It's not penalising to prevent large corporations taking the piss out of the tax system.
I hope there is something in life that you are good at since it clearly isn't market economics.
It's not penalising to prevent large corporations taking the piss out of the tax system.
That's the main reason why Apple is there. I could see Apple moving out of Ireland if the loophole is eliminated.
It's like those negative externalities things in economics class. Want to encourage unemployment? Subsidize it!
Are you a new account of NewishMacGuy?
Thats ridiculous, they've been there since the 80's they're hardly going to shut up shot because of this. They've used us for long enough.
Should have given us a few Apple Stores in the Republic since the 80's. Its a disgrace that we don't even have one on Irish soil and Apple are established in Ireland for over 30 years.
At least then they would have at least a small validity to their tax declarations of profits as they genuinely were made in the Republic of Ireland. And who knows it may have put the corporate tax rates on the long finger for another little while.*
*Although i know Apple has very little to do with the Changes expected.
Apple could easily pay more in taxes, not raise cost or lower quality and still make huge profits. No company has a right to 33% profit margins.
Theft.
"The second measure to be included in the Finance Bill is a change to our company residence rules aimed at eliminating mismatches -- that can exist between tax treaty partners in certain circumstances -- being used to allow companies to be 'stateless' in terms of their place of tax residence," the country said in a press release on Tuesday.
If he's not, then he's Newish's new best friend.
Guess I better get my copy of the Federalist Papers ready, cuz he's gonna show up down in PRSI sooner or later.
No it isn't because I prefer to think correct things. Thinking that would not be thinking a correct thing.
*sigh* No.
The money isn't just sitting in a bank account. If they had it stuffed in a mattress your argument would have merit.
Private enterprises do benefit the economy/society or the simply cease to exist. Governments on the other hand...well...not so much.
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That's fine.
Then I won't get wrapped up in a conversation with someone who obviously doesn't understand how taxes are theft and are taken by force (or the threat of).
Gross profits. But I somehow doubt that you know what "gross profit" means.
Newish has a distinct writing style that isn't present here.
If he's not, then he's Newish's new best friend.
Guess I better get my copy of the Federalist Papers ready, cuz he's gonna show up down in PRSI sooner or later.
Eh, they've both got that laconic response thing going on.
It could be his brother or something. Who knows?
Corporate taxes are hidden taxes on consumers. Does no one think taxes aren't figured into the prices of products?
The US is also one of the only countries that double taxes people and businesses. If you are an American you have to pay income taxes no matter where you earn money in the world, and even if you pay taxes to a foreign government. Same for businesses. I'm sure every foreign customer would love to pay American taxes because Apple has to pay taxes to the US government off international sales if they were forced to bring that money back to the US. This is why all these companies use tax shelters. It's not illegal but when they are dealing with a greedy US government who thinks they have world wide tax jurisdiction this is what happens. Personally I'd rather have lower priced goods than the false notion that taxing businesses isn't just an indirect tax on consumers.
If the article is accurate, this has to do with tax residency, which is unrelated to your ideological stance.
Eh, they've both got that laconic response thing going on.
It could be his brother or something. Who knows?
I would disagree. Newish actually provides detail, even if I find some of the assumptions necessary to interpret his logic to be ridiculous. He's also at the very least amusing. This guy just relies on the use of emotive language, speaking of which I like the word "laconic". Few people use it.
Again, the best economies this world has ever known took place in nations that employed progressive taxation.
I know that money would be much better in the hands of our government rather than waiting in the banks of a company like Apple that may very well be used to pay for the R&D of a revolutionary new piece of tech.
The internet. Touchscreens. GPS. All invented by government funded research.
If he's not, then he's Newish's new best friend.
Guess I better get my copy of the Federalist Papers ready, cuz he's gonna show up down in PRSI sooner or later.
I don't see how. Taxes are theft, period.
almost as bad as the russian tax laws but no swat team breaking down your door to take your money
Beyond that you haven't offered any evidence of this overly broad conclusion beyond your own emotionally charged banter with a couple tacked on teenage colloquialisms.
I'll leave you to your limited world view.
If Ireland "ends the tax loophole," all the companies that 'operate out of Ireland' will simply leave, to a more favorable tax climate*, leaving Ireland worse-off.
How dismissive.
Try not paying your taxes. Tell us all what happens. Tell us then whether it doesn't start looking a lot like theft.
I'm sorry if your biases and deductive limitations prevent you from seeing this basic truth.