iPod iPod Video Scratches

[devman]

For those of you who keep slamming anyone who complains about the scratches and who notice the number of newbies who are complaining, I guess you are right. There is no problem, it's just a bunch of whiners deciding to waste their time over nothing. I'm glad your iPods are not scratched, I'm also relieved to know that mine isn't either, it was all in my mind and my absurd expectation that a $300 product might have a better shell than a $30 item. Your praise for the guts of the iPod are worthy (no sarcasm for that one), but the point is that the $10 shell should have been a $20 one and not the cheap (yes I said it and I'm right) one that doesn't hold up as well as other clear coatings. My agenda is to have a product that I take care of and not have it ruined in a few months because it is scratch prone. What is your agenda in slamming the ones who post their issues in a thread about scratches. If you want to sing the praises of iPods, do it in a new thread called "I Love the iPod no matter what it looks like, and I don't care what happens to others". Before you assume no one has a problem, do what I suggested and go to a store where these things are displayed beside cheaper products. The point is that cheaper products hold up better. Would I expect a $10 DVD to to be scratched LESS than $400 one? NO! I would actually expect them both to be about the same. If my $400 dvd was made of a less durable product than the cheap ones, and it scratched MORE, I would be unhappy. That's the point here, the cheaper products are protected better. I guess your world is flat since that's all you can personally see from your yard. Everyone who has traveled around the world and says it's round must be wrong in your small frame of reference. Also don't assume that the people that are complaing are idiots that don't know how to take care of their "baby". I have several thousand dollars worth of photography equipment, a couple thousand dollar telescope, and professional video euipment. I have taken quite good care of it all and I know know how to treat lenses and other "shiny" objects to take ensure they don't get damaged. I bought this product because of it's functionality, to be able to have the video capabilty. That capability will be diminished when the display is hard to see through hundreds of tiny scratches. If the audio developed tiny hisses from regular play, and over time became mosly overcome by white noise, would you be happy? It's the same thing with the video. I don't care if the back is scratched all up, this isn't about wanting some shiny piece of art. I DO CARE about scratches in my video window. If you buy an HDTV and you find out that the screen scratches up badly, are you going to keep praising the guts of the system or are you going to be upset? Put it in perspective.

Wow, now that's sanctimonious with a capital F...

Just because my iPod doesn't have hundreds of scratches on it simply by inserting/removing it from the supplied case (as claimed elsewhere in here) then I believe the world must be flat?

How ****ing ironic that with all the heavily implied moralism in your message, you then act even worse against the very same values and than those you accuse.

Another newbie too...

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

um, if it isn't about the look then why are you pissed about the hair line scratches (or whatever the kids are calling it these days).

If it were hairline scratches, I wouldn't mind. But these are deep scuffs on my nano. The back of the nano is just fine. No different in wear than my older iPods. The front looks like the thing is three years old.

Also, I'd like to point out that the advancement in technology has made the ipod thinner and has more memory and plays videos for the same price as the 20gb 4g. Would you prefer a different audio/video player over the 5g ipod? I'd like to also note that I have had my 30gb 5g for over a week now, used it a ton (work, night class, around the apartment, and on the subway) and I have not noticed any sort of scratches. However, I have purchased the shield just in case of major scratches (i'm kinda anal about how I treat my baby, i mean ipod).

First have held off on buying the 5G iPod because of concerns for scratches. Only because of my experiences with the nano so far.

I am all for technology advancing. And the style of the nano and 5G's are sweet. But it is possible that Apple's choice of material for the front of these was poorly chosen.

I would have no issues in buying a 4G version of the 5G feature set. That case design has been proven to me to wear well. But since the 5G shares a common look with the nano, and most likely materials - I think I may wait for Apple to make changes in the 6G models next year.

It really is disappointing to see so many people complain about what they didn't get and not talk about what they did get. Like little kids complaining on Christmas, makes you regret not using a condom...ok, enough about my personal life...

LOL... good one <g>. I see your point, but Apple has maintained the $300 and $400 price points. If they had increased the tech, lowered the build and the price at the same time - I doubt that I would complain much.

If you ever had a new car, you know how some of us are feeling with our iPods after the first dent or scratch on your car. The difference is that the previous iPods were pretty good at wearing their age well. It seems not so for the nano and 5G's.

I know its $300, and I do agree that if apple came out with a more pricier ipod, same specs, but with a better shell, I'd probably buy one. But would as many people who are buying them now? I think apple considered a lot of things before they went through with production, I'm sure they weren't just like, "ITS SHINNY! GO WITH IT!"

IMO, it appears that Apple went for looks with the 5G. And did not concern themselves as to how people really used them.

