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troll. you can't even spell correctly.


hey guys, i know exactly what's going to be in the next ipod. it'll be something like the iphone and something like the current ipod touch. this info was obtained from my supplier in china, you know, the one with the sad workers.

Seriously? He's the one who first posted the front of the iPod touch G4, and even got to the front page of Macrumors...

Now who's trolling...
 
I wouldn't need anything unique over the iPhone. The touch is still great for people who do not want an iPhone (or ATT), do not want to pay for data services for a smartphone etc. I have an Android on Verizon but would love to have an iPod Touch even with similar features of the iPhone4g or less. My adult friends do not have data plans on their wireless service but have an iPod Touch to use for those apps and things. I think the new iPod touch will sell very well even if it does not have anything special over the 4G.

I definitely agree with your point (I myself have an iPod touch, which replaces my dead iP4). However, the problem is coming from Apple's financial economics model. The company needs to find something that would make the iPod touch stand out from the rest of the pack. If you look at music keynote last year at the Apple's Events website, the iPod touch (3rd generation, September 2009) was the number one mobile device in the world (even higher sales than the iPhone) and was praised. If Apple's newer products (iP4/iPad/iPod nano) are going to be killing the iPod touch, then they're going to have to come up with something extremely impressive, or else they'll lose sales/market audience. Certainly enough, mass-produced iPod touch sales are going to be considerable to Apple's profit evaluation model.

I suppose the Wow factor is in the games and apps, which most messenging cell phones do not have. Even if they have games and apps, there is no way that support is anywhere near as good as the app store is. Which is why I am hesitant to buy a competitor for the touch, the other companies promise support but don't really deliver (look at the Zune HD, which was supposed to get an Apple style App store with tons of apps). At that point you are plunking down $200-300 for a device that probably won't take off. Heck even sony has awful support for the PSP but it does have a sizeable games library at least.

Keep in mind this is only in my family, first the kids got the Nintendo DS, then abandoned it for the iPod touch, then they abandoned the touch for the cell phones that they get when they reach 12 or 13 years old. Most still use their touch's for apps and games though, but they aren't interested in getting a new one. I am simply citing an example of what kids do these days, though I suspect its not only my family that is going through this. Its interesting nonetheless.

The DS is gonna have a hard time surviving though, because pretty much everyone over 7 years old is just going straight for the touch now, especially if mom or dad hands down their old iPhone or old touch for them to use as a gaming machine.

Definitely see where you're coming from. The iPod touch is technically marketed towards a younger audience, being Apple's flagship mobile gaming device, but as the first quoted post indicates (from aznguyen316), it's also used by adults who love Apple's idea of the smartphone, but don't want to be stock to AT&T's commitment plans. Either way, this year's iPod touch MUST be impressive... but it's got such a large market that it's going to be taking away some light from the other upcoming iPods (small touch screen/etc.).
 
troll. you can't even spell correctly.


hey guys, i know exactly what's going to be in the next ipod. it'll be something like the iphone and something like the current ipod touch. this info was obtained from my supplier in china, you know, the one with the sad workers.

First off, what was spelled wrong? Secondly, he has better evidence than you. The face plate does seem rather convincing. I have been trying to think of alternative uses for this hole and can't. Finally, saying the next gen ipod will be somewhat like the current gen and the iphone is pretty pretty vague.
 
Me neither. Could it be anything else?

Aside from my light sensor idea (when given thought, that is false), a microphone wouldn't be placed in the center (or be that big). Unless it is some other new sensor (insert random ideas here), I guess I have to give this one to you. I'm pretty sure you're right and its a camera.

Also, to someone with an iphone 4. How does the size of your face time camera match up to this one? I think that would prove it if they were similar.
 
troll. you can't even spell correctly.


hey guys, i know exactly what's going to be in the next ipod. it'll be something like the iphone and something like the current ipod touch. this info was obtained from my supplier in china, you know, the one with the sad workers.

Obviously you don't know what a troll is. Http://www.theartoftrolling.com
you are a total idiot to say something like that. *respect loss*
 
I definitely agree with your point (I myself have an iPod touch, which replaces my dead iP4). However, the problem is coming from Apple's financial economics model. The company needs to find something that would make the iPod touch stand out from the rest of the pack. If you look at music keynote last year at the Apple's Events website, the iPod touch (3rd generation, September 2009) was the number one mobile device in the world (even higher sales than the iPhone) and was praised. If Apple's newer products (iP4/iPad/iPod nano) are going to be killing the iPod touch, then they're going to have to come up with something extremely impressive, or else they'll lose sales/market audience. Certainly enough, mass-produced iPod touch sales are going to be considerable to Apple's profit evaluation model.



