iPod Touch: 'Mainstream Wi-Fi Mobile Platform'

[Tom J]

honestly i dont think apple had these thoughs in mind when FIRSt developing the iPod Touch.

In fact steve made it clear that he only considered the iPod Touch a high-end iPod.

We hang on every syllable that Steve utters. If he had said anything other than that, he would have raised expectations beyond what he was able to deliver on in the near future. Despite what he said, it was clear that the touch was the basis for something big.

I agree with mozmac, Apple keeps assembling pieces to the grand puzzle. I wish I knew what is is.

 

[billystlyes]

'Mainstream Wi-Fi Mobile Platform'

Of coarse they are. Charging $20 for a couple of apps at a time is the motivation.

 

[MrCrowbar]

I'm very interested in the SDK. Don't have an iPhone or iPod Touch yet, but I might get one if the SDK rocks. I wish the apps would be handled like OSX widget. You could find them on the Apple website (i-Widgets right next to the Mac widgets) but also elsewhere. Some widgets require you to pay after a while. I'd also be fine with free and commercial widgets via iTunes Store.
Actually I think a lot of widgets could run on the small devices without too much modification besides scaling. I mean, it's all Web technology. I'd love to make something with webclip and just drag the thing to iTunes, resize it to fit snug on the iPhone screen. But Native apps could actually be powerful. Imagine VLC Player, GarageBuy or Transmission on your iPod Touch. There's a lot of potential and the open source will embrace it I'm sure, even if the device itself is a little expensive.

 

[Neuro]

Funnily enough, when I got my iPod Touch, I just used it as a mobile browsing device, for which I found it a great pleasure to use. The music side was very much secondary.

To back up their claims, what other mobile web platform has taken off in the same way and as quickly as the Touch/iPhone?

 

[Stang68]

I will believe it when they add 802.1X. Until then, it's just a touchscreen iPod.

Can't agree with you more. Someone here said that the touch is the ultimate "college device" because of wifi campuses. WRONG! Most campuses use 802.1x authentication. I dont know why the touch doesnt support it!

 

[Macula]

'Mainstream Wi-Fi Mobile Platform'.

Read 'Mac Tablet'.

That's it.

 

[basesloaded190]

Can't agree with you more. Someone here said that the touch is the ultimate "college device" because of wifi campuses. WRONG! Most campuses use 802.1x authentication. I dont know why the touch doesnt support it!

I can't use mine at campus as of now. If they were to change that I would be a very happy man cuz right now it sucks not being able to get online at school

 

[milo]

Well, other than Palm PDAs, and Windows mobile devices, that is.

Wifi palms and Win mobile devices have sold enough to be considered "mainstream"? Win mobile is notorious for being a giant failure, it only got about 5% of smartphone market share.

 

[Agathon]

Newton 2.0... and they didn't even realize it!

Yeah they did. I've been saying since it came out that this is the new Newton.

 

[Eraserhead]

I will believe it when they add 802.1X. Until then, it's just a touchscreen iPod.

It has VPN support right now, see [guide]VPN on the iPod Touch[/guide]

 

[BrownManUPS]

I can't use mine at campus as of now. If they were to change that I would be a very happy man cuz right now it sucks not being able to get online at school

Can't agree with you more. Someone here said that the touch is the ultimate "college device" because of wifi campuses. WRONG! Most campuses use 802.1x authentication. I dont know why the touch doesnt support it!

I guess so, being at IU Blooington, they use some sort of encryption that the iTouch supports...I think it is WPA. It records the mac address of my ipod and then it doesn't forget it and allows me to use it, provided I put my username and password.

The support should come though, it would be foolish if Apple didn't put it on.

 

[lazyrighteye]

Apple is planning on launching a Software Developer's Kit (SDK) in February for both the iPod touch and iPhone, and it appears that Apple is approaching this seriously.

There have been reports that some early developers have already received copies of the SDK and are already working on iPod/iPhone applications. No announcements have yet been made about general developer accessibility to the SDK.

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I.
Can't.
Wait.

 

[dwl017]

Yup. Gmail created a specific interface for it too.

Good to know but is this an app that the average Joe can set up ? not a hack

 

[Kar98]

Wifi palms and Win mobile devices have sold enough to be considered "mainstream"?

My MOTHER has one, and she's 57. My car mechanic has one, and he's about the same age.

Win mobile is notorious for being a giant failure, it only got about 5% of smartphone market share.

11% of the global "smartphone" market share, and I'm too lazy to find the numbers, but HTC sold 2 million of its Touch alone last year. That's not counting their 47eleventy other models they sell under their own name and build for others.

 

[GeekLawyer]

Good to know but is this an app that the average Joe can set up ? not a hack

It's pretty easy on my end.

www.google.com/m

 

[Works4Me]

This sounds great. I'm planning to buy one as soon as the second rev shows up (assuming that Apple ups the capacity).

 

[Neuro]

Does anyone really see Windows mobile as anything other than a crippled phone OS? The Apple OS just feels and looks next-gen on a mobile device.

Actual consumers *can't wait* for the Touch/iPhone SDK to be released so they can hurl their money at the new apps. You can't say that about new versions of Windows Mobile.

 

[Kar98]

Does anyone really see Windows mobile as anything other than a crippled phone OS?

Nope. Why?

The Apple OS just feels and looks next-gen on a mobile device.

Dude...

Actual consumers *can't wait* for the Touch/iPhone SDK to be released so they can hurl their money at the new apps. You can't say that about new versions of Windows Mobile.

No, they already ARE able to buy or write their own apps. Imagine!

 

[liberty4all]

Polymer Vision's in future iPhone/Touch?

Looks like Polymer Vision's might be in a future iPhone/Touch

http://www.news.com/Phone-with-fold...-2008/2100-1041_3-6227035.html?tag=ne.fd.mnbc

 

[rl.]

Thing that i think is making apple think this way now is ALL the 3'rd party support the device has gotten throuhg jailbreaking. sure steve doesnt like jailbreakers... but he can't help but admit that ALOT of support from ALOT of people have gone into it, and that it's obvious this device could become something EXTREMELY big if he allows it.

Here is a challenge for you all, say the first sentence of this quote three times fast. I get that this is a forum, but lets try to keep the English "readable"

 

[Dimwhit]

I don't think we're all going to be as excited about all this when we find out how much all these extra apps are going to cost...

 

[panamajack]

Errr.....

I will believe it when they add 802.1X. Until then, it's just a touchscreen iPod.

Just a touchscreen iPod that can log onto most 802.11g networks, surf the web, etc.

Could you explain why 802.1x support is so crucial for you ? I'm certainly excited about getting on. For University denizens who typically now live/work in wifi saturated areas, the Touch is a very compelling product.

 

[aLoC]

I think the SDK is a mistake. Apple should control the apps on the Touch so some third party's lowqual app doesn't ruin the Touch's reputation.

 

[conshok26]

I think I remember hearing that once its released that you'd be able to download apps right on the iPhone/touch from the iTunes store. Anyone else remember this?

 

[TedB]

No, they already ARE able to buy or write their own apps. Imagine!

Imagine! A mobile device that is about to gain the functions that is has taken Windows Mobile 8ish years to perfect! I get what you are saying, but Windows Mobile has been out for quite awhile (since 2000). The iPhone has not even been out for a year (sale wise) and it is already doing things that microsoft has been trying to do for a long time. iPhones already have topped windows mobile devices in the market share of web traffic, even though there are far less iPhones out there. Once the SDK is out and the second gen iPhone is out, it will be a hard platform to beat.