iPhone 11 Pro Is 11 Pro worth the extra $300 vs 11?

[The-Real-Deal82]

Nah, i had a non tech relo update over xmas from a 7 plus, she got the 256gb pro max, just wanted the biggest iPhone available, wanted SG all she could get was gold, didn't care or even know about any of the extras it had over the 11, as an example.
All i said was it's the biggest iPhone with the best camera and she went and got it, i set it up. Didn't care or doesn't even know what the phone was worth, same monthly $$ with more data as the 7 plus was all she cared about.
Didnt even look at a 11 lol. Not everyone goes cheap.

Why are you so dismissive of any other example on this thread and feel you are absolutely right in every post? We all know people with iPhones and different subjective reasons for which model they go for. Why start a response with ‘nah’ like you’re dismissing completely what I say? You then end the post taking a dig at the 11 and labelling it as ‘cheap’, is that to fish for reactions?

I know people like your relative who got the 11 Pro Max and thought about the £80p/m cost afterwards. I know people who cringe at spending that much. It takes all sorts and the fact the mid tier devices sell the best suggests there is a significant proportion of the market who enjoy the benefits of the iPhone 11. Might be time to accept that.

 

[nill1234]

Ohh then its a pretty stupid consumer and a perfect example for our society and the people making debts for consumer goods. I always compare costs and value i get and always buy my phones unlocked without a monthly plan. The 11 is really good in this department. The screen is awesome and i dont mind the bezels, normally i am used to nearly no bezels and oled and 90 Hz.

 

[bobsamm]

Yeah nah, 11 is still not worth the $$, you will never convince me, give it up I'm not interested.
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Ohh then its a pretty stupid consumer and a perfect example for our society and the people making debts for consumer goods. I always compare costs and value i get and always buy my phones unlocked without a monthly plan. The 11 is really good in this department. The screen is awesome and i dont mind the bezels, normally i am used to nearly no bezels and oled and 90 Hz.

Sure good phone for facebook and instagram
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Why are you so dismissive of any other example on this thread and feel you are absolutely right in every post? We all know people with iPhones and different subjective reasons for which model they go for. Why start a response with ‘nah’ like you’re dismissing completely what I say? You then end the post taking a dig at the 11 and labelling it as ‘cheap’, is that to fish for reactions?

I know people like your relative who got the 11 Pro Max and thought about the £80p/m cost afterwards. I know people who cringe at spending that much. It takes all sorts and the fact the mid tier devices sell the best suggests there is a significant proportion of the market who enjoy the benefits of the iPhone 11. Might be time to accept that.

Was no where near that and was paying same last 2.5 years, no cringing. Can you go buy a 11 so you actually have some credibility?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Yeah nah, 11 is still not worth the $$, you will never convince me, give it up I'm not interested.

Was no where near that and was paying same last 2.5 years, no cringing. Can you go buy a 11 so you actually have some credibility?

I hit the nail on the head then. You’re here purely to belittle iPhone 11 owners and to leave salty one liners designed to provoke and fish for reactions. How very constructive of you.

 

[bobsamm]

I hit the nail on the head then. You’re here purely to belittle iPhone 11 owners and to leave salty one liners designed to provoke and fish for reactions. How very constructive of you.

Not at all, unlike your agenda in every thread like this.

 

[Mac2019]

So, away from the above bickering and back to the topic, I decided to try the 11 pro max out as would never be sure until doing so. Arrived this morning and have used it for 10 mins or so and can't really tell a huge difference between it and the XR. What should I look at to really understand the difference between LCD and OLED, because on first look I can't see much. I don't get all the fuss about OLED. I appreciate that I need to use it for longer than 10 minutes to make a decision but on first glance I can't see much difference. What other extra features am I missing? Going to take a couple of days to decide but first impressions are that it is lovely but unsure I can justify the price uplift. Even if I decide to get a new one in order to give my wife my XR, I'm currently struggling to see where the extra £22/month for the Pro Max over the 11 (pro max £53.99 v 11 £31.99) is going to be justified. That said, if I get the 11 I imagine I will look at it and say "this is an XR with a marginally better camera" and send that back! Maybe, just maybe, I go for the 11 on the iup as a middle ground option and will then be in a good position to upgrade at the end of the year if I like any of the 2020 models. Also, at this point all of my short term debts will be paid off so I will be in a position where a 'luxury' purchase won't feel as much of a splurge as it does now (that said, I can afford it either way but it's just the psychology of having 30-40% extra disposable income taking some of the indecision out of the decision).

Maybe I am harder to please at the moment as my last upgrade was enormous (6 to XR) and this is truly incremental.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

So, away from the above bickering and back to the topic, I decided to try the 11 pro max out as would never be sure until doing so. Arrived this morning and have used it for 10 mins or so and can't really tell a huge difference between it and the XR. What should I look at to really understand the difference between LCD and OLED, because on first look I can't see much. I don't get all the fuss about OLED. I appreciate that I need to use it for longer than 10 minutes to make a decision but on first glance I can't see much difference. What other extra features am I missing? Going to take a couple of days to decide but first impressions are that it is lovely but unsure I can justify the price uplift. Even if I decide to get a new one in order to give my wife my XR, I'm currently struggling to see where the extra £22/month for the Pro Max over the 11 (pro max £53.99 v 11 £31.99) is going to be justified. That said, if I get the 11 I imagine I will look at it and say "this is an XR with a marginally better camera" and send that back! Maybe, just maybe, I go for the 11 on the iup as a middle ground option and will then be in a good position to upgrade at the end of the year if I like any of the 2020 models. Also, at this point all of my short term debts will be paid off so I will be in a position where a 'luxury' purchase won't feel as much of a splurge as it does now (that said, I can afford it either way but it's just the psychology of having 30-40% extra disposable income taking some of the indecision out of the decision).

Maybe I am harder to please at the moment as my last upgrade was enormous (6 to XR) and this is truly incremental.

You touch on my main point of the cost difference being huge for perhaps very little. Of course the value in specific features varies on the person and their expectations. I haven’t seen the 11 Pro Max for anything less than around £60 a month with a data plan, yet an XR or 11 can be had for around £30p/m. That’s the hard sell for most I think when the cheaper alternatives offer perhaps 95% of what the 11 Pro offers for nearly half the price per month.

 

[Mac2019]

You touch on my main point of the cost difference being huge for perhaps very little. Of course the value in specific features varies on the person and their expectations. I haven’t seen the 11 Pro Max for anything less than around £60 a month with a data plan, yet an XR or 11 can be had for around £30p/m. That’s the hard sell for most I think when the cheaper alternatives offer perhaps 95% of what the 11 Pro offers for nearly half the price per month.

Agreed, and I think I wