On Friday, they are going to announce that the $399 iPhone is bumped to 16GB. Then they'll give away free iPod Shuffles to everyone who bought a $399 8GB iPhone in the last 2 days, to make up for it.
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On Friday, they are going to announce that the $399 iPhone is bumped to 16GB. Then they'll give away free iPod Shuffles to everyone who bought a $399 8GB iPhone in the last 2 days, to make up for it.
Okay, now I am officially the biggest idiot around. I have a video iPod and have no idea how to operate the playlist-on-the-go function (meaning I can make a playlist from the iPod itself). Could someone please quickly enlighten me?
I just thought about your comment, and surly the average user doesn't have a WiFi hotspot account or maybe even knowledge of their existence. This would of course back the reason why it doesn't have the app, but then it negates the web browser too!
Although I've never used it, I found how to do it. Highlight a song, artist, genre, or playlist and press the center button for 3 seconds until the title flashes. This will save it to the on-the-go playlist. To save the playlist, select the playlist and select 'Save Playlist'.
LOL, it's a pretty nice feature too. Consider it like you just got a cool firmware upgrade-
Get a jump on future products with similar features and lock-in users now?
Lots of companies are planning "iPhone-type" products based on the success of the iPhone itself. By knocking the price down now, you get more of those folks to buy iPhones now and deny those sales to your competitors later, especially since cellphone contracts (in the US) are neither easy or cheap to break. So even if Nokia comes out in December with a $599 128GB flash GSM cellphone with a 4" touchscreen that "only" works with T-Mobile on a two year contract, precious few of those iPhone buyers are going to scap their $400 phones plus the cancellation fee to AT&T to then buy the Nokia phone and enter into a two year contract with them. But if those users were on the fence about the iPhone because of the $599 price and had not yet committed, the second Nokia comes out with that phone, they're gonna land almost every single sale and eschew the iPhone. And even if Apple then dropped the iPhone's price to $299, most would still eschew the iPhone because the Nokia offered so much more.
Now yes, I'm using a (likely) extreme example here, but even if the other companies just match the iPhone's capabilities and functionality at a similar (or even cheaper) price point (then $599), that's going to deny Apple some sales.
I prefer the stability of Apple's hardware releases, but that's because Apple tends not to "low-ball config" their products to meet a low price point and therefore said equipment does not obsolesce nearly as fast.
I'm looking forward to see where this takes us. Very promising indeed.
I'm a little put off by the lack of a2dp on iphone with bluetooth (for stereo headphone support) but at least there's a chance it can happen. If there's no BT then no chance. Shame, for an iPod that's a major omission.
Possibly to stop people making it a wi-fi phone.
I'm a little put off by the lack of a2dp on iphone with bluetooth (for stereo headphone support) but at least there's a chance it can happen. If there's no BT then no chance. Shame, for an iPod that's a major omission.
Possibly to stop people making it a wi-fi phone.
The german site had a BT icon near the battery. I wonder that by the end of the month the iTouch will officially get BT and a few other Apps (Notes?). Else they wont see BT enabled after release because of Sarbanes-Oxley.
What?
SAY WHAT? The average user doesn't have knowledge of the existence of Wifi hotspots? Do you know how many households have a home WLAN network? I would guess > 95% of the "average users" of an Ipod touch/Iphone indeed understands the concept and intends to use a Wifi hotspot for net access.
Unless of course you are positing that said users don't know of the existence of CERTAIN hotspots and their location --- well in that case you just weren't being very clear about it
SAY WHAT? The average user doesn't have knowledge of the existence of Wifi hotspots? Do you know how many households have a home WLAN network? I would guess > 95% of the "average users" of an Ipod touch/Iphone indeed understands the concept and intends to use a Wifi hotspot for net access.
Unless of course you are positing that said users don't know of the existence of CERTAIN hotspots and their location --- well in that case you just weren't being very clear about it
We need someone to take a Touch apart and find out what the situation is
.3 weeks to go.
Strangely to some people it's so close between an iPhone (depending on O2's deal and it being 16GB) and a Touch for me that BT is a feature that could swing it for me.
ITouch Internet ie Safari service help!!
I am interested in a new Itouch but I'm concerned on the itouch internet using safari, in that I am a current macbook user wuth internet connection as of present day and time, I have charter highspeed internet wifi, question is this when you buy the new iTouch in that you have to sign up for internet service again or you can connect to your existing internet provider? Someone please let me know. thanx, robert
I am interested in a new Itouch but I'm concerned on the itouch internet using safari, in that I am a current macbook user wuth internet connection as of present day and time, I have charter highspeed internet wifi, question is this when you buy the new iTouch in that you have to sign up for internet service again or you can connect to your existing internet provider? Someone please let me know. thanx, robert
One extra thing that appears trivial at first, but suggests significant manufacturing differences between the iPhone and iPod Touch:
--While they both have a 480x320 screen, the iphone is 160 pixels per inch while the iPod touch is 163 pixels per inch.
Obviously, they use different parts for the screen as well as the body and everything listed above. In fact, there is probably more different hardware than there is similar between the two devices.
