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Are we expecting an A12 in a 4 inch screen?

That just seems kinda weird.
I honestly believe it will use the iPhone X design or at the least have a 4.7 screen. I don't see them being able to put any more power into the current chassis.
[doublepost=1553030207][/doublepost]I would assume we will see a promotion of both AirPods 2 and the new touch. I expect them to release the new iPods tomorrow. Same with AP2.
 
Oh no I expect it to get the A12. What I meant was if there could be an increase in power draw from the A8 to A9 (and anything newer) along with any new components and if it could overpower the chip optimizations they've made since then.

I don't expect that. I am expecting it to get an A10 or A11. If you look to the iPads, the Air and Mini have the A12, but the iPad has an older generation CPU to keep the cost extra low. The extra low cost has been a huge selling point fo the iPad. And they still need those older A-series chips for other devices going forward. As it stands, HomePod and AppleTV use A8 if my memory serves, but future iterations would move up a chip or two and centering around A10 or A111 would make sense. In fact, my money is on A10. I believe a variant of the A10 is found in the T2 chips on Macs (running BridgeOS on TouchBar Macs) and so Apple needs to maintain stock of those chips so bulk economics would make it a good choice for cost sensitive devices.

The newer chips may be able to pull higher peak power draw, but their overall power draw for a specified workload should be significantly lower. The law of chip design is lower manufacturing nodes will let you do work faster, or do work at the same amount of time but consuming less power. If you don't need the extra power, you save on battery draw.
Of course chip architecture matters immensely for power draw as well and it's not just manufacturing nodes, but Apple hasn't regressed on that front either.

I think the reduced process size helps reduce power draw, the A8 in the current 6th gen is also under-clocked very slightly (1.1Ghz rather than 1.4 in the iPhones) so they might do the same for the 7th gen to help it not empty it's battery in moments.

Exactly. Underclocking could both help keep thermals low in a more restrictive chassis and keep battery draw low for sustained performance tasks.
 
I don't expect that. I am expecting it to get an A10 or A11. If you look to the iPads, the Air and Mini have the A12, but the iPad has an older generation CPU to keep the cost extra low. The extra low cost has been a huge selling point fo the iPad. And they still need those older A-series chips for other devices going forward. As it stands, HomePod and AppleTV use A8 if my memory serves, but future iterations would move up a chip or two and centering around A10 or A111 would make sense. In fact, my money is on A10. I believe a variant of the A10 is found in the T2 chips on Macs (running BridgeOS on TouchBar Macs) and so Apple needs to maintain stock of those chips so bulk economics would make it a good choice for cost sensitive devices.

The newer chips may be able to pull higher peak power draw, but their overall power draw for a specified workload should be significantly lower. The law of chip design is lower manufacturing nodes will let you do work faster, or do work at the same amount of time but consuming less power. If you don't need the extra power, you save on battery draw.
Of course chip architecture matters immensely for power draw as well and it's not just manufacturing nodes, but Apple hasn't regressed on that front either.



Exactly. Underclocking could both help keep thermals low in a more restrictive chassis and keep battery draw low for sustained performance tasks.
The A10 chip is 2 generations/2 and a half years old, I'm thinking that's too far even for Apple. Especially on a device they don't update for almost 4 years. :D Could see it if they plan on an update sooner than that I suppose.

As for the A11, I feel like it's too similar to the A12 to bother with. They currently have a bulk of five A12 devices (not counting the iPad Pros) so I'd assume there would be some savings there. I do see your point about the 2018 iPad though, it would be in a strange(r) position. And it would cannibalize the iPad Air with any upgrades.
 
The A10 chip is 2 generations/2 and a half years old, I'm thinking that's too far even for Apple. Especially on a device they don't update for almost 4 years. :D Could see it if they plan on an update sooner than that I suppose.

As for the A11, I feel like it's too similar to the A12 to bother with. They currently have a bulk of five A12 devices (not counting the iPad Pros) so I'd assume there would be some savings there. I do see your point about the 2018 iPad though, it would be in a strange(r) position. And it would cannibalize the iPad Air with any upgrades.
We might go back to 2013-2015 where there was no device just called iPad. the Air will take the place of the current iPad, just as was the case almost 6 years ago...
 
We might go back to 2013-2015 where there was no device just called iPad. the Air will take the place of the current iPad, just as was the case almost 6 years ago...
I just find it strange that they didn't discontinue or update it. Maybe they'll address it alongside with the Pros.
 
The only way I'd buy a new one is if it is much thicker and heavier, due to a substantial increase in the battery capacity. The 6th generation was the worst Apple product I've ever seen with a laughable battery life.

After struggling with the 6G for a couple years I got rid of it. Instead, I am using my old 5G as a bedside internet radio. Its slow as molasses, but works. Have moved every other use of the iPod over to my iPhone.
 
Darn, was really hoping for an announcement today. Seems all the announcements so far this week have been around 530am pst. I guess hopefully tomorrow. And if not tomorrow, maybe Friday. If not Friday, maybe at the event. If not at the event or immediately after, I have no idea.
 
Upset that there was no release today. Hopefully it is announced tomorrow or on Friday. I doubt they will show any hardware at the event. Perhaps a redesigned touch will be released in the future, but to be honest I think if it does not come out this week it is the beginning of the end for the iPod touch.
 
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If there ever will be an iPod touch 7th gen, it will come out tomorrow or Friday. I'm leaning towards tomorrow because I think AirPower is coming Friday.

I hope it’s today, I want to get one for my little niece for her birthday. And I wouldn’t mind one as well haha fingers crossed
 
Hmm looks like nothing new announced so far today. I thought there’d be an AirPower announcement by now if not iPods. Now I’m thinking airpower will be launched at the event or immediately after. Maybe iPods then too. If not, I guess at some other random time this spring. But I think rumors for this spring were too strong to disregard until spring actually comes close to passing.
 
Looks like all the rumours in this case were just that... rumours. RIP beloved iPod Touch. :(
I'd wait until it disappears from the site with no replacement before giving up. With the code in iOS 12.2 referencing it, it's still very likely to appear at some point.
 
I think you’re jumping the gun, but I suppose we’ll see.
I agree we might still see an update, but I am on the verge of buying a Fiio, the rumor made me hold a little longer, if next week we do not see an iPod update, I will have to buy something else :(

Too bad, really want a new iPod.
 
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