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iPod Video Photo

AlanAudio said:
Some of you guys want to believe it so much that you won't see what's really there.
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Actually, I thought it was fake all along, but after seeing your relatively poor argument for why it MUST BE FAKE I reconsidered and now am seriously wondering, what if?
 
thejadedmonkey said:
Let me quote myself from page 4.
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They're obviously not the same. Look at the length of the connector housing and the flexible joint in comparison:
 

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TMA said:
What puzzles me is that near the beginning it looks like M8719 but towards the end it fits MB719 better! Argh!
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It seems like the barcodes should match at every section but the first, unless I misunderstand how the barcodes work. Isn't it like an alphabet except it's all but impossible for people to read? If that's the case there is something wrong with one of the barcodes.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

~V
 

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if someone wants to photograph a 5g ipod twice with both sides of the bargraph displayed, I'll gladly photoshop it to try and reproduce something of similar quality... just as a test.

just figured I'd offer.
 
You got it...

kntgsp said:
How many times does it need to be said? It's B, B as in Book, which people who can't see that this is a B, obviously can't read.
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I think you got it (maybe by accident). It is Apple's new book reader, which will also play music and video (but not a sole video player).

My thoughts.
 
(L) said:
Let's think...why would there be a barcode on a prototype or finished product, directly on the screen, as if intentionally asserting authenticity? Why neatly in a corner, yet covering part of the screen? Barcodes are used to scan. Give me one reason someone would scan this, as is, without a box or anything. Well, it ain't to scan the retail price. Someone more experienced with barcodes might tell you what that might be. All I know is that it's not even symmetrical, and usually at least the ends are...though not always.
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hey buddy, take a look at these barcodes on a prototype that came out to be true:

http://guides.macrumors.com/Image:5G_ipod_leaked.jpg
 
flip a coin

Hahaha... I can't believe how bloated this thread has gotten in one day... LOTS of interest!
:eek:

I'm on the fence with this one... I am a "master" in Photoshop and while this image looks plausible, it's certainly possible it's a fake. I could have done it and better... I'll have to remember that next time I want to try and start a massive rumor thread...
:cool:

I see some artifact/questionable areas in the photo and at the same time, it's a small low resolution image...
:confused:

IF this is true I will be one of the people in the corner crying since I just bought a 60G video iPod a few weeks ago.
:rolleyes:

Oh, and I think it's a "B" but it's a close call...
:p
 
millypede said:
On the 'Test' Picture that is shown, even the current Video ipods still have that built in for 'us' the techies to fix and diagnose iPods.
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Really? How do you get to that? Any documentation of that online somewhere? Or even better, a screenshot?
 
bousozoku said:
You're not entirely accurate, so you might not want to go there. ;)



It's probably not a good way to attempt to finish off a debate.
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Apologies, you're probably right. I don't have much time for this kind of inferior debate (spelling errors etc.) and like to nip it in the bud!

Back to the important stuff, the quality of prototyping in the photo is no where near the quality of prototyping produced by apple. If release was imminent the modeling would be highly polished. Virtually all visual models are of an extremely high standard from apple. The bubbling evident on the left side of the screen is usually due to acrylic material being overheated prior to vacuum forming, a schoolboy error! Functional models often don't resemble the finished product in terms of material use i.e. there's no actual need to produce this kind of low standard visual model; it's either highly polished or highly functional with alternative, easier to manipulate materials. Hence my strong opinion that this has nothing to do with apple.
 
Boingy said:
It seems like the barcodes should match at every section but the first, unless I misunderstand how the barcodes work. Isn't it like an alphabet except it's all but impossible for people to read? If that's the case there is something wrong with one of the barcodes.
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It's not really useful to do this kind of side-by-side comparison, because you can see in the original photo that the bars are less than one pixel wide. Add in the slight angle, and you have bars jumping from one pixel column to another. The anti-aliasing from the image rotation only exacerbates the problem.

All that can really be said of the image it that yes, it's vaguely the same as those barcodes; hence the original note that it's too bad the original photo is too small to scan.
 
(L) said:
The best evidence is pointing out that label on it. The cardboard one. Who cuts/folds a piece of brown paper or cardboard like that? Who writes Chinese (I know no word like that in Japanese), trying hard to retrace the lines, modeling it clearly after a typed font - notice in the first character there is this part where two lines almost come together but don't, instead becoming somewhat parallel; those lines should either meet and/or the one on the bottom should curve the opposite direction. There is also an element common to both which is written exactly how it appears in certain fonts, but is not how it is written (the part on the left side of each character). The dots are awkwardly placed. The flick on the tukuri for power is not a flick but a perpendicular line. My point is, this fake Chinese label is not the work of a illiterate Chinese, but the work of a person copying the font off a computer.
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I don't know anything about Chinese, but if the brown cardboard or paper you are referring to is the connector, then you should look again. I think it is pretty obviously brown packing tape. Something that pretty much any shop floor will have handy to label something without writing right on the cable.
 
milo said:
Really? How do you get to that? Any documentation of that online somewhere? Or even better, a screenshot?
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ok cant find my phone in the dark, but I was off a little, you get a
Blue, red, green, black, white, gradient black to... red,green,blue, white, , chess board, fading grey, gradient grey to white.
I am running the older software at home, Im sure its been updated, but im not back into work until Monday.
 