 

[kev0476]

My ipod video is doing fine and i have had it for about two weeks, yes there are scraches but they are only noticable when you are watching an episode of lost that is dark, you know what there isn't much to see when it is dark in the episode.

And also the screen is much bigger than the others, perhaps it is just there are more scraches becasue there is more surface area.

 

[drater]

If it were hairline scratches, I wouldn't mind. But these are deep scuffs on my nano. The back of the nano is just fine. No different in wear than my older iPods. The front looks like the thing is three years old.



First have held off on buying the 5G iPod because of concerns for scratches. Only because of my experiences with the nano so far.

I am all for technology advancing. And the style of the nano and 5G's are sweet. But it is possible that Apple's choice of material for the front of these was poorly chosen.

I would have no issues in buying a 4G version of the 5G feature set. That case design has been proven to me to wear well. But since the 5G shares a common look with the nano, and most likely materials - I think I may wait for Apple to make changes in the 6G models next year.



LOL... good one <g>. I see your point, but Apple has maintained the $300 and $400 price points. If they had increased the tech, lowered the build and the price at the same time - I doubt that I would complain much.

If you ever had a new car, you know how some of us are feeling with our iPods after the first dent or scratch on your car. The difference is that the previous iPods were pretty good at wearing their age well. It seems not so for the nano and 5G's.



IMO, it appears that Apple went for looks with the 5G. And did not concern themselves as to how people really used them.

I don't think it is really fair to compare the ipod to a new car. But I understand the gist of what you're getting at. It seems like a lot of the problems are coming with the black models. Maybe that's their issue. I don't know, my white video ipod looks great, and like I said before I'll substitue vanity for techonolgy any day and I've used this thing like crazy. I think apple also went for the look, but they also replaced the casing with stronger material (stronger in the sense that it won't break, but has a higher tendency to scratch).

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

I don't think it is really fair to compare the ipod to a new car. But I understand the gist of what you're getting at. It seems like a lot of the problems are coming with the black models. Maybe that's their issue. I don't know, my white video ipod looks great, and like I said before I'll substitue vanity for techonolgy any day and I've used this thing like crazy. I think apple also went for the look, but they also replaced the casing with stronger material (stronger in the sense that it won't break, but has a higher tendency to scratch).

Well, I will have to see how things go with the new nano white that I won. It will give me something to compare my black nano to on the "wear" issue.

About equating an iPod to a car. There is a pride in ownership. From what I have seen the issues with the nano and the 5G are based on those of us that have owned the 1 through 4G iPods. Those seemed to have worn well with time. The new 5G's don't seem to hold themselves to the same level.

How would you feel if your new 2006 Corolla suffered more to dings and scratches that the 1999-2005 models?

 

[MarkMarc]

This once again convinces me never to buy anything brand new (design/generation) to the market. Too much that can't be tested.

 

[drater]

Well, I will have to see how things go with the new nano white that I won. It will give me something to compare my black nano to on the "wear" issue.

About equating an iPod to a car. There is a pride in ownership. From what I have seen the issues with the nano and the 5G are based on those of us that have owned the 1 through 4G iPods. Those seemed to have worn well with time. The new 5G's don't seem to hold themselves to the same level.

How would you feel if your new 2006 Corolla suffered more to dings and scratches that the 1999-2005 models?

I never owned a 1st generation ipod, but I did own a 2nd, 3rd and a 4th. And I do love this one more than any of those. I feel it is a better quality ipod "all around", not saying there couldn't be better adjustments to it, but it think its the best one thus far. However, after reading through the forums again, it really seems like the black one is the one that needs to be fixed up. My girl has a white nano and she hasn't gotten any crazy scratches on it, and she treat that thing like a peice of crap (she isn't to tech savy if you know what I mean).
And the car thing...if I got my 2006 all dented up, I would be upset...at myself. And, if I read reviews about it, found that it scratched by "touching" it or something like that. I wouldn't buy it! That's an investment you need to think about more so than an ipod. However, if you think about the ipod as more than just an impulse buy, then you should research it, "test drive" it, etc. I do understand where you are coming from. I owned a black nano until I sold it to get this one, and it did scratch a little more than I would have hoped, however, I wasn't upset enough to go out and file a lawsuit against apple. We all do expect apple to come out with quality products, but we shouldn't expect such said quality product to be flawless, that would just be ridiculous.

 

[neonart]

I never owned a 1st generation ipod, but I did own a 2nd, 3rd and a 4th. And I do love this one more than any of those. I feel it is a better quality ipod "all around", not saying there couldn't be better adjustments to it, but it think its the best one thus far. However, after reading through the forums again, it really seems like the black one is the one that needs to be fixed up. My girl has a white nano and she hasn't gotten any crazy scratches on it, and she treat that thing like a peice of crap (she isn't to tech savy if you know what I mean).

