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MacBook is more portable than the MacBook Pro. :p

Having owned both, and traveled the world with both, I personally find my MBP 15" to be more "portable" then the MB. It just feels lighter (even if it isn't) and the greater power and flexibility means I don't need to carry as many accessories with me, which results in a lighter load.

MBA is the most portable then.

In terms of it's own weight, yes. But you may need to carry more accessories to make it usable (DVI dongle, Ethernet Dongle, USB hub, SuperDrive). And that all adds up in weight and space in the bag.
 
Keyboard in the new MBP will be the MBA backlit keyboard for consistency across models (and it's cheaper)

Trick is, it's not $1000. It's $500. Now that's not chump change, but as noted, you do get:
a better (IMO) keyboard,
 
If they can squash them into a MacBook at no extra cost, then sure, but that does blurs the line between the models and shorten the exclusive feature list of "higher end" products, so I'd hope they too either see new tweaks or their pricetags are lowered as a result.
Then the answer is to make the MacBook Pro even better, not to cripple the MacBook.

Turns out, they're actually getting cheaper. Or rather, they're constantly offering more each revision for the same price. So I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
Maybe the rest of the industry is offering EVEN MORE each revision for the same price, so the MacBook Pros are actually getting more expensive.

3.06GHz is Intel Core 2 Extreme Q9100, which is $851 (in lots of 1000). Too expensive, I believe, for a laptop, unless they come down in price at some point.
Not too expensive. Too hot. 45 W compared to 35 W. (And BTW, it's the X9100. Q9100 is 2.27 GHz quad-core.)

Right; and still the MBP is the laptop running Vista fastest.
Not anymore it isn't.

With Montevina there are 4 processors faster than the top 2.6 GHz option in the MacBook Pro.

2.8 GHz dual-core (35 W), 3.07 GHz dual-core (45 W), 2.27 GHz quad-core (35? W), 2.53 GHz quad-core (45 W). Out of those only the first (and slowest for multithreaded tasks) may see its way into the upcoming MacBook Pro.
 
Just read in a german magazine, that Dell and HP already advertised some of their coming high-end-notebooks as "quad-core" but with no more information. that's way before Intel wanted to introduce the new mobile quadcores. I bet that IF apple is going to release new MBs and MBPs this fall, at least two of the three MBPs will sport this new Intel quad-core. The Dell-machine, by the way, mentioned in the german article is said to hold up to 16 GB of memory...

check this: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Mobiler-Vierkernprozessor-von-Intel-aufgetaucht--/meldung/114177

The 2.53GHz quad-core Core 2 Extreme costs $1036, with a rumored 2.26GHz version coming at $851. Given that quad-core offers little to no performance increase over dual-cores costing less than a third of that, it's highly unlikely MB/MBPs would find any buyers at the price Apple would have to charge.

I'd expect to see quad-core in a Mac, possibly starting with high-end iMacs,
sometime next year when Snow Leopard is released with its multiprocessor optimizations.
 
September Here We Come!

:apple::D I can't wait to see what Apple does with the touch! I've been waiting to buy one along with a macbook. A price drop is really the icing on the cake for me... September here we come!
 
Then the answer is to make the MacBook Pro even better, not to cripple the MacBook.

I agree!

Not too expensive. Too hot. 45 W compared to 35 W.

And too expensive. :) More than $500 over the cost of a 2.53GHz P9500. It would make the top-end MBP a lot higher priced than it is now.

(And BTW, it's the X9100. Q9100 is 2.27 GHz quad-core.)

Taken from here, but apparently it's a typo:

http://laptoping.com/intel-core-2-duo-p8400-p8600-p9500-t9400-t9600-extreme-q9100-montevina.html
 
Not everyone is inclined to drop a extra grand for dedicated graphics, another 2 inches of screen space, and a metal casing/different keyboard.

Hardware wise, you can buy PC's that are equal to or are greater than a Mac (hardware wise, not software, that is opinion) for a equal price or less.

