Do you guys not remember that the handwritten number 7 was written on the leaked 5G ipod as well. Maybe they just put it on to match the previous one as part of the fake. Or there could be some system in use where they handwrite which station it was tested on, or which Quality Control person inspected it. This is a comman practice of marking objects with stickers to know who inspected it.nagromme said:
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danielwsmithee said:
Doesn't matter, but if my account was accurate there was a Q, a "hei" character, a 3, a 2, another 3, and that was it. A 7 from the last one, no. But, it is interesting to note that the last one was considerably more sloppy and less explicable. This new one is a time-consuming job. But that's a bit different from the Chinese, which is both wrong and the job of a non-native, from what I have gathered. I could understand if it were hurriedly done, like the last, but tracing over characters and such, the neatness of everything object-wise... It could be a lot of things but it looks like a rather careful version of the last real pic.
David S said:
This was mentioned someone about 12 pages ago and someone said that its possible that this particular one failed the blue color test, and they were going to dispose of it. The colors just seem to vivid to me to be coming off of a screen though.
to the arguments of...
1. ergonomics
since when did apple design hardware for user comfort? apple designs for beauty and intution first, and does not compromise simple design with ergonomics. the best examples are apple keyboards and mice.
2. artifacting
photoshop sleuths are trying to say that because there are artifacts it means the image is fake. as you can see from the curve blasted images i posted earlier, the real 5G ipod had more artifacting than the supposed 6G. artifacts=fake = moot.
3. serial numbers
B... 8... OS X server... who cares? the numbers on my 5G ipod box dont match up with the stickers on the leaked 5G photos either.
4. details, details, details
the reflection on the taped-on brown tag; the 'crystal rim' on the far right and the inner left edges; the luminance through the sticker from the red, blue, and black swatches behind it and even the inner bezel of the screen; plus the guy used crinkled-up plastic packaging foam as a backdrop;
everything checks out and anything weird can be excused by jpeg artifacting or an overexposed CCD on a cheap camera phone.
5. this side up
i can read chinese and yes the writing looks a little suspicious to me, but writing with a marker often distorts the thickness of strokes. EVERYONE will have their handwriting change with a marker. and to whoever said that the characters can only be derived from a font... cmon... how many people use double-storey lowercase a's all the time? not very many but some people do despite kindergarten teachers teaching single-storey lowercase a's
1. ergonomics
since when did apple design hardware for user comfort? apple designs for beauty and intution first, and does not compromise simple design with ergonomics. the best examples are apple keyboards and mice.
2. artifacting
photoshop sleuths are trying to say that because there are artifacts it means the image is fake. as you can see from the curve blasted images i posted earlier, the real 5G ipod had more artifacting than the supposed 6G. artifacts=fake = moot.
3. serial numbers
B... 8... OS X server... who cares? the numbers on my 5G ipod box dont match up with the stickers on the leaked 5G photos either.
4. details, details, details
the reflection on the taped-on brown tag; the 'crystal rim' on the far right and the inner left edges; the luminance through the sticker from the red, blue, and black swatches behind it and even the inner bezel of the screen; plus the guy used crinkled-up plastic packaging foam as a backdrop;
everything checks out and anything weird can be excused by jpeg artifacting or an overexposed CCD on a cheap camera phone.
5. this side up
i can read chinese and yes the writing looks a little suspicious to me, but writing with a marker often distorts the thickness of strokes. EVERYONE will have their handwriting change with a marker. and to whoever said that the characters can only be derived from a font... cmon... how many people use double-storey lowercase a's all the time? not very many but some people do despite kindergarten teachers teaching single-storey lowercase a's
Does anyone recognize the font that the code is written? I think we can't be really sure if its a 'B' or an '8' since we don't have something to compare, so if we know how a real 'B' or '8' looks like we can compare it to the one on the sticker.
I'm not saying that happened, just coming up with the only explanations I could for why the faker would use such a label, and how a real device could have used such a label. As I said, though, BOTH explanations are weak--weak wether it's real or not.iMeowbot said:
Thanks. I actually used to use that hand-lettered font because it's truer to the movie, but I liked the bold/modern version better.(L) said:
Maybe someone took a picture of a defective unit and wanted to show off the two cyan color bars to someone for a second opinion. So snap it with his camera phone, show a supervisor for the opinion instead of bringing him to the station. Just a thought...
As for the sticker not touching the screen and kind of floating...maybe there is a clear plastic film over the entire surface we can't see to protect whatever this is from scratches and sticker marks. When I got my iPod all those years ago, I am pretty sure it had a plastic covering over the whole thing. Same with any other brand new iPod.
There are way too many different factors for me to decide on this. Like with the two cyan color bars, could be defect or maybe poor camera...or maybe the angle distorted the color of the LCD screen.
I can't say I believe it is 100% real product with an LCD screen of some sort, but I'm pretty close to thinking that. As for an iPod or Apple product, I just seriously don't know what to think. Starting to get a feeling that someone is just trying to mess with our heads. Think about it, if it is the real deal, someone could have thrown the sticker on their to just screw with us for a few days. If it is fake, same goes for that. Could just simply be there to screw with us and have no real relevance.