I agree 100%, and I don't even think it has to do with the black either. I've owned a 1st, 2nd, 3rd(still have), 4th (U2), and now 5th gen Black. All have been great. Yes, the 5G takes the cake as far as beauty and features and I find it just as good in durability. I'm treating it just like all the others (worse than the 1st and 2nd gen which I kept in a rubber case). All I have on mine is a MF 2.5" screen protector which I got about a week after the iPod. I use the case it came with sometimes, sometimes not- whatever. It has held up just fine since I got it a few weeks ago.

I was overly concerned with all the people complaining about scratches before buying so I went to the Apple store and looked at their demos and they were fine. I figured they'd look like a piece of Plexiglas that'd been dragged over concrete for 2 miles, but they were Ok. Used by thousands of people they still looked normal- screens perfectly readable.

I have not found this iPod to be any different in quality compared to the others. This is my opinion, based on my experience with my Black 5G iPod.

Attached is photo of my iPod after about 3 weeks of carefree use. I use it daily in the car, at home, and at my shop (automotive). You can see the fingerprints all over the thing, but nothing major.

I think everyone here is interested in seeing photos of these scratched up iPods. Please post these so we know what's going on.

 

[matticus008]

How would you feel if your new 2006 Corolla suffered more to dings and scratches that the 1999-2005 models?

Well, for one it would be silly to buy so many Corollas, and secondly, I wouldn't be able to attribute it to the new design. I could easily find a 2001 Corolla that looked better than a 2005 Corolla. It's all variable--the new design isn't to blame for your worsened luck, especially if it's made out of the same materials as your last one.

Take a car with a matte finish versus one with a clearcoat. Which is harder to keep looking brand new? The one with the clear coat. It'll have to be washed more, and it will show wear and tear more as it dulls, and scratches will interrupt that brilliant surface more obviously. The 4G iPod didn't have the brilliant, mirrorlike clearcoat. I suppose you could have your car (or the iPod) repainted to correct/eliminate that glossy finish, but the dealer would laugh at you for complaining that they made your new car too shiny.

If you want to compare it to a car, there it is. If I were still unhappy with my car after all that, I'd sell it and buy something else.

 

[lolex]

Would any of you folks who freaky about the hairline scratches on Nano and Video ipod stands up , suggests a metarial which could be stronger and scratch-proof to replace the current material used, however not to make a thicker ipod?

How many of those are really savvy enough to point out where is the design flaw happens onto the new ipods?

Personally, I believes we don't have on this planet any better material to replace the currents one, if this tinyness retains.

The new ipods are the most advanced and beautiful one ever produced among the Ipod family.

 

[balamw]

suggests a metarial which could be stronger and scratch-proof to replace the current material used, however not to make a thicker ipod?

I'm happy with my 5G, but there are plenty of materials such as the synthetic crystals (usually sapphire Al2O3) that are used in watch faces that various people have brought up various times that would not increase the iPod's thickness. However they would increase the iPod's cost and probably its weight (sapphire is about 4x as dense as polycarbonate). Using those materials on something like the mini might work though since the screen is smaller so the cost weight differences are smaller.

Let me reiterate, my 5G is now 3 weeks old and has not a scratch on it front or back. I kept it in the plastic and the grey case until I applied the Martin Fields protector and now I'll sometimes put it in a shirt pocket without the case, but still generally keep it in the case.

Maybe I'm just lucky, or maybe I learned my lesson from my 4G which was scratched to heck by this point. My cell phone too was scratched until I put on a WriteRight protector.

B

 

[lolex]

there are plenty of materials such as the synthetic crystals (usually sapphire Al2O3) that are used in watch faces that various people have brought up various times that would not increase the iPod's thickness.

Nice suggestion, thanks dude.

But you gotta agree the ipod screen is really thinner than a watch face,
would sapphire be too likely to crack when slimmed to this level this surface area ? since resistance to a given pressure will be counter proportional to its surface area.

 

[drater]

Nice suggestion, thanks dude.

But you gotta agree the ipod screen is really thinner than a watch face,
would sapphire be too likely to crack when slimmed to this level this surface area ? since resistance to a given pressure will be counter proportional to its surface area.

I say they just make a diamond ipod with a coat of some space aged scratch resistant material, never crack and never scratch. That way the product could be flawless but nobody could afford it. That's how apple could make it in the business world. Make a beautiful product with no flaws that no one could afford. I'm sure they will maintain their 74% market share that way.

 

[drater]

Neonart, nice picture, but you have some fingerprints on it, might want to take it back.

 

[neonart]

Neonart, nice picture, but you have some fingerprints on it, might want to take it back.

