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rworne said:
That and again it looks like Glad press-n-seal was used for the plastic you see over the white background.

The plastic background appears to be the same anti-static plastic wrap Apple ships many of the products with.

The Glad press and seal crap you are talking of has the same redundant and ridiculous this side up labeling on it, that so many are complaining about on the connector. If people can't figure out how to use plastic wrap, why would you expect a company to not label a connector.
 
stridey said:
Does the spot on the far left where the screen meets border look fishy to anybody else? I'm not really a photoshop guru, but it sure looks like the "screen test" was just pasted on. If that's the case, this could easily be a photoshopped 5G. Just speculation mind you, but it looks false to me.

It looks like scotch tape on the frame to me, and it shows up on the bottom edge, too. I think it is a fake, and a bad one at that. Everyone's looking at the screen image but the frame is what looks like a craft project.
 
xsnightclub said:
The plastic background appears to be the same anti-static plastic wrap Apple ships many of the products with.

The Glad press and seal crap you are talking of has the same redundant and ridiculous this side up labeling on it, that so many are complaining about on the connector. If people can't figure out how to use plastic wrap, why would you expect a company to not label a connector.

I don't expect them not to. I work in a company that does development of "prototype equipment". Nothing consumer though. I've seen plenty of things go wrong in labs, and I can assure you anyone with similar experience in a lab would also know what I am talking about.
 
Macrumors said:

The most convincing evidence that this is a fake is that the part number "M8719Z/A" is the same part number as Mac OS X 10.2 Server.

Uhh, this comes a little late, but nitpicking over an 8 or a B when nobody can really be all that sure is rather lame. I've been trying to draw more attention to the Chinese which is blatantly copied off a computer font, and could possibly be a mistranslation to begin with (a couple people have claimed this but I need to ask someone who actually knows Chinese).
 
mmmmark said:
You don't see those on this image do you? Because I don't.

No, that's an image I have here on my hard drive. I was just giving the information for comparison. With the "iPod" image, I don't see any reference to Adobe.
 
phonic pol said:
Proportion is a very subtle thing and it's something that apple has honed to perfection. My sense of aesthetic says the corners are too heavily radiused in relation to the screen bezel and inner screen corners, the bezel width also varies. The relationship of these elements is crucial. Apple will present a much more refined and considered sense of proportion than is evident here. I say this because I'm used to looking at how shapes work together on a very subtle level for high end hifi and electronics clients. It's the first thing I see when looking at the pic.

Another Industrial Designer I see...

...I agree, but the 5G ipod gives up some of its balance in fillets for screen real estate; its difficult to tell from this image because on such a device like this, you are going to have a touch screen that is sunk below the bezel surface, unlike the current offerings.

How about ipod internet tablet?
 
rworne said:
experience in a lab would also know what I am talking about.

yes - espically if you have 'nuff nuff's' working to test the equipment.
You have to label everything.

-This
-Is
-what
-too
-do

UGHHH!
 
I dont know why people are fretting about the cords being different than the regular cords. If this is a pre-production unit then it should be obvious that they have a weird looking cord for easy use for pushing in or out and testing the unit.

My thoughts are 75% its real 25% fake because of the smudging around the bar code.
 
Because mistranslating is so rare, there are websites for it

(L) said:
I've been trying to draw more attention to the Chinese which is blatantly copied off a computer font, and could possibly be a mistranslation to begin with (a couple people have claimed this but I need to ask someone who actually knows Chinese).

Engrish.com has many picture for you. You go now or bad person.

Obviously if a translation is wrong, it must be fake.(like Sony Ericsson cell phones, All Fake, not one is real.)
 

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mvc said:
When you greatly boost the mids in photoshop, the corner label exhibits some odd smudging that one often sees after use of the rubber stamp tool, and also some odd red and cyan colour patches in areas which are supposed to be sitting over a black test bar. This implies to me that it has at the very least probably been photoshopped in this area for some reason.

The red and cyan are normal. Try boosting the mids on other photographs. Even though it looks white, there is still color information. It's just faint before you boost it. And it isn't totally even because of the jpeg compression. I've seen this type of thing lots of times.

As far as the smudging goes, I'm not so sure. This could also be from the jpeg compression, but I don't recall seeing it in other photos. Of course, I wasn't looking for it either.
 
rworne said:
My Chinese-born coworker said it was "this side" before any translations were shown. I tend to believe him, whether or not anyone believes me. Besides, if you have seen lots of Chinese characters and how they are written, you will know that the penmanship is just plain awful and looks more like a non-native wrote them.

As for lab workers, they are a ham-fisted lot. You need idiot labels like these. We have a piece of equipment with two ports on it that use an identical connector for each. I had to write "NO" next to one and "THIS ONE" under the other to avoid wasting any more time with wrong connections during testing.

