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But I do get where you're coming from. On that front, Apple failed just slightly. Very little differentiates the iPad from the iPod Touch. Even though you all hate this term, it is just a big iPod. The only difference is its screens size and some UI tweaks. For it to be a "tablet", it needed to have been a hybrid between iOS and OS x. It should have also been released with a 128 GB option. I mean, for a device of its size, and for what it's meant for, anything less than 32 GB is really quite useless. You wouldn't be using it to its full potential...

You're correct, but...
The screen size is not a trivial detail; the iPad's processor is also specially designed and faster: 1 GHz v. 600 kHz (?) for iPod Touch and iPad battery life is another league.
In other words, iPad has got a productivity potential that is out of reach for the iPod Touch or the iPhone.
The iPod Touch is essentially for fun. iPad is both for fun and work.
 
Its time for Apple to ditch the ugly chrome backing.
**Stainless Steel
I personally like it, but it scratches WAY too easily.
Why do people keep thinking the new iPod touch will be anything other than iPhone 4 style? Yes it will have the retina display... it will be exactly the same specs as the iPhone4 except no PHONE.

I've even gone as far as predicting they'll drop the 64GB model to keep it from competing with the iPad.

Mark my words! :)

Oh, I will. And when the 4th generation iPod Touch comes out and you're wrong, I'll quote your post and this post in the thread. I like being right. Especially when I predicted a 27" iMac with a 2560x1600 display in June 2009, while everyone said I was wrong and it came true except it being 16:9 instead of 16:10 making it 2560x1440.
 
They should add 3G like the iPad! Now that would be SWEET!!!

While I shouldn't say never, the odds of that happening are lower than winning the lottery twice while being struck by lightning. That is WAY too close to the iphone. If you want 3G, get the iphone. Don't complain about the touch's lack there of.

**On a side note, I'm a regular now! :)
 
While I shouldn't say never, the odds of that happening are lower than winning the lottery twice while being struck by lightning. That is WAY too close to the iphone. If you want 3G, get the iphone. Don't complain about the touch's lack there of.

Well it still would be sweet. I'm not going to claim I know more more than Apple but I do know what I will buy. I have a Touch now and what I see developing is not going to make me buy another one. The deal breaker for me is it has to have GPS. If the GPS means it also has a 3G receiver like the iPad then that is even better. I can easily see being able to swap my iPad SIM between the two depending on my needs. So maybe if Apple comes out with the 7 inch iPad that will be what I get but not another touch with just a better but still small screen and a small camera. Apple has two ways to go here- continue with the Touch being a heavily crippled iPhone like device or redesign it to be more like an iPad. If they keep it like they have been doing then there is a real need for another device to step up and that would be the 7 inch iPad mini that is rumored. If I see that the Touch does not have a significant design change in September then I will know the iPad mini is coming and will wait for that.
 
YAwn.... Remember when Apple was a computer company? :(

Yes, absolutely. They should never have abandoned the original Mac--large color screens are nothing but a distraction. And it was portable enough! All these laptops and iDevices--who needs 'em?
 
Ive no doubt that the FT camera will come to the iPod Touch. Unfortunately I want an iPad with the same feature and will wait until next year and the iPad revision to include it no doubt. I really want the pad but it needs to have a few more features to warrant a purchase. But i admit it hard to resist that thing and buying t now.

Back on topic though and the iPod will no doubt have some really nice touches this year. Feel its only a matter of time before they stop producing the classic also. Does anybody actually buy those things?
 
They should add 3G like the iPad! Now that would be SWEET!!!

:D

As AWESOME as that would be, I feel that it would compete with the iPad too much (aside from obvious screen size)...they'd have to price it just right to not pull away from iPad sales

.02

EDIT: And yes, I would buy the iPod touch with 3G if they offered it...hands down...
 
I've just got a mifi (mobile wifi) dongle to go with this when it comes out. I wonder if maps/gps will work with it?
 
**Stainless Steel
Oh, I will. And when the 4th generation iPod Touch comes out and you're wrong, I'll quote your post and this post in the thread. I like being right. Especially when I predicted a 27" iMac with a 2560x1600 display in June 2009, while everyone said I was wrong and it came true except it being 16:9 instead of 16:10 making it 2560x1440.

o0o0o0 you predicted a screen size!!!! omg that makes you completely right about the new iPod touch!! I will only listen to your opinio..... I mean facts from now on!! Lifesaver!!
 
If a FaceTime cam makes its way to the base model touch this September, then I will be happy. I would prefer a rear camera more though.
 