OH NO! You're right! My iPod sucks! Apple sucks! There are fingerprints all over my iPod! OUTRAGE! CLASS-ACTION! DEATH!

 

[Konradx]

Neonart, nice picture, but you have some fingerprints on it, might want to take it back.

I avoided this problem by buying the new Invisible Shield gloves..i never get fingerprints on my ipod anymore!

 

[steve_hill4]

I avoided this problem by buying the new Invisible Shield gloves..i never get fingerprints on my ipod anymore!

I avoided this problem by burning my fingerprints off my hands. Nice and smoth now and I am less likely to be accused of commiting a crime.

 

[cheekyspanky]

More of a problem than the scratching issue is the interference my iPod seems to suffer when anywhere near a mobile phone..I was on the train tonight and had problems with the volume turning up and down of its own accord when the guy next to me was sending text messages.

 

[davidcb13]

More of a problem than the scratching issue is the interference my iPod seems to suffer when anywhere near a mobile phone..I was on the train tonight and had problems with the volume turning up and down of its own accord when the guy next to me was sending text messages.

Ive never heard anything like this. And further more it dosent really make sense to me... I think it was probably just a coincidence

 

[cheekyspanky]

Ive never heard anything like this. And farther more it dosent really make sense to me... I think it was probably just a coincidence

I can reproduce it myself by waving either of my phones near the iPod (Samsung D600 and a Motorola V3x) - it causes the backlight to come on, and the volume will become erratic.

It's odd - and on a train full of people with mobiles, potentially ear damaging!

 

[drater]

I can reproduce it myself by waving either of my phones near the iPod (Samsung D600 and a Motorola V3x) - it causes the backlight to come on, and the volume will become erratic.

It's odd - and on a train full of people with mobiles, potentially ear damaging!

i just tried that, i have a v3 myself. didn't do anything....weird.

 

[lolex]

More of a problem than the scratching issue is the interference my iPod seems to suffer when anywhere near a mobile phone..I was on the train tonight and had problems with the volume turning up and down of its own accord when the guy next to me was sending text messages.

It's sounds weird, I think this not likely to be happens since the ipod is working in it's close circuit, shouldn't be interfered in this case.

 

[Scratchpod]

"newbies"

Just a comment for all you "newbie" haters out there. The reason so many newbies are posting on how badly the Nano and 5G scratch is because we are people who recently ordered this product and noticed how badly it scratched after about 3 days. We then went on-line and found this thread about called "Ipod Video Scratches." From there we expressed our concern only to be argued with and accused of lying? For what reason? What do we have to gain? Were not accusing you of working for Apple to promote a new product! Although that makes a lot more sense than your arguments! It scratches, everyone knows that owns one.

The Invisishield jokes are funny though!

On the plus side, I polished out my scratches and put on a Martin Fields protector. Very nice! It is crystal clear and as scratch resistent as the Ipod should have been.

 

[lolex]

Just a comment for all you "newbie" haters out there. The reason so many newbies are posting on how badly the Nano and 5G scratch is because we are people who recently ordered this product and noticed how badly it scratched after about 3 days. We then went on-line and found this thread about called "Ipod Video Scratches." From there we expressed our concern only to be argued with and accused of lying? For what reason? What do we have to gain? Were not accusing you of working for Apple to promote a new product! Although that makes a lot more sense than your arguments! It scratches, everyone knows that owns one.

The Invisishield jokes are funny though!

On the plus side, I polished out my scratches and put on a Martin Fields protector. Very nice! It is crystal clear and as scratch resistent as the Ipod should have been.

Chill down , dude.

No one here claims you're a liar , passion on ownings differs with various peoples, your sentiment is understandable.

I respected for everyone's speech here, since the new ipods were announced , there are disputes among scratch issues allover the place, myself , like the others I ownned one of those and just wants to share my experiences in the issue, I found those scratch things on ipod are really too faint to enough border me much n too hilarius to class a lawsuit.

 

[matticus008]

The criticism of newbie posters is valid. Newbies are often people that come to instigate arguments, troll, or otherwise generally cause trouble. That's not to say that all newbies are like that, but simply that as someone new, you've earned neither trust nor respect in the community and we can't tell whether or not to believe you until you build up trust. The newbie posters here bring lots of words and no pictures. Most of them have not commented in any other threads. As contributing members of this forum, they have no standing and any researcher would toss them out as errant data.

Some newbies aren't like this, and actually go on to become valuable members of the forum. Some stay newbies for a long time but make valid, pertinent, respected posts. That's why we identify people here based on their involvement...to weed out the random person coming off a Google search just to make some random complaint. Newbie posts are always doubted when they lack insight or prudence or substance. People who want to overcome this will become involved in the community in more than one thread and lose that noob title, or at least bring some support to the table.