Definitely see where you're coming from. The iPod touch is technically marketed towards a younger audience, being Apple's flagship mobile gaming device, but as the first quoted post indicates (from aznguyen316), it's also used by adults who love Apple's idea of the smartphone, but don't want to be stock to AT&T's commitment plans. Either way, this year's iPod touch MUST be impressive... but it's got such a large market that it's going to be taking away some light from the other upcoming iPods (small touch screen/etc.).

I agree the iPod touch has to be impressive this year, the 3DS is big competition, but IMO, offers less than the touch with more expensive games (I am looking for low priced games). And I am one of those adults looking to buy the touch so I can have access to the app store without expensive AT&T plans. There may also be competition from android and sony in the future too, so regardless they have to come out with something impressive. Since Apple only updates once a year they have to edge out what might come in the future coming months as well.

I have a DS, and other than cartridge games it offers nothing else even useful. The DSi is just weak in all other areas besides the cartridge games, and a lot of the games on DSi Ware are the same games in the app store just ports of them that cost more money than what they cost in the app store. I don't want to get into it too much but you also can't transfer games, they are stuck on your unit, so if you buy a new model or lose your DSi, you lose your games as well. With the app store its all on your account and you can re-download if something happens, though you will lose your save files, at least you won't lose what you paid for.

Apple also needs current touch users to upgrade, so they can get more sales, so they have to give current touch users something that is worth upgrading to. The 2 touch models on the market right now are basically the same thing with just slight enhancements to the 32/64Gb and less support for the 8GB. Its the same product to most people because they look the same.

On low priced games: Even if you seek out the best prices on DS games and resell them when you are done with them you are still losing money. More money than if you just purchased a $.99 or $1.99 game on the app store. Its also a lot of work to find the best price on a game and reselling can lead to problems. Most DS games (other than a handful, though that's a pretty large handful) are a largely forgettable experience, you play it, beat it and then forget about it so you want to resell it to get your money back. With the app store I can eliminate this and I also don't have the risk of getting a bootleg game and I won't have to deal with getting ripped off by Gamestop for used games any longer.
 
Also, to someone with an iphone 4. How does the size of your face time camera match up to this one? I think that would prove it if they were similar.
This is what i was about to ask. If theyre about the same size then it most likely is the VGA camera.
 
This is what i was about to ask. If theyre about the same size then it most likely is the VGA camera.

The front cam on the iP4 is quite small. I dare say it's smaller than the cutout in the picture. But, add a little bezel around it, and it appears about right.
 
I don't think it's even possible for someone to even have a tiny doubt whether or not a front cam will be there.

Steve jobs quote
leaked digitizers
email based facetime
it can fit in touch
it is a $1.00 component
apple's ideas about facetime
iPhone 4 has it
common sense
ahead of competitors

those should be enough reasons to stop any doubt.
 
I don't think it's even possible for someone to even have a tiny doubt whether or not a front cam will be there.

Steve jobs quote
leaked digitizers
email based facetime
it can fit in touch
it is a $1.00 component
apple's ideas about facetime
iPhone 4 has it
common sense
ahead of competitors

those should be enough reasons to stop any doubt.


Amen. good summary there!

I think both Facetime and the Retina display are two things that Apple wants to become established, as the standard, or the new standard in the case of the Retina display. Putting a Retina display on the Touch would certainly put any game device manufacturers that feel they are in competition with Apple in a tight spot.
 
I don't think it's even possible for someone to even have a tiny doubt whether or not a front cam will be there.

Steve jobs quote
leaked digitizers
email based facetime
it can fit in touch
it is a $1.00 component
apple's ideas about facetime
iPhone 4 has it
common sense
ahead of competitors

those should be enough reasons to stop any doubt.

Which Jobs quote are you referring to? I hope its not the "its impossible to fir a camera into such a small device" quote. :D
 
maybe it's just for the Ambient Light Sensor, not facetime camera

All of the touch-based iDevices have the Ambient Light Sensor, yet none need a hole for that compartment. The first-gen iPod touch had it too... no hole needed. Fit snugly under the glass digitizer.
 
All of the touch-based iDevices have the Ambient Light Sensor, yet none need a hole for that compartment. The first-gen iPod touch had it too... no hole needed. Fit snugly under the glass digitizer.

The front camera is well proven in my opinion. I can't (and nobody else for that matter) can give any other possible explanation of the hole, with the exception of a hoax. Though that seems unlikely.
 
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