Wow. Over 100 posts in one day.... It just looks too small for a facetime camera, but what else could it be?
 
It is just a concept design , so everything it's possible.



(sorry for my english mistakes iam writing from Poland )

Yes I know it is just a concept. I'm just saying it would obviously need to take into account the size of the camera module.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/963295/

They could make it 7mm and probably be fine!

Ummm, wheres your magical 5mp camera coming from, no way the touch will get that. if you think so, i have a bridge in brooklyn you might be interested in.

Obviously I don't know for certain, but I could give you several good reasons why the iPod Touch could get the same 5 mp camera that is in iPhone 4.

Let's hear any reasons you have as to why that is so unlikely??? :rolleyes:
 
I sure hope Apple puts in a rear camera. I don't think they should jump to 5MP just yet, a 3.2MP cam is just fine for me.
 
Even 3.2MP would be impressive to fit in the small space available, although unfortunately, I doubt the presence of the rear camera as much as I want it.

Anyhow, all this FaceTime talk means that the iPod's going to also be getting another high demand add-on: microphone. Apple is highly unlikely to force customers to put on the earphones with mic for using FaceTime as it is cheap to add on a microphone (component-wise for them). This also means easier to record voice memos/lectures, and "speakerphoned" Skype, which would be similar to the FaceTime experience. Yet all this means that to be able to listen to the proper voice quality of your FaceTime friends, Apple's going to need to do something else as well: enhance and improve the speaker that has existed since the 2nd gen.

Another note: the iPod touch is Apple's flagship mobile gaming platform (as claimed by Apple and portrayed through their advertisements)... so in addition to the bumped up performance (A4) and graphics (Retina), Apple MUST be adding in the Gyroscope, since this is a BIGGIE for games, and location-based social media (e.g. Yelp) on WiFi.

All this means that the iPod will be more similar to the iPhone than ever before.... things that it won't have will probably vary from Phone, Messages, Camera (maybe yes, maybe no), and GPS. Otherwise, it's an iPhone. WELL... someone's going to have an app for a camera if Apple doesn't (with the VGA front-facing FaceTime cam)... so that issue's almost covered. Phone and Messages - Pinger's textfree will take care of this, with free voIP calling with a phone number. Multitasking on iOS4 will mean that you'll always get calls. PLUS, GPS is already available with maps as "assisted location services"... so congrats... you have an iPhone on WiFi!

Here's the biggie though: Apple's either going to extremely impress with the listed features above (we're bringing this and this from the iP4 to the iPod!!!!) and maybe even more (a camera), or it may disappoint like the 3rd generation iPod touch with few updates (come on... Voice Control... after a year? That's all?) ... or it may be somewhat satisfying... being somewhere in between!

We'll see sooner than later since the event may "actually" occur later this month!
 
Here's the biggie though: Apple's either going to extremely impress with the listed features above (we're bringing this and this from the iP4 to the iPod!!!!) and maybe even more (a camera), or it may disappoint like the 3rd generation iPod touch with few updates (come on... Voice Control... after a year? That's all?) ... or it may be somewhat satisfying... being somewhere in between!

Well, that is assured since it covers every possible option :)

Despite the fact that the "facetime hole" was in that part (and I can't find any explanation aside from a hoax), I remain skeptical about the inclusion of one or two cameras. I hope I'm proven wrong, but it seems unlikely to me that the ipod touch will get any camera (of good quality) since the size is so thin. A VGA camera may be thin enough, but a 3.2 MP or 5 MP? Personally, I want the thickness increased as it feels awkward from the size and that space could be used for the camera everyone wants so badly.
 
Well, that is assured since it covers every possible option :)

Despite the fact that the "facetime hole" was in that part (and I can't find any explanation aside from a hoax), I remain skeptical about the inclusion of one or two cameras. I hope I'm proven wrong, but it seems unlikely to me that the ipod touch will get any camera (of good quality) since the size is so thin. A VGA camera may be thin enough, but a 3.2 MP or 5 MP? Personally, I want the thickness increased as it feels awkward from the size and that space could be used for the camera everyone wants so badly.

Good point! Though even if it's a hoax... what's all the other talk which is actually confirmed... with regards to FaceTiming using Apple ID/email--since iOS4.1 which the new iPod will probably launch on in coordination with the iPad? That gives away another "clue", or possibility.
 
They should add 3G like the iPad! Now that would be SWEET!!!:D

I don't think this will ever happen for the iPod Touch. I would also be surprised if we see a camera with more than 3.2 MP. People who want better quality photos will just use a regular digital camera. The cameras on cell phones are mainly for convenience.
 
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