Apple lags behind PC makers with hardware specs.

Dude, you buy a MacBook which is a 1000 dollar + laptop and you don't even get a third USB port. Enough said...

but okay, but basically thats alll the pro has over the macbook, i only thing your most likely gonna get is the muti-touch , because the macbook never had backlighting nor dedicated graphics cause it's a consumer laptops and most comsumer laptops dont get these things. i mean you cant expect them to make the consumer laptop better than the pro, then the MBP sales will drop, cause i can get a macbook that is better that the mbp
 
but okay, but basically thats alll the pro has over the macbook, i only thing your most likely gonna get is the muti-touch , because the macbook never had backlighting nor dedicated graphics cause it's a consumer laptops and most comsumer laptops dont get these things. i mean you cant expect them to make the consumer laptop better than the pro, then the MBP sales will drop, cause i can get a macbook that is better that the mbp

I don't think anyone would be silly enough to ask that the MB be given better specs than the Pro. However we would like the option of a dedicated GPU in the MB, like an 8400 (which is significantly less powerful than the GPU in the Pros).

The thing that grated on me was that the Apple TV had a better GPU (a 7300, 128Mb) than my MacBook when I bought it (GMA950). I would have KILLED to have that in my MB. These cards are cheap as chips (although not as cheap as the few $ the IGP is), so it's not an issue of cost as to why they aren't an option. It's Apple forcing people to get a 15.4" Pro if they want any kind of GPU performance, it's either that or nothing! This artificially inflates the price of the Pros as they're the only option.
 
but okay, but basically thats alll the pro has over the macbook, i only thing your most likely gonna get is the muti-touch , because the macbook never had backlighting nor dedicated graphics cause it's a consumer laptops and most comsumer laptops dont get these things. i mean you cant expect them to make the consumer laptop better than the pro, then the MBP sales will drop, cause i can get a macbook that is better that the mbp
Then the MacBook Pro just has to get better. Surely if the MacBook can be upgraded to MacBook Pro specs, the MacBook Pro can be so much better.

I don't think anyone would be silly enough to ask that the MB be given better specs than the Pro. However we would like the option of a dedicated GPU in the MB, like an 8400 (which is significantly less powerful than the GPU in the Pros).
And a high-res (1440*900) display would be nice too.
 
Given that quad-core offers little to no performance increase over dual-cores costing less than a third of that, it's highly unlikely MB/MBPs would find any buyers at the price Apple would have to charge.

This is very dependent on usage patterns. Even with 10.5's relatively worse SMP support, a heavy multitasker will be far better off overall with a "slower" quad-core CPU than a dual core.

Further, high-end, processor intensive programs that can, already scale very well with multiple CPUs. These days, if applications don't scale well with multiple CPUs, it's either because they can't (inherently serial processing) or because it simply doesn't matter (ie: they're already more than fast enough). With that in mind, again, a user of such applications will be better off overall with more cores at a lower clockspeed.

Personally, I'd happily buy a (say) 2Ghz quad-core CPU before a 2.5Ghz dual-core.
 
What keyboard do you want to have on the MacBook? iBook G4's?
Sure, I wouldn't mind that.
The keyboard on IBM laptops (I still can't say the word "Lenovo") is very nice and lends itself well to fast and accurate typing.

The flat chiclet keyboard that Apple is forcing upon people is not a keyboard for accurate typing because there is no placement feel other than the F and J keys.

You don't need a wrist bar for the new keyboard but the lack of concave surfaces to the keys allows your hands to drift to the point you wind up hitting another adjacent key. The new keyboard design is crap - it may be comfortable but it is not made for anyone who types long correspondence, etc. I can tolerate the chiclet keyboard in the laptop but Apple should at least offer the older style keyboard and the newer one as options.


Obligatory statement: yes, I respect those who like the new keyboard. I just wish Apple would make the old style available for sale - CHOICE is what I want! Is that too much to ask?
 
Just read in a german magazine, that Dell and HP already advertised some of their coming high-end-notebooks as "quad-core" but with no more information. that's way before Intel wanted to introduce the new mobile quadcores. I bet that IF apple is going to release new MBs and MBPs this fall, at least two of the three MBPs will sport this new Intel quad-core. The Dell-machine, by the way, mentioned in the german article is said to hold up to 16 GB of memory...

check this: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Mobiler-Vierkernprozessor-von-Intel-aufgetaucht--/meldung/114177

I really hope this is true. It would be nice to see a MBP redesign with a quad core. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 
Can't wait.

Been delaying buying a MBP just for this very reason.
I wonder whats going to be in the new MBPs, i'm shaking with excitement
 
Modbook or wait for macpro touch

Bonjour, I am in need to buy a portable tablet to make illustrations and animation on the road. Should I buy the modbook which has excellent review and hot in all around , but has in my opinion not a very strong computer inside, not very up-to-date ( no dual-core or quad-core , etc ) or wait and expect mac to release a new itablet or macpro touch portable with a sensitive stylus ?

maybe it is too asking for now for mac to release a portable device combined with a sensitive stylus...thought I think they are actually able to create THE tablet who combine every knowledge they have with the modbook, ipodtouch and macpro....

I am really hesitating about getting the modbook right now or wait weeks, months or years in the hope of a great revelation earlier than planned...

Thank you

Fran
 
Bonjour, I am in need to buy a portable tablet to make illustrations and animation on the road. Should I buy the modbook which has excellent review and hot in all around , but has in my opinion not a very strong computer inside, not very up-to-date ( no dual-core or quad-core , etc ) or wait and expect mac to release a new itablet or macpro touch portable with a sensitive stylus ?

itablet? macpro touch portable??? WHAT?


Buy the product that exists would be my advice there.
 
The big question for me regarding iPod Touch updates (if any) is the pricepoint.

The current Touch and it's features would suit me down to the ground- I don't mind if they update the design, the apps, the features etc. I'll be most interested in whether or not they change the price of the 16GB and 32GB models.

(Books overtime)
 
I had intended on adding an actual thought to that post...but got pulled away and submitted it w/o :p sorry for any confusion...

Right. lol

I've never considered the ModBook, though given I own a Cintiq 12WX and a MacBook, perhaps I should have. I know the Cintiq's a little more sensitive and has the touch strips and yadda yadda, but the convergence is a neat idea.

I'm suddenly warming to the idea of a Mac tablet! :D and not a big iPod touch, I mean a proper, pressure sensitive dealio.... an official Modbook
 
Would it make sense for Apple to transition the MacBook from plastic to not aluminium but titanium? I kind of miss the titanium PowerBooks.

In this era, it would be:
Aluminium: Pro
Titanium: Consumer

That would be interesting. Another question, would you say Titanium is more environmentally friendly than Plastic?
 
Would it make sense for Apple to transition the MacBook from plastic to not aluminium but titanium? I kind of miss the titanium PowerBooks.

In this era, it would be:
Aluminium: Pro
Titanium: Consumer

That would be interesting. Another question, would you say Titanium is more environmentally friendly than Plastic?

can it block wi-fi ?
 
can it block wi-fi ?

Are you saying that Titanium has worse wi-fi reception than Aluminium? It has been a long time since I have used or seen an Titanium PowerBook G4. None of my buddies have it, so I do not really know.
 
I'd say a lot of the environmental claims are bogus. Plastic and metal both have their (quite) negative environmental impacts. Especially when used on a wide, industrial scale. There's no way around that besides ending industry altogether. Not to say there shouldn't be efforts. The sooner we get out of this mess the better. /rant.

Now more on subject, I'm really pulling for the aluminum. I hope they've made consideration towards the wi-fi reception. Updated graphics, thin LED screen, backlit keys, bumped specs. C'mon!

But alas, all I'm certain of is Montevina and probably aluminum casing.
 
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