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LoMo said:
Noticed that all my Chinese characters became '?'s, so let's try again. The characters I was referring to was ? for simplified form and ? for the full ('traditional') form. The old 5G word was initially thought to be ? but probably not.
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Ok, how are you getting asian characters to show up right?
 
nagromme said:
It IS consistent with an LCD grid captured in a camera image that has its own pixel grid interfering: a classic moire. (There would be no need to clone in that area after all.)
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I'm an Imagery Information Analyst, I analyse imagery for a living and from my career experience I can tell you that the "pattern effect" on the LCD, OLED or whatever it is can only be cause by poorly cloned areas of details in GIMP or Photoshop.

Yes they have cloned another LCD or OLED source but the capture area was very small hence the repeditive "wave pattern" on the overall screen.
 
A little off topic...

Does anyone remember what the original website that printed the now legendary "I put on my robe and wizard hat..." IRC comedy stuff..

it was www.bit********.com , or something similar ?

There were some real golden internet moments on there, you can see my thinking here..
 
Might I point out that the Chinese characters that say "This Side" or "zhè bi?n” are actually written incorrectly. The second character, "bi?n" in the photo has an extra stroke at the top left. Also, they're written very poorly and it looks as though whoever wrote them went over the same lines several times with his marker. There are several breaks in the writing and strokes don't connect. Whoever wrote it was copying it slowly from a reference. Obviously not someone who knows anything about speaking, much less writing, Chinese. If a native Chinese wrote it, the strokes would be connected and curved as though written in cursive, because he wouldn't take several minutes copying the characters from what was probably a typed reference.

Here's how it should look...
 

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If they could sneak ut one photo then they could have sneaked out 2 or 3. That they haven't makes me think its a fake. Logically the second shot should be of the back with the Apple logo...
 
aswitcher said:
If they could sneak ut one photo then they could have sneaked out 2 or 3. That they haven't makes me think its a fake. Logically the second shot should be of the back with the Apple logo...
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We only got one shot of the 5G iPod, didn't we? I'm actually asking.

I don't remember a backside photo for that leak or even a second one.
 
clusta2 said:
Yeh, weren't there confirmed reports a while back that Apple was going to make a device with wi-fi and stuff, like an ipod, but smaller than an iBook..?
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I still think that's a bigger device than an iPod or vPod [video Pod]. I'm thinking the PDA/Tablet hybrid thing [MacPod/MacPad].

I just spoke with a friend of mine who's a teacher and just bought a 15" Powerbook today.

She was describing a device that, in her words,"was like an oversized PDA about the size of a piece of paper" that her and the other teachers sync to their ibooks and PowerBooks. i think she called it an "InterWrite" or something like that.

HONESTLY! It was just a random comment that she made that caught my attention because it sounds just like what I've posted several times I think the MacPad would look like.
 
MacQuest said:
I still think that's a bigger device than an iPod or vPod [video Pod]. I'm thinking the PDA/Tablet hybrid thing [MacPod/MacPad].

I just spoke with a friend of mine who's a teacher and just bought a 15" Powerbook today.

She was describing a device that, in her words,"was like an oversized PDA about the size of a piece of paper" that her and the other teachers sync to their ibooks and PowerBooks. i think she called it an "InterWrite" or something like that.

HONESTLY! It was just a random comment that she made that caught my attention.
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That was interesting!:)
She should've waited until tuesday...

That sounds cool, did she say if it was an Apple product or not??
 
clusta2 said:
That was interesting!:)
She should've waited until tuesday...

That sounds cool, did she say if it was an Apple product or not??
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No she didn't. I just Googled "Interwrite" and found this website:

http://www.gtcocalcomp.com/interwriteschoolsuite.htm and these products:

- Interwrite SchoolPad:

"The newly-released InterWrite SchoolPad 400 is a Bluetooth® wireless pad that gives you control of your computer... "

- InterWrite iPanel:

"Combine the advantages of an LCD monitor with the simplicity of using a pen-input device using this 15" TFT display."
 
In regards to the Apple tablet, Aren't those just widgets or something? Or a dashboard? screenshotted..
Looks strange to me...

The last photo looks good but it seems to be quite large and you can get the side of it from any 5g ipod.. easy to fake.

I think it'd also break pretty easily.

I hope we've all stopped bickering...
 
firebox said:
Does anyone recognise the icon running in the dock on the UI pics !?

this thing looks awsome! although the last pic looks slightly super-imposed and i am not sure that it would run OSX in full....any thoughts??

(have we all stopped bickering now!??) ;)

http://www.macshrine.com/
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Wow! That does look nice. Combine that virtual keyboard, possibly multi-point touch sensitive input, and Apple's design with these already existing [Mac Compatabile] products, "InterWrite SchoolPad & iPanel" http://www.gtcocalcomp.com/interwriteschoolsuite.htm and...

