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I still don't get why Apple would move the MacBook over to an aluminum chassis.

Before the Intel transition, Apple had very clear delineations in it's product lines; Consumer products had an 'i' prefix and were clad in shiny white plastic, and professional products had a 'Power' prefix and had aluminum bodies.

Since doing away with the i and Power monikers (except the iMac, but I suppose that's only because of the namebrand recognition), we've seen things gradually move from plastic to aluminum (except oddly the iPhone, that went in the opposite direction, go figure).

If all 3 of the notebooks are aluminum it's going to be hard to distinguish the pro lines, unless we're going to see a complete redesign of the Mac Pro as well as the MBP and them move to a case material/color other than aluminum... black anodized? Carbon fiber? It's already been proven people will pay more for a different color (I have a a BlackBook, I should know).
 
The MacBooks are already made of plastic. Do these people do anything other than predict based on the weather.

"The new MacBooks will be slimmer, might have exteriors made of plastic instead of aluminum and could also have a newly designed keyboards, said Mike Olson, an analyst at Piper Jaffray & Co."

that was a misquote from the orginal article. C-MON PPL STEVE JOBS SAID ALL THE MAC WILL BE ALUMINUM BEFORE 2009, HE SAID IT. WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL WILLING TO ARGUE HIM TO THE GROUND ABOUT IT
 
I still don't get why Apple would move the MacBook over to an aluminum chassis.

Before the Intel transition, Apple had very clear delineations in it's product lines; Consumer products had an 'i' prefix and were clad in shiny white plastic, and professional products had a 'Power' prefix and had aluminum bodies.

Since doing away with the i and Power monikers (except the iMac, but I suppose that's only because of the namebrand recognition), we've seen things gradually move from plastic to aluminum (except oddly the iPhone, that went in the opposite direction, go figure).

If all 3 of the notebooks are aluminum it's going to be hard to distinguish the pro lines, unless we're going to see a complete redesign of the Mac Pro as well as the MBP and them move to a case material/color other than aluminum... black anodized? Carbon fiber? It's already been proven people will pay more for a different color (I have a a BlackBook, I should know).
APPLE IS TRYING TO BE ECO-FRIENDLY
 
that was a misquote from the orginal article. C-MON PPL STEVE JOBS SAID ALL THE MAC WILL BE ALUMINUM BEFORE 2009, HE SAID IT. WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL WILLING TO ARGUE HIM TO THE GROUND ABOUT IT

Thank you. Really. That needed to be said.
 
Hi, as friends and family can confirm, and I can prove anytime in person, if I touch ANY Apple product made from aluminium, from the 12" PowerBook to the keyboard on the MacBook Air, within minutes, my skin will feel dry and begin to feel sensitive. After a few days, it will crack and bleed from the cracks, taking about a week or two to recover. I have researched this online and found a few references. Some believe it could be a coating used on Apple's aluminium products - even including the new Apple keyboard sold with the new iMacs.

For the last two years, since parting with my 12" PowerBook, I have used a MacBook and am currently using a lovely Mac Mini with a plastic 3rd party keyboard as a go between until the new MacBooks arrive.

My question is this: If the new MacBooks are what I am after (light, compact and at least as powerful as my former 2GHz MacBook) but made from aluminium, what are those of us alergic to aluminium Apple products going to do? Who else suffers from this condition? (I do plan to contact Apple on this at some point.) *Aloominum to those the other side of the Atlantic! :)

Wear gloves.
 
Hi, as friends and family can confirm, and I can prove anytime in person, if I touch ANY Apple product made from aluminium, from the 12" PowerBook to the keyboard on the MacBook Air, within minutes, my skin will feel dry and begin to feel sensitive. After a few days, it will crack and bleed from the cracks, taking about a week or two to recover. I have researched this online and found a few references. Some believe it could be a coating used on Apple's aluminium products - even including the new Apple keyboard sold with the new iMacs.

For the last two years, since parting with my 12" PowerBook, I have used a MacBook and am currently using a lovely Mac Mini with a plastic 3rd party keyboard as a go between until the new MacBooks arrive.

My question is this: If the new MacBooks are what I am after (light, compact and at least as powerful as my former 2GHz MacBook) but made from aluminium, what are those of us alergic to aluminium Apple products going to do? Who else suffers from this condition? (I do plan to contact Apple on this at some point.) *Aloominum to those the other side of the Atlantic! :)

NUMBER ONE, I JUST THINK YOUR BEING MELO-DRAMATIC, BUT IF YOU ARENT, IT IS PROBABLY LIKELY THERE GONNA USED THE PLASTIC CHICLET STYLE KEYBOARD FOR ALL THIER COMPUTERS, BUT THATS JUST MY GUESS, IM STILL JOE SMOE SITTING IN HIS BASEMENT
 
Also, any chance of another iMac update before the year's end?
It's possible. Apple could upgrade the CPU at least with a speed bump and a possible quad-core option.

But a safe bet would be early next year, then there'll be a bigger upgrade.

I still don't get why Apple would move the MacBook over to an aluminum chassis.
I'll explain things.

Since doing away with the i and Power monikers (except the iMac, but I suppose that's only because of the namebrand recognition), we've seen things gradually move from plastic to aluminum (except oddly the iPhone, that went in the opposite direction, go figure).
The iPhone switched to plastic for better wireless reception.