Also just give up with image enhancements to figure out if it is an 8 or B, the enhancements just can sway it either way depending on what you do to it. The 8/B is just too blurry to enhance it properly. Give it a rest, there is no sure way to tell.
I don't think there is any way to be sure what this is unless the person that took/provided the picture comes forward or we wait till tuesday. The picture just has too many unanswerable qualities about it. (8 or B, artifacts or photoshop marks...list goes on and on.)
Little side note...forgot to quote the person. Whoever said the thing about the first 3 pages and some of the last is dead on. The middle is just a bunch of people rambling, there even was literally a few spelling related posts. So tip of the hat the person that said that.
As for the sticker not touching the screen and kind of floating...maybe there is a clear plastic film over the entire surface we can't see to protect whatever this is from scratches and sticker marks. When I got my iPod all those years ago, I am pretty sure it had a plastic covering over the whole thing. Same with any other brand new iPod.
There are way too many different factors for me to decide on this. Like with the two cyan color bars, could be defect or maybe poor camera...or maybe the angle distorted the color of the LCD screen.
I can't say I believe it is 100% real product with an LCD screen of some sort, but I'm pretty close to thinking that. As for an iPod or Apple product, I just seriously don't know what to think. Starting to get a feeling that someone is just trying to mess with our heads. Think about it, if it is the real deal, someone could have thrown the sticker on their to just screw with us for a few days. If it is fake, same goes for that. Could just simply be there to screw with us and have no real relevance.
Also just give up with image enhancements to figure out if it is an 8 or B, the enhancements just can sway it either way depending on what you do to it. The 8/B is just too blurry to enhance it properly. Give it a rest, there is no sure way to tell.
I don't think there is any way to be sure what this is unless the person that took/provided the picture comes forward or we wait till tuesday. The picture just has too many unanswerable qualities about it. (8 or B, artifacts or photoshop marks...list goes on and on.)
Little side note...forgot to quote the person. Whoever said the thing about the first 3 pages and some of the last is dead on. The middle is just a bunch of people rambling, there even was literally a few spelling related posts. So tip of the hat the person that said that.
steebu said:
Umm, yeah, those people write the wrong (are they, even?) a's to be cutesy. Really, you can't hope to distort copying a font into a lower case a? You may be able to read Chinese but you need to realize that writing is a bit different. In writing Chinese/Japanese characters, there are many differences just with pencil, pen, brush.... The strokes, you must remember, are from brush strokes - the font that matches this most closely, if I remember right, is something like "STKai". All the other Chinese Mac fonts I have give you newsprint type characters, which are designed for legibility and thickness. Which reminds me, this sort of handwrtiting isn't possible just because you are using a felt marker. Nice guess, er, bad guess. And markers don't usually get thicker as you write unless you press down or let it bleed, which is not the case here. Clearly retraced. So that blows your notion of mysterious variable-thickness super handwriting altering felt pens. If the hoaxer had written "up", it would have been a 3 stroke character without any curves and with no difference between the fonts, not to mention far more sensical than "this side" or "here". A little suspicious? How much Chinese have you seen? Only in print?
New Pic!!!
Hey all. A new pic has surfaced at MacShrine. Here's the URL:
http://www.macshrine.com/2006/02/24/another-image-of-ipod-video/
And here's the pic below.
Hey all. A new pic has surfaced at MacShrine. Here's the URL:
http://www.macshrine.com/2006/02/24/another-image-of-ipod-video/
And here's the pic below.
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Perhaps the artists are inspired by each other, perhaps it's true. Who knows..
Perhaps the artists are inspired by each other, perhaps it's true. Who knows..
That's suspicious just from being too clean and simple a shot, but it doesn't look bad. I'm going to guess the original is real and this one is just imitation. (All guesses.)
Prediction: discussion will now proceed into flooring materials, in an effort to judge the scale of the image. Experts from THAT field will crawl from the woodwork
Like the other shots, it could potentially be faked by photoshopping two 5G photos, one with the screen on the left and one on the right--and retouch the middle. Anyone want to make some fakes like that just to stir the pot? I was thinking of doing it with my 4G
Prediction: discussion will now proceed into flooring materials, in an effort to judge the scale of the image. Experts from THAT field will crawl from the woodwork
Like the other shots, it could potentially be faked by photoshopping two 5G photos, one with the screen on the left and one on the right--and retouch the middle. Anyone want to make some fakes like that just to stir the pot? I was thinking of doing it with my 4G
nagromme said:
Actually, it is bold but I'm getting mixed evidence of it being modern. See, it's not physically possible to write like that with a brush, and in Japanese it's simply the standardized print style for better legibility. In Chinese, I presume the same since there is a font for brush-like Chinese. I can't imagine why it would be common for Chinese to use the newsprint version as handwriting, since that messes up the stroke number and legibility when handwritten; the only reason I say I am not certain is that I would have to get reliable confirmation, and it seems like anything is possible in such a vast country with so many other things I think are weird (like communism). I'm pretty sure they were not using print form in handwriting back in the 70s...it is inconceivable to me that they should choose to screw with the handwriting.
It is bolder though. I do think it looks nice bold.
Here is a larger version:
http://translate.google.com/transla...utre-photo-volee&langpair=fr|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8
http://translate.google.com/transla...utre-photo-volee&langpair=fr|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8