I was just thinking, wasn't Steve talking about all sorts of new "toys" comming out, especially now that we're x86 during some keynote?

Here are the specs for the CHEEPEST dell Axim handheld running a watered down Windows XP wannabe that retails for $298.
*Axim X51
*Intel® 416MHz processor
*128MB ROM (like the storage on the iPod Nano)
*64MB SDRAM
*3.5 inch QVGA Screen
*Bluetooth

Now, let's check out the minimum specs to run OS X.
* Macintosh computer with a PowerPC G3 (which came at speeds as low as 233 mhz)
* Built-in FireWire
* DVD Rom to install OS X "tiger"
* 256MB of RAM
* 3GB of available hard disk space (4GB if you install the developer tools)

As you can see, RAM and ROM are what's holding it back from running OS X on an ipod sized device. Ram is dirt cheep these days, and hard drives are getting cheeper and cheeper. If Apple released a tablet that ran OS X, which they can more than easily do, this could be it.

Or it can just be an iPod with a touch screen...
 
milo said:
Why would Apple use a corrupted version of a standard calibration image?
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but the picture has obviously been taken by quite a poor camera with poor lighting so can we really trust the colours represented here?
 
I'm starting to take things back, i thought id have a look in photoshop changing contrasts etc, found what looks to be a badly lined up crop, what you think
 

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I don't know if it has been said before...

The picture does not look that good, especially the top left corner. It just does not seem real. I don't know if it is only me, but it seems the fake vs. real disscusion around the part number is a bit silly considering how bad the picture looks, in my opinion.

mduser63 said:
The back of my 5G iPod says Model No: A1136. I'm not ready to say that this is a fake yet. As "leaked" photos go, this one is pretty convincing.
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xDANx said:
from what i can remember from my time as an apple service tech...:

LL/A means english (north american?) revision A
Z/A means international revision A (products that don't require separate languages/regionalization)
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I found via international Amazon shops that England/Ireland got B/A, Germany had D/A, Japan had J/A, France had FD/A. I can't really see any pattern for which country gets which letter(s), but what we do know is that the US and Canada's products have LL/A. I couldn't find serial numbers on Amazon China.
 
phonic pol said:
What a load of bollocks! I've spent a fair amount of my career to date in product design consultancy and I've never seen such a crap example of a pre-production model. The corner radiuses are completely wrong and definately nothing to do with Apple! Complete ****!
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Well I've devoted a fair amount of my career to reading MacRumors! I think the corner radiuses look just fine here. I do think the proportion of the screen the existing iPod with video takes up of the whole device look odd though.
 
1984 said:
It's Chinese and means "This Side" but the characters are written strangely.
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OK, whoever the Chinese experts at endgadget are.... I mean, I'm no expert. But the characters aren't written strangely, they're copied off a font, retraced in some areas to better model the printout.

Actually, I've been testing this. My translation widget shows me the hoaxer missed a dot. IF the hoaxer also used the widget, that could account for his being limited (though he could have tried better) to that font, since there are a few chinese fonts that are far better for this sorta thing. (See attachment for comparison with a font that is much closer to handwritten Chinese.)

One more thing. Everybody sying this thing means "this side" is most likely wrong. Try what I did - type "this side up," "this side down," and "this side" into the translation widget. You'll get the same thing for "this side up" and "this side," meaning that the hoaxer probably put in this side up. But then again, the translation widget is pretty sad, and going from Chinese to English, returns "here". Well, "here" is a pretty stupid label, but I assume that's a fault of the translation widget. Anyway, a real Chinese would not have written it in computer font, so the meaning of the label is not all that significant.
 

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hrmpf said:
i had the same idea about the bar codes

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i'm no expert but i think i got a clearer result it looks like it's the OS X server barcode... but maybe it runs OS X Server :D

Here's how i got the bar codes etc if you want to check
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That's a good comparison. I also enhanced the text part to see if I could make more out of just the text (rather than playing with bar codes). As you can see from the attached, It definitely looks like an 8 when contrast is upped, brightness is reduced, and it is sharpened.

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thejadedmonkey said:
I was just thinking, wasn't Steve talking about all sorts of new "toys" comming out, especially now that we're x86 during some keynote?

Here are the specs for the CHEEPEST dell Axim handheld running a watered down Windows XP wannabe that retails for $298.
*Axim X51
*Intel® 416MHz processor
*128MB ROM (like the storage on the iPod Nano)
*64MB SDRAM
*3.5 inch QVGA Screen
*Bluetooth

Now, let's check out the minimum specs to run OS X.
* Macintosh computer with a PowerPC G3 (which came at speeds as low as 233 mhz)
* Built-in FireWire
* DVD Rom to install OS X "tiger"
* 256MB of RAM
* 3GB of available hard disk space (4GB if you install the developer tools)

As you can see, RAM and ROM are what's holding it back from running OS X on an ipod sized device. Ram is dirt cheep these days, and hard drives are getting cheeper and cheeper. If Apple released a tablet that ran OS X, which they can more than easily do, this could be it.

Or it can just be an iPod with a touch screen...
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Except that a G3-233 is probably (I'm not 100% sure here) quite a bit more powerful than an XScale @400mhz. The XScale chips are like hummingbirds... they have to flap very very fast just to keep a tiny little body in the air.
 
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