If all 3 of the notebooks are aluminum it's going to be hard to distinguish the pro lines, unless we're going to see a complete redesign of the Mac Pro as well as the MBP and them move to a case material/color other than aluminum... black anodized? Carbon fiber? It's already been proven people will pay more for a different color (I have a a BlackBook, I should know).
  • The MacBook Pro is likely to have a black keyboard while the MacBook is likely to have a white keyboard.
  • The MacBook Pro is likely to have an aluminum border around the display while the MacBook is likely to have a black border around the display.
  • The MacBook Pro has a bigger display than the MacBook.
It's true that the visual differences would be less now than in the PowerPC days, but maybe Apple's going to use greater component differentiation between the two laptop lines. It would then be reasonable to predict that there could be clear differences in CPU speed, RAM type (DDR2 vs. DDR3), hard drives (5400 RPM vs. 7200 RPM), graphics card (integrated vs. discrete), and maybe a number of other factors (I have a big wishlist here). These differences would further the MacBook Pro into the professional segment and the MacBook into the consumer segment. Looking at the price points of the iMacs and the Mac Pros, the MacBook may get cheaper while the MacBook Pro may get more expensive, increasing the component differentiation.

So what I'm thinking is, previously the two lines were distinguished by both looks and features, now they will be distinguished less with looks and more with features.
 
So here it is

I think we may be looking at a new iPod Touch with built in iChat Videoconferencing using a dedicated h.264 enc/dec chip.

Think about it. Apple is getting into the individually mobile networked communications game. AT&T's network is miserable and can't handle mass video comms anytime soon. I work in that industry (building Wireless networks). But Apple could start by only offering video over Wifi in a "test" appliance like the iPod Touch. A standalone chip could offer both better power consumption and compression speed. Also, to really think out of the box, imagine Apple making use of that patent where the screen is the camera so you could just look directly at the display and have a video chat.

Three years ago I forecast here in these forums that Apple would enter the Cell phone business soon. Now watch portable iPod iChat Videoconferencing happen.
 
I thought the whole reason MacBooks were changing to aluminum casings were because Apple had a whole Green thing going and then, all their laptops offered would be fully recycleable.

sooo...then what is the whole point of using plastic for 3G (changed from aluminum) and then now changing iTouch as well to plastic?
 
I still don't get why Apple would move the MacBook over to an aluminum chassis.

Before the Intel transition, Apple had very clear delineations in it's product lines; Consumer products had an 'i' prefix and were clad in shiny white plastic, and professional products had a 'Power' prefix and had aluminum bodies.

Since doing away with the i and Power monikers (except the iMac, but I suppose that's only because of the namebrand recognition), we've seen things gradually move from plastic to aluminum (except oddly the iPhone, that went in the opposite direction, go figure).

If all 3 of the notebooks are aluminum it's going to be hard to distinguish the pro lines, unless we're going to see a complete redesign of the Mac Pro as well as the MBP and them move to a case material/color other than aluminum... black anodized? Carbon fiber? It's already been proven people will pay more for a different color (I have a a BlackBook, I should know).

I was just thinking the same thing. What if they changed the MacBook Pros to Carbon Fiber, Titanium, or maybe just make them an anodized black? There needs to be an aesthetic difference between consumer and pro lines.

That would be funny if the MacBooks were actually plastic with some aluminum colored spray paint. I know this would never happen. It was an amusing thought.
 
Thank you. Really. That needed to be said.

It would have been better if he actually posted a link to that quote rather than using all caps in a large font.

I don't believe SJ said anything of the sort. All I remember him saying is that they would transition to greener products and led backlit screens by 2009. I don't remember him mentioning anything about all macs would be aluminum before 2009.
 
That would be funny if the MacBooks were actually plastic with some aluminum colored spray paint. I know this would never happen. It was an amusing thought.
That's what I thought when I read this.

AppleInsider said:
Having signed a non-disclosure agreement with Apple, the worker was hesitant to respond to questions on the matter from fellow members of the discussion forum, but did initially let slip that the order was for traditional aluminum-colored casings only.
The other interpretation of that would be the color is traditional grey aluminum, that is, no colored aluminum.
 
C-MON PPL STEVE JOBS SAID ALL APPLE PRODUCTS WILL BE MORE ECO-FRIENDLY
AND HERE IS MY PROOF
I LOVE BIG FONT, IT REALLY GETS A POINT ACROSS
Calm down. You don't need big font to get your point across, it just makes your post more annoying. Seriously. Stop with the big capitalized posts please.

Yeah, that's true, but where does it say Apple will use aluminum in all its product by the end of 2008?
 
Can we discuss when you think these updates will roll out. We've heard a lot of speculation, but it's looking impossible to time these things. I've been waiting all summer for updates and they just don't seem to come. Thankfully UCLA starts September 25th, but I don't know. Do you think I'll have enough time?
 
Yeah, that's true, but where does it say Apple will use aluminum in all its product by the end of 2008?

I think this is it:

Apple plans to completely eliminate the use of PVC and BFRs in its products by the end of 2008.

It doesn't necessarily say aluminum. It just says it won't be using the PVC anymore.

But you're right: nothing in there says anything about switching all computers to aluminum. It seems like its going that way, granted (only one computer, the MacBook, still uses plastic), but its not really stated in that article.
 
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