough. Now if only Apple released a software update for 3G iPods that enabled that "Shuffle Songs" option... But I know it's not gonna happen


A few more words on other features...

Battery life: kudos for Apple for fixing this... I love my iPod, it's battery is still alive and kickin' (I don't use it too much anyway, I'm a commuter but I don't want to risk getting my shiny iPod stolen... in Lisbon the iPod isn't all over the place yet, and besides, the underground isn't THAT safe ), but... I still miss my Sony MD Walkman rechargeable AA batteries, they lasted forever! As the iPod's battery isn't user replaceable (and thus, not easily interchangeable, for that matter), at least I wanted to recharge it the less often possible. So, Apple made a great job there!

Pricing: woooohooooo! Anyway, I'll try not to feel angry when I start seeing 4G iPods around, cheaper and better than mine... Perhaps I'll sell mine in the near future and get my hands on one of those if I just can't cope with it

The clickwheel: ABOUT TIME!! Enough said.

The lack of colours: Want some colour? Have your iPod painted, or buy a mini... White is just... Gorgeous! I love my 3G iPod, I love my iMac 17'', they just seem to have been made for each other... And I'm sure there are many out there who think the same way (yes, I'm hoping that Apple will also retain some white stuff in the upcoming iMac G5, if not most of its enclosure) By the way, is it just me, or this new clickwheel seems to have an aluminium finish? (perhaps the back of the iPod is made of anodized aluminum too? That would be nice, at least it wouldn't be a "scratch magnet" ) For those who want colour and a bigger HD, let's hope that Apple puts some bigger HDs in the minis, that'd be sweet too!

The lack of a colour screen/etc: Until Apple releases a true iPod AV, AS A SEPARATE PRODUCT (some sort of "Newton revisited", a PowerPod, who knows!), they better leave the iPod's underlying design alone... For music/style lovers, the iPod is just great as it is. Refinements throughout the years WILL keep the iPod alive, mark my words. Think of Sony's Walkman: how much has it evolved since it was invented, anyway? The media went from tape -> CD -> MD -> HiMD, HD, and it kept being shrunk, apart from being restyled every now and then, and suffering a lot of (mediocre, by Apple's standards) interface experiments. The iPod? Maybe one day we'll see flash-based iPods, maybe we'll even see a new kind of glove interface, with a 3D "virtual-scroll-wheel-gesture-operation", à la "Minority Report"... But then, we'd keep our 'Pods in our pockets, and we don't want that, do we? . Anyway, good, useful, music-related features are ALWAYS welcome. Yes, Line/Mic in would be great, as a "AM/FM/digital-radio/whatever" tuner would be nice too. Wireless streaming, to stereos, between iPods, all that stuff, bring it on! Playing photos/videos in a TV set through a video out? Maaaaybe... Colour screens? yes, please, but only after a quantum leap takes place in battery technology... Only after it's safe to make a hybrid between that "2hr battery life newton/swiss-army-knife-like thing" and the ubiquitous "great for music as well as a fashion accessory" iPod, get my point? Just my €0,02

 

[Doctor Q]

When the first Macs were introduced, the first thing I though was that if Fisher-Price made computers, that's exactly how they would look and act.

And that explains why the flat-screen iMac had a neck and no arms!

 

[evil0ne]

Jobs using a PC

I can't believe no mentioned Jobs using a PC in the Newsweek article.

The picture I'm talking about is:

 

[rock6079]

ipod service down..

well i ahve only a few days left on warrenty so wanted to get a new pair of headphones and when i went to applecare repair depot online i got this..

Sorry! The AppleCare support site feature you wish to access is temporarily unavailable.




English
We are currently upgrading our systems, and can not process your request at the moment. Apple apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.

français
Nos systèmes sont en cours de maintenance, et ne peuvent pas traiter les requêtes pour le moment. Apple présente ses excuses pour tout désagrement que cela peut causer.

Deutsch
Aufgrund von Wartungsarbeiten am System, können derzeit keine Reparaturaufträge entgegengenommen werden. Apple entschuldigt sich für etwaige Unannehmlickkeiten.

Español
Estamos actualizando nuestros sistemas y no podemos procesar solicitudes de servicio por el momento. Apple se disculpa por las molestias que esto les pueda causar.

Italiano
Stiamo attualmente aggiornando i nostri sistemi e non possiamo accettare le Vostre richieste service in questo momento. Apple si scusa per eventuali inconvenienti che questo potrebbe causare.

Svensk
För tillfället uppdaterar vi våra system och vi kan därför inte utföra några service förfrågningar. Apple ber om ursäkt för eventuella olägenheter som detta kan medföra.

 

[Doctor Q]

I can't believe no mentioned Jobs using a PC in the Newsweek article.

Is he getting a lesson because he can't figure out the interface?

 

[~Shard~]

Is he getting a lesson because he can't figure out the interface?

Either that or he needed help since the machine crashed and he didn't know what to do, since he has never experienced that with a Mac himself...

Or maybe he was concerned that his F9 key wasn't working properly to display Expose... there's a variety of possibilities...

 

[iMeowbot]

I can't believe no mentioned Jobs using a PC in the Newsweek article.

He was frequently seen using an old IBM ThinkPad running OpenStep before OS X was ready for prime time.

 

[paxtonandrew]

I have to agree with hkriffraff the pics of the new ipod dont look very apple like at all. I think, unless SJ and his peeps have some kinda trick up their sleeves, or wherever they keep their tricks, they may have mad a big mistake changing from the white wheel to the grey, it just doesnt work imo. As my learned friend above said, it doesnt blend with the case on a colour (YES coloUr - lets go aussies) level. Also is it just me or does the wheel look too small for the case. It could just be my afilliation with click wheel - mini but it just doesnt seem to work for me.

I've got a feeling aswell that SJ will have 'just one more thing' for us to see when he officially announces the unit! We can hope neway cant we? what this will be though ill be clueless for....but he'll have something.
But with wats been announced by MSNBC, battery life is totally welcome, but maybe not enough! Im totally sold on the battery life but i would have been thrilled if it had been something like 16 rather than 12. Other than that im totally happy, and thrilled there isnt ne mini colours. Keep the mini 4 the mini. Would b xtremely sexy if it is totally white i rekon.

As for me ill b in the line as soon as it becomes avaliable down under, which, fingers crossed, will be sometime before the next decade

Finally, it is good to see a fellow Aussie who knows how to spell. I have had to read and re read color before it makes any sense. Does anybody know how many Australians are actually on this forum?

Anyhow, back to the iPod, i think the new scroll wheel looks tacky, and the pure white face plate on the 3g iPods looks SO much better. I do hope the 3G iPods will get the firmware update like the 4g's. I am disappointed about the lack of a coloUr screen, but the coloUr will always remain white. Are the minis shipping here yet?

 

[OziMac]

Finally, it is good to see a fellow Aussie who knows how to spell. I have had to read and re read color before it makes any sense. Does anybody know how many Australians are actually on this forum?

Anyhow, back to the iPod, i think the new scroll wheel looks tacky, and the pure white face plate on the 3g iPods looks SO much better. I do hope the 3G iPods will get the firmware update like the 4g's. I am disappointed about the lack of a coloUr screen, but the coloUr will always remain white. Are the minis shipping here yet?

Mate, this site's called 'Macrumors' - no U. We've got to give and take a little I would suspect there are quite a few people from Australia here, but no more than there are people from the UK, Canada, Europe or any other particular region/country. Obviously more so from English-speaking parts of the world. Dwarfed by the number of US posters, but that's to be expected.

But there are a few regional forums for those of us from the 'lesser' (in Apple's eyes) territories...

I will agree to disagree with you on the 4g iPods though. I think the new interface and colour looks nice and the lack of a colour screen in no way hampers the enjoyment of the music pumped out of it.

The Minis are due to arrive on Friday

 

[topofthawoz]

The Minis are due to arrive on Friday

Yeah and for a price of AU$399 I mean ok we have a crap deal on mac comps down here, fair enough cos there isnt too big a market for them anyway, but for and ipod!?! i think that if they even dropped the price of the mini to $375 they would see much higher sales here.

Btw im an Aussie aswell! Oi Oi Oi......