There's got to be an element of subsidization on a 399 iPhone I'd say. At least at this point. As it gets older it'll get cheaper to make.
SAY WHAT? The average user doesn't have knowledge of the existence of Wifi hotspots? Do you know how many households have a home WLAN network? I would guess > 95% of the "average users" of an Ipod touch/Iphone indeed understands the concept and intends to use a Wifi hotspot for net access.
Unless of course you are positing that said users don't know of the existence of CERTAIN hotspots and their location --- well in that case you just weren't being very clear about it
That is what I meant in part yes, but also my wife for example, she knows about WiFi but if she got an iPod touch (which she wants) it's because it's cool and I doubt she'd ever even turn the WiFi on let alone pay for access away from home.
I think the main reason Apple slashed the iPhone price, was just what SJ said it was-- an aggressive move to garner a large(r) share of the phone market... the entire phone market, not just the smart phone segment. Doing this now, instead of, say, Jan-Feb, gives great sales potential for the holiday season and the business budget cycle for the new year.
Apple risks some early-adapter dissatisfaction (since mitigated) and some "told-you-it-wouldn't-sell-at-that-price" ridicule...
in return Apple gets a fantastic opportunity to gain a significant share of the market, larger customer base, and earlier profits/ROI.
The opportunity is there... the time is now... great move!
Wm Shakespeare said it best:
"There is a tide in the affairs of men, Which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries. On such a full sea are we now afloat. And we must take the current when it serves, or lose our ventures. "
Not when crackbucks ahh starbucks is partnered with a unique music store application. Everytime i go in there (ok every morning) it is full of laptops, and ladies talking and looking at the cd's they sell.
This isn't a windows mobile phone with Wifi. It's made by apple, it'll be a cinch to use when it even sniffs a wifi hotspot. Your wife will be all over it.
Apple approves what songs and artists go on iTunes. They even have blessed partner-customers that do it for them on small publishers.
Why not shift that model to iPhone and iTouch and charge a 10-20% download fee for blessed software sales.
Blessed music, movies, games, podcasts and ringtones are not erased on updates. All it needs is a blessing server for apps and a blessed app list in iTunes.
Rocketman
I have a question does the Itunes in iTouch have feature to subscribe to podcast or get some podcast?
I don't particularly want ANY company to decide what is 'blessed' to be on my iPhone.
If it's one way to get apps and data on my iPhone, fine. But if it's the only way? No deal.
Apple's already seeming a bit to restrictive lately (7.4 removing non-iTunes ringtones, for example) for my tastes. I know it's mostly the music companies playing hardball, but Apple's getting a bit too hungry for controlling things for my tastes.
Why shouldn't a user be able to record his brat saying 'gogo gaga' and using if for his ringtone/mail sound/sms sound/etc?
People this is an Apple Rev A device. I would HIGHLY recommend not buying it unless you want to be ripped off.
Do you think Apple came up with this product, had it designed, manufactured, and tested all within the last 2 months since the iPhone debuted? Obviously not. It's no secret that Apple was obviously planning the price reduction from day one. There's no component price fluctuation that could even come close to making up $200 worth of parts that drop in price in 2 months. None.
Apple took a very shady route and voluntarily ripped all of the early iPhone adopters and BEST MARKETERS they could have ever wished for. Here's the thing::
This thing has a max hard disk of 16 GB. They already dropped the smaller iPhone with good reason after only 2 months. 16 GB isn't much more when compared to other ipod-ish devices available now. Check out the newest Archos model for example. Sure, the interface isn't as good, but the space is exponentially larger. There's no doubt that Apple will dump this rev A version within a couple months max [again] and release a bigger version. 2-3 months from now and the iPhone is due for an actual physical upgrade if they want to stay competitive. 16 GB for a music & video player is atrocious for near-2008.
What happens then? Well, you will be screwed and PO'd like the iPhone buyers here. And again I'm not talking about normal product evolution and a normal pricing fluctuation. Apple has shown its core users a disgusting side of their quest for money. Mr. Jobs already said there will be No refunds for iPhone buyers. So even if that wasn't part of their original plan, it surely got a massive amount of negative media attention, yet when he had the chance to fix it even a bit [come on, even a $25 iTunes gift card would have sent a goodwill message to their users], he flat out poops on your face.
I'm not saying in any shape or form that products can't evolve and be marketed greatly. I am positive that this is a marketing and management blunder of unheard proportions for Apple fans. If you buy now, you will be sorry. There is no question of that.
A $100 refund was announced today, so much for no refunds, just facts please
I agree about not liking a company telling me what I can and cannot have on my device. But in a tech support standpoint it really makes things easy when you call them with a problem and have no 3rd party apps on there. They know basically what they have to run through to get you fixed up quickly. I am sure once the "new" wears off of the iPhone and iPod Touch they will open it up to 3rd party apps. They just need to get the bugs worked out of it and then it will probably be opened up for everyone to start developing apps for it.
Christopher
You can buy a mic for an Ipod. There are already three avilable. here is a review.
Will these work with iPod touch? Don't know but I assume they would and if
they don't work they will soon.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2007/05/18/ipod-mic-shootout.html