I think we got the MacPad/MacPod!
 
Oh yeh one last thing, if you look at the first photo:

A) open with textedit: ÿØÿà JFIF  d ÿì Ducky   d ÿî Adobe dÀ in first line.
B)Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that the frontrow icon?
Where's the IR sensor on the tablet?
 

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clusta2 said:
Oh yeh one last thing, if you look at the first photo:

A) open with textedit: ÿØÿà JFIF  d ÿì Ducky   d ÿî Adobe dÀ in first line.
B)Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that the frontrow icon?
Where's the IR sensor on the tablet?
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A) Cropped using Photoshop or whatever, i think this has allready been covered as NOT being proof of a fake.
B) I was refering to the book and pen icon (and also maybe the quarter circle thing in one of the shots)

No IR, WI-FI!!

...I'm not trying to disprove your arguements, merely adding to the fire ;)
 
xsnightclub said:
MS is set to release the new iPod killer on Monday the 27th, The day before Apple's special event.

In a related interview with Bill Gates on the 50 Billion Dollar investment with Sony to brand and co-create a new player, he said "We are confident that we have packed features into our new portable music device that Apple wouldn't ever think of putting in the iPod. You see, Apple has cornered itself into a design that is essentially flawed. The form factor of the iPod simply would not allow for a cassette tape interface. In addition to the great removable media, we also did a little copying of Apples wildly popular Shuffle, you notice that there is no display on our new player either."
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I can't even imagine how bad a software product from Sony AND Microsoft would be
 
xsnightclub said:
The form factor of the iPod simply would not allow for a cassette tape interface.
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UH-OH. I better get all... none... of my cassette tapes ready to play in the Phonysoft "iPod killer."

xsnightclub said:
you notice that there is no display on our new player either."
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This after all their initial attempts to downplay the shuffle's lack of display "mistake." :rolleyes:

"...we also did a little copying of Apples wildly popular Shuffle..."

micrapsoft copied Apple?! That never happens. They usually only "reverse-engineer" Apple's innovations.
 
While the Macshrine pics are cool, I think it's fake for this reason: the key that says "#'s". That seems un-Apple, and the way I understand grammar, "#'s" is improper. Apostrophes are to show possession, not to make it plural. It should be "#s", but I think Apple would do something else. Maybe "Num Pad" or have a little picture of a number pad. It's just a little thing, but remember the iHome, boxes: "Centre" gave it away.

Plus, it's huge. Judging from the scale of the CD, it's as big as my 20" iMac screen. It's just too stinking big. I'd want something 8 1/2 x 11 at most, but I think 5x8 like a small legal pad would be better. The scale is just way off from anything reasonable.
 
OneTimeInformer said:
I just was just sent this photo from another source. It was also sent to ThinkSecret and AppleInsider, but you saw it here first. Apparently was shot in one of the packaging places in China.
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I dub thee "Grainy."

https://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41790&stc=1&d=1140854460


clusta2 said:
Oh lol i wanna see his reaction!
I got this from a friend who's really obseesed with apple. Dunno where he got it? maybe another site..
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I dub thee "Croppy."

https://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41792&d=1140859726


firebox said:
Some more cool pics from MacShrine.... I'm off to change my pants...:cool:

http://www.macshrine.com/
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I dub thee "Barn Door."

(Seriously, that creates a whole new class of portable computer that requires 2 people to carry :D I'm not falling for that, nor the Wacom pen with it :) Not that it pretends to be the same device we've been discussing here anyway. BUT still a fun mock-up to think about what kinds of things might come one day. If it were much smaller, maybe 6"-11" diagonal I'd be interested!)


ezekielrage_99 said:
I'm an Imagery Information Analyst, I analyse imagery for a living and from my career experience I can tell you that the "pattern effect" on the LCD, OLED or whatever it is can only be cause by poorly cloned areas of details in GIMP or Photoshop.

Yes they have cloned another LCD or OLED source but the capture area was very small hence the repeditive "wave pattern" on the overall screen.
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Your comment is interesting, but I still have to dispute your conclusion. I can't imagine any reason why someone would build up that test pattern by cloning tiny areas from a photo. They'd simply take a photo of the whole thing and paste THAT on. Also, so much of the fake (if it's fake) is skillfully done (light behind the sticker) etc. that they'd never leave "cloning marks" that can be seen at 20 paces. Also, what I see is a similar pattern, not a truly repeating pattern as bad cloning would create.

The moire effect in this photo can be seen in other photos of LCDs if the scale is right and colors aren't so bright they wash out the fine lines. Such as:

http://gallery.ilounge.com/ipod/albums/ipod5G/ilounge_copyright_ipod5G42.JPG

http://gallery.ilounge.com/ipod/albums/ipod5G/ilounge_copyright_ipod5G904.jpg

http://gallery.ilounge.com/ipod/albums/ipod5G/ilounge_copyright_ipod5G918.jpg

(From iPodLounge's 5G iPod review here.)