 

[topofthawoz]

Anyhow, back to the iPod, i think the new scroll wheel looks tacky, and the pure white face plate on the 3g iPods looks SO much better. I do hope the 3G iPods will get the firmware update like the 4g's. I am disappointed about the lack of a coloUr screen, but the coloUr will always remain white.

I have to say though that the ipod on the front cover of newsweek looks tonnes better than the ipod here at, New iPod.
Maybe its the res. on this one but i rekon we need to wait until the announcement to make an educated judgment on this new addition to the family. My AU$0.02.....or in apple's book my AU$2 = US$0.02

 

[Coca-Cola]

Steve is helping the young talented performer(forgot her name) get her iPod working . She said she couldn't get hers to work during the iTunes Europe quicktime broadcast. I now see why she couldn't get hers to work. That is her PC.

 

[OziMac]

Yeah and for a price of AU$399 I mean ok we have a crap deal on mac comps down here, fair enough cos there isnt too big a market for them anyway, but for and ipod!?! i think that if they even dropped the price of the mini to $375 they would see much higher sales here.

Btw im an Aussie aswell! Oi Oi Oi......

Hmm, I think you're stretching a bit to say that that pricing is any more unreasonable than the US pricing when you do the conversions (assuming for example, that you're in New York with the 8.75% sales tax):

USD249 + USD22 = USD271 = AUD369.39 - so the premium here is $30, not exactly a huge difference in price. To expect them to charge $375, only a $6 premium to ship the items to Australia and through their satellite distribution chain here is a little unreasonable.

And as for higher sales, I think you're being a little presumptuous - they haven't even arrived yet and the first batch of Minis has already been gobbled up and the wait period for the next batch is up to 6 weeks - I don't think there's any lack of deman here by any means...

 

[rjwill246]

Finally, it is good to see a fellow Aussie who knows how to spell. coloUr screen, but the coloUr will always remain white.

I'm an Aussie and colour is really no more right than color, which is more logical, if not actually RIGHT! The correct spelling, since it is the source of the English word, is 'couleur'- yes, it's French. The Pommies corrupted the word and thus made any spelling of the word up for grabs with no one in the English speaking world being able to claim 'rightness.' I have learned to appreciate the efficiency of many American spellings, though logic would dictate a truly phonetic approach, so that English would be as predictable as Spanish, which wins the spelling/pronunciation battle hands down!
Nao wudn't that be nise!

 

[~Shard~]

I'm an Aussie and colour is really no more right than color, which is more logical, if not actually RIGHT! The correct spelling, since it is the source of the English word, is 'couleur'- yes, it's French. The Pommies corrupted the word and thus made any spelling of the word up for grabs with no one in the English speaking world being able to claim 'rightness.' I have learned to appreciate the efficiency of many American spellings, though logic would dictate a truly phonetic approach, so that English would be as predictable as Spanish, which wins the spelling/pronunciation battle hands down!
Nao wudn't that be nise!

Technically it's "colour" here in Canada as well, along with "honour", "armour", "neighbour", et al., but I never spell it that way - I always omit the "u"s. I'm indifferent when I see it either way, since I know what is being said. I suppose if you want to be picky and debate that one way is "more right" than the other though, go ahead, personally I couldn't be bothered...

 

[~Shard~]

Cool, that last post upped my ranking to the rare 65832 - I guess I better enjoy it as I only get about 5 posts at this ranking before moving on!

 

[OziMac]

I'm an Aussie and colour is really no more right than color, which is more logical, if not actually RIGHT! The correct spelling, since it is the source of the English word, is 'couleur'- yes, it's French. The Pommies corrupted the word and thus made any spelling of the word up for grabs with no one in the English speaking world being able to claim 'rightness.' I have learned to appreciate the efficiency of many American spellings, though logic would dictate a truly phonetic approach, so that English would be as predictable as Spanish, which wins the spelling/pronunciation battle hands down!
Nao wudn't that be nise!

Jeez, keep it down Germaine! Someone needs to take some happy pills! I don't think it really makes any difference whatsoever, and this dispute has no point - given that all spelling is an artificial means of communication, there really is no right spelling of anything in any language etc - it's post-modernism, it's Mabo, it's the vibe...

For the record, historically you're both wrong and right - the origin is not French, it goes right back to Latin and the US spelling actually accords with the Latin 'color' from which the modern word in English and French/other Romance languages is derived - not that there is necessarily any correlation.

