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Who else thinks that the iPod touch and the iPhone are exactly the same hardware with only a firmware change to disable features? I think its very likely. Its probably cheaper for apple to produce only one version of the hardware rather than redesign the thing. I know video card companies do this all the time. If this is so it leads to the possibility of unlocking the phone capabilities with some software/hardware modifications.

umm no. its way thinner than iphone and its a waste of money and space to place all the extra components into the ipod touch.
 
I forgot about contacts, all the iPods have this.

And a calendar would be excellent, with notes to sync to iCal.
 
Doesn't it have calendar and contacts?

Chill people! The iPod Touch clearly does have Calendar and Contacts, else it'd have less functionality than a 3rd gen iPod!

iPod Touch
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iPhone:
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The missing apps are stocks, weather, mail, SMS, and maps. Camera as well, but clearly that app won't work without a built-in camera that Apple has chosen to not include on the iPod Touch.
 
Mail would be sweet. But as other people are saying here, we can check our mail through safari, but can we use the touch keyboard to create/ respond to that mail? I'm sorry if my question sounds naive or stupid, but I can't figured it out -- may need more coffee.

You can use the keyboard to enter text in any web form field. If the web form sends emails then yes.
 
I think there is no microphone on the iTouch for a very simple reason.

Apple knows damn well that if there is a mic sooner or later someone is going to make Skype or something similar work on the iTouch and uh oh... hey look its a wifi phone.
 
Time to tackle 3 things:

3) Home on iPod.
You will see Home on iPod as was originally introduced 2 years ago, roughly about the time of this technology development. See any coincidences? This rumor will come to fruition. The eye candy to accompany it and the interface could be really, really sweet. Of course so would more memory...

Home on ipod is a freature i've been waiting for since it first surfaced years ago. But 8GB and 16GB seem very prohibitive. This would definately be nice. Next year when 32GB becomes significantly cheaper, especially at the quantity apple orders nand chips, i think this will be very likely.
 
But that is not the best way to check you mail, do you use webmail on your desktop, I think not!


I'd say that the average person is more likely to check hotmail, yahoo and GMail than have Outlook Express or Mail configured...
 
Apple still makes computers

Seems that as of now, Apple computers is back by a different name. Now all they make are "things" that run OSX. It it has a CPU, it is a computer. You can nickpick if you want, but it has a CPU, has memory, a storage system, input device, and has 1-3 output devices (wifi, screen, speaker).

You have Macs and other computer devices used for music and or phone.

They are computers.
 
SDK needed

Well,

The iPod Touch cannot have a rogue 3rd party application that takes down AT + T's west coast network, which Jobs suggested as one reason for not having a 3rd party SDK for the iPhone. Thus... why not release a SDK for the iPod touch?
 
I'd say that the average person is more likely to check hotmail, yahoo and GMail than have Outlook Express or Mail configured...

You can, however, set up the Mail client to check all of the above and have the app ping you when you get a wifi connection of new emails. A great feature to have included for sure.
 
Hey, i was just wondering do you think people will be able to AIM and Yahoo instant messenger? I also wish it had blue tooth so we could eventually use cord less head phones.
 
I'd say that the average person is more likely to check hotmail, yahoo and GMail than have Outlook Express or Mail configured...

Fair point I suppose, but apple is all about pushing it's own solutions ie. .Mac therefore I would excepect Mail to be there for that... Lets hope there is a 3rd party app or better still the iPhone app.
 
What a joke, how could it not have Mail? Very lame Apple, very lame!

Because it's a friggen iPod! Me, I just happy that made a 160GB iPod to hold tons of tunes. . "Its the Music stupid."

And before you get all offended: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid
 
I think there is no microphone on the iTouch for a very simple reason.

Apple knows damn well that if there is a mic sooner or later someone is going to make Skype or something similar work on the iTouch and uh oh... hey look its a wifi phone.

Uh oh, that's exactly what I want! The faster I can get rid of my cell phone and switch to a full featured wifi phone the better. Apple has the tech (ipodT/iPhone) and the software (iChat) to do all of this already. They have an entire market segment they can create overnight with it. Something tells me it's their stupid agreement with ATT that's limiting them from pulling the trigger. :mad:
 
i don't understand why people are complaining about the lack of apps on the ipod touch. it seems pretty obvious that within a couple weeks of them hitting the streets someone will have hacked them to put any apps you want on them.

i swear.. by reading this board you would think that apple had never done anything right in its entire history. sheesh..
 
somebody build a skype application for the ipod touch and get a imic or something and you got the greatest wifi phone device yet.
 
I have not bought an Apple product going on three years now.
Just waiting for my Powebook to give up, before buying a new laptop.

The iPod Touch does have my attention though.
I would like to know if I can use it at home using Airport Extreme?

Like others I see benefits of entering calendar & contact info.
But hopefully we will get an early Christamas present and they will make Mail available.
 
Because it's a friggen iPod!

There's no reason why Touch can't have email.. its the same platform.

Apple, could make the Touch into a well supported 3rd party dev device, and a killer one at that... and expand that on to the iPhone.

Sigh, but I doubt they will.. a huge opportunity lost.
 
I can't understand the missing mail app on the iPod touch, what is the most likely thing you would do in a WiFi hotspot, check you email!

Let's hope they add this feature, Mail and iChat in a WiFi hotspot would be cool!

It is an iPod and a communicator, so I see your point. It is a mater of time before someone hacks it to do VOIP and then AT&T is in trouble.

Unless you are one of the ones objecting to switching to AT&T, why not get an iPhone and have all the capabilities in a single device?

Good bye Batman bright yellow utility belt for all my devices. One device to rule them all, one device to bind them .....
 
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hmmm just wondering...

The iPod has always had Disk Mode, right? And seeing as how it would be a little hard to overload the ATT network when there is no cellular chip on the iPhone, wouldn't Disk Mode show everybody the exact Touch OS X operating system files and make it much easier to create apps for it? I mean seriously, who ever heard of a locked MP3 player?

Oh yeah and Disk Mode would probably be mucho easy to add apps to the iPodT... I don't think you guys have anything to worry about.
 
Well,

The iPod Touch cannot have a rogue 3rd party application that takes down AT + T's west coast network, which Jobs suggested as one reason for not having a 3rd party SDK for the iPhone. Thus... why not release a SDK for the iPod touch?

Because it's the exact same OS. It would work with the iPhone as well. Everyone knows that excuse Steve gave was BS. There are plenty of smartphones with third party apps that do not take down entire networks.
 
You can use the keyboard to enter text in any web form field. If the web form sends emails then yes.
Thanks EagerDragon -- then it looks pretty cool to me.
And by the way, about cosmetics: I love the design of the touch, I think it looks even more 'elegant' than the iPhone.
 
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