Lol...ham-fisted...me likes that part. See, somebody else claiming to have Chinese coworkers (note, not chinese-born, hee hee) has already vouched for "here" and not "this side". And putting "this side up" into the translation widget gets the result you see in the image; reversing it gets the english "here". And besides, if you'd looked at some of my earlier posts you would have noticed that I've already been hitting it for being copied off the computer (not just non-native). As for you having to specify which one to plug into, that seems totally different. Note that it is impossible to get a plug to go in backwards (if it were possible, which I think it would be a good redesign to make it so, it would work anyway). Anybody can figure out that you have to flip the plug over and try again, given that their job depends on their ability to do so. Then again, if it weren't for that last condition, I knew this kid once that was upset because he couldn't figure out how to load a game casette into one of those portable game boys and smashed it in backwards.... But, that's his first try. Our fake iPod is labeled #7, if you want to argue someone could still be stupid enough to force a cable in backwards, as if having never touched one in his life.
 
danielwsmithee said:
I just find it much more believable that this is actually real then someone has put for the effort to make this good of a fake. This is just too good of a fake in my opinion, there are too many details that can very easily be explained by it being real, and seem like a stretch to be a fake.

Just in case this hasn't hit you, the point of a good hoax is to make you think that way. Exactly that way.
 
runninmac said:
I dont know why people are fretting about the cords being different than the regular cords. If this is a pre-production unit then it should be obvious that they have a weird looking cord for easy use for pushing in or out and testing the unit.

My thoughts are 75% its real 25% fake because of the smudging around the bar code.

Uhh, there is now a contradiction within the people that believe it's real - if the cord is designed to be easy to plug in and out, why is it labeled (allegedly) "this side up"?
 
(L) said:
Just in case this hasn't hit you, the point of a good hoax is to make you think that way. Exactly that way.

Like Sony pictures movie reviews.
Tom Cruise's relationship with Katie.
The book that Oprah hyped.
Collin Powells Iraq presentation to the UN.
PowerMac G5, the fastest computer in the world.
 
xsnightclub said:
Engrish.com has many picture for you. You go now or bad person.

Obviously if a translation is wrong, it must be fake.(like Sony Ericsson cell phones, All Fake, not one is real.)

I can't decide if you agree with me or disagree with me, so I'll just plug Engrish.com. Good site, but if I remember right (looked at it a long time ago), it was more Japanese-English as opposed to Chinese-English. I don't know what you're talking about with Sony Ericsson phones, but I like your Sony Ericsson ripoff warning pic.
 
It may not be real but it is not fake

I don't know if this product has anything to do with Apple but it was definetly not faked in photoshop. I can tell that sticker was placed over an LCD dissplay when the shot was taken by doing a color channel depth review, the luminosity of the magenta, cyan and black bars coming through the label are spot on. Now this may be an LCD from some protable DVD player with a home-made bezel in it and some third party cable only Steve and a handful of people truly know:D , but if it is the long rumored Tablet/Remote/Video iPod that we have heard rumors about and seen all the patent news coming out about two finger touch screen access it sure would be "fun" - and would it not be a great device to look at your iCalendar on. Think about it.:D :cool:
 
(L) said:
Uhh, there is now a contradiction within the people that believe it's real - if the cord is designed to be easy to plug in and out, why is it labeled (allegedly) "this side up"?
"Easy" would be as in beefier than the cables shipped to consumers. If you have ever seen a real iPod dock cable, it is rather delicate. Real iPod dock cables shipped to consumers also have a "this side up" icon ( just a little rectangle with a line inside) because the connector looks pretty much the same when it is upside-down.

And really, the notion that someone who didn't know the language was asked to copy some characters onto connectors isn't the least bit remarkable.
 
Peace said:
Here's a big twist in this saga..

I propose to the group that the photo in question is not a photo but a frame capture from a handheld cell phone.


Discuss..;)


Someone suggested earlier, that this maybe from a film camera given the possible date stamp being crossed out after scanning.

I have never seen a phone camera put a date stamp, not to say that it isn't possible.
 
nagromme said:
The brown tape is oddly labeled, yes. The question is, why? A photo faker getting too clever for themselves? Maybe, but consider this:

I work in China teaching written Chinese to immigrant labor, and we very OFTEN have our students practice writing on brown packing tape, because it doesn't blow away like paper does. Then, like most schools in China, we sell the used tape to local manufacturing companies. That's most likely how the oddly-marked tape got into Apple's factory. In fact, sometimes I assign my students to write things just as fun pranks, such as "this is refreshing drinking water, not acid."

Okay, sure, it *could* have blown in from your school. Are you saying the tape is the prank, not the photo? Because my point is that if you were faking this after the last one, you would want to put something indicative of being in a Chinese facility, like the last one had. That's why the Chinese is there, if you ask me, and then if it is wrong, well, that makes the photo fake.

Still, people have yet to flame me for accusing it as a fake and yet saying the real thing will probably look almost exactly like it. That's a pretty nasty position to take, no?
 
xsnightclub said:
Someone suggested earlier, that this maybe from a film camera given the possible date stamp being crossed out after scanning.

someone earlier was talking about whether or not the metadata included a photoshop signature, which got me thinking, doesn't really matter if it didn't. Anybody can take a modified image at hi resolution, take a photo or scan of it, and save it as a regular image, right? Or wouldn't that work? But anyway, if you originally took the photo with a camera with a date on the image, and took one again, you'd have overlapping dates, which I thought might be another possible reason for blacking it out.
 
Could you guys please take a short, two-hour break? I'm going to my parents' house for dinner, and if you don't take a break, there's absolutely no way I'll be able to catch up. Thank you very much for your consideration.
 
polyesterlester said:
Could you guys please take a short, two-hour break? I'm going to my parents' house for dinner, and if you don't take a break, there's absolutely no way I'll be able to catch up. Thank you very much for your consideration.

Good one.
 
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