 

[Stewie]

It says in one of the newsweek articles that its coming out this week guys...

Is that at all stores or just apple stores and online?

The only thing I saw in the artile on the new ipod was that

"The considerably tweaked fourth-generation iPod will roll out this week"

What the hell does roll out mean?

 

[OziMac]

The only thing I saw in the artile on the new ipod was that

"The considerably tweaked fourth-generation iPod will roll out this week"

What the hell does roll out mean?

Excellent question... I guess we won't know for a few hours, but we can only hope...

 

[paxtonandrew]

Jeez, keep it down Germaine! Someone needs to take some happy pills! I don't think it really makes any difference whatsoever, and this dispute has no point - given that all spelling is an artificial means of communication, there really is no right spelling of anything in any language etc - it's post-modernism, it's Mabo, it's the vibe...

For the record, historically you're both wrong and right - the origin is not French, it goes right back to Latin and the US spelling actually accords with the Latin 'color' from which the modern word in English and French/other Romance languages is derived - not that there is necessarily any correlation.

I'm sorry, i never meant to start a flaming match, but merely made a statement that i was still adjusting to the Americanisms and that yes, our spelling is different.

Regarding the iPod, we may be complaining about what is/isn't in the iPod today, but we all know that we will be happy with what Steve shows us on the release date (monday US Time), and that like the G5, we will all except it, and possibly like the mini, buy beyond the demand that Apple has already got stockpiled. The white colour scheme may carry on with the iMac G5? A color screen may happen, and the upgraded battery is a great plus, as i can only get about 4-6 hours out of my gen3 20Gb, so I may have to buy one.

 

[Squire]

I'm sorry, i never meant to start a flaming match, but merely made a statement that i was still adjusting to the Americanisms and that yes, our spelling is different.

Damn that Noah Webster, eh?

Squire

 

[OziMac]

Yeah, would be interesting to see what'll happen with the iMac G5 given the 4g iPod's looks...

Can't wait until the announcement, mainly to find out whether or not we'll be getting any here - always the way with Apple announcements, have to take everything with a grain of salt and allow a sufficient breadth of time for the product to arrive in your country and then in hands... but it's taking forever... damn this time difference!

 

[topofthawoz]

Hmm, I think you're stretching a bit to say that that pricing is any more unreasonable than the US pricing when you do the conversions (assuming for example, that you're in New York with the 8.75% sales tax):

USD249 + USD22 = USD271 = AUD369.39 - so the premium here is $30, not exactly a huge difference in price. To expect them to charge $375, only a $6 premium to ship the items to Australia and through their satellite distribution chain here is a little unreasonable.

And as for higher sales, I think you're being a little presumptuous - they haven't even arrived yet and the first batch of Minis has already been gobbled up and the wait period for the next batch is up to 6 weeks - I don't think there's any lack of deman here by any means...

Fair Point, the resellers and couriers and whoever else is involved in gettin it out of SJ's hands and into mine get a crap deal, and i agree that it will still be a huge hit over here as in the us, but i think they may have been able to totally dominate the market for the mini, had it been a fraction cheaper, you know how finniky us Aussies are with our money!

The only thing I saw in the artile on the new ipod was that

"The considerably tweaked fourth-generation iPod will roll out this week"

What the hell does roll out mean?

Bloody good close reading stewie, maybe they are going to, as others in this forum have suggested, make them avaliable very very soon to grap all the hype that they can create? Just a thought, and does ne1 know what time SJ and co usually make their announcements?

 

[smegdude]

Bloody good close reading stewie, maybe they are going to, as others in this forum have suggested, make them avaliable very very soon to grap all the hype that they can create? Just a thought, and does ne1 know what time SJ and co usually make their announcements?

its normally 9am pacific time that the apple online store etc updates and the new stuff is made available.

i'm gonna wait for that to happen then, if they are available immidiately, go straight to the nearest apple store and pick up one.

 

[topofthawoz]

its normally 9am pacific time that the apple online store etc updates and the new stuff is made available.

i'm gonna wait for that to happen then, if they are available immidiately, go straight to the nearest apple store and pick up one.

Cheers Dude