(L) said:
Ok, how are you getting asian characters to show up right?
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Paste the Chinese character(s) (or ANY symbol, like the joystick in my sig) here:
http://www.pinyin.info/tools/converter/chars2uninumbers.html

Copy the resulting Unicode strings and use them in your post. BUT if you preview or edit the post at all, the characters will change from Unicode to real characters, which then show up to everyone as question marks. So if you edit or preview, be sure to paste the Unicode numbers in AGAIN. Any time you Submit a post, the characters must be in Unicode form.
 
cleanup said:
Might I point out that the Chinese characters that say "This Side" or "zhè bi?n” are actually written incorrectly. The second character, "bi?n" in the photo has an extra stroke at the top left. Also, they're written very poorly and it looks as though whoever wrote them went over the same lines several times with his marker. There are several breaks in the writing and strokes don't connect. Whoever wrote it was copying it slowly from a reference. Obviously not someone who knows anything about speaking, much less writing, Chinese. If a native Chinese wrote it, the strokes would be connected and curved as though written in cursive, because he wouldn't take several minutes copying the characters from what was probably a typed reference.

Here's how it should look...(pics not quoted)
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Umm, yeah, I covered this a loooong time ago, but I don't blame you -- all that's been covered in 42 pages of poor imitations, lousy excuses about illiterate supervisors, 7's, 8's, B's...you name it, it's there. Anyway, you had a handwritten version and I just used the STKai font (looks as if written with brush). From the retracing and the font-like script, we can tell the writer in the original hoax was A)non-native, B)putting some effort into it, & C) a dork, for copying the font. Ok, C is unfair. But a few people have piped up about how stupid workers are and that engineers/supervisors find it necessary to label everything...to those people, I say, consider your hopeful supervisor a dork. Who painstakingly copies it from a font, adds a dot by mistake, retraces part of it, and ends up writing "this side" (or "here") instead of the intended "this side up," when almost any idiot can write the 3-stroke character "up"? A dork, that's who. A very convenient, miraculous dork that was probably mute or working alone at the time, unable to tell somebody better equipped to label the thing.

The cable can only physically go in one way! For the love of humanity! Lol. Some people sure want to believe in the test-screen I guess. I mean, everything about the photo was extremely unrevealing. Imagine if the preceding 5G pic showed no clickwheel, no UI screen, no hardware interface, just a meaningless screen surrounded by a border, both of which we assume to be present in the real product. That's basically what's happened with this hoax.

By the way, I know in Japanese no such radical with two dots exists, but I need confirmation to claim so is true in Chinese. My point is, if no such radical exists, that's just one more piece of evidence for a person not writing poorly or from memory, but from a computer screen / print material.

Anyway, about 3~5 of us have actually seriously investigated the Chinese and find it to point to a hoax, or at least not to a native or anyone with half a brain able to copy well/use the right word/tell somebody else to do it. If you still want to believe in a hoax Apple hasn't shot down, you'll want to stick hard to the illiterate dork supervisor theory. Or come up with new garbage. I'm sick of arguing against how it might be remotely possible to get so many things wrong (and like a hoaxer) when it comes to labeling a cable that'll only go in right one way in the first place. The label was probably made to cover up a brand or such as well as to include Chinese to mirror the previous 5G pic.
 
clusta2 said:
Oh lol i wanna see his reaction!
I got this from a friend who's really obseesed with apple. Dunno where he got it? maybe another site..
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This proves my Earlier Point. which was

janitorC7 said:
ok. I'm going to tell you what this really is, and quite frankly its kinda obvious.

First of all time for a little Return of the Pod Episode 1 (for those of you that Dont know what I mean think about the first gen Ipod). Anybody ever get a serious scratch on those, NO (well at least not without effort). if you look at the picture you will realize the depth of the screen (if you cant notice this then concentrate on the plastic and look for an end, you can see this because of the lighting. there is depth) This leads me to beleave that apple is adopting a tougher plastic. How are they going to make this work? This of the latest apple patent, it was the ability to add digital camera type sensors in-between the LCD Tabs. Additionally you can tell that this is not a photoshopped version of an old ipod due to the fact that on the right side you can notice a metal strip, this most likly means that then metal not covers the side. Why? so that the sensors dont pic of surrounding items (this is due to the design of said sensors) additionally the dimensions are different than the current iPod. And the connector is that of the Multimedia ipod connector from monster,( which was used by SJ at MWSF) this is also used with 5G's that have the latest ipod Linux to record onto your ipod from an outside source..

There you go its REAL>>>>>

Weather it is a real APPLE product I cant say, but it without a doubt a real IMAGE
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Notice the side of the image they are using a thicker plastic like the 1 and 2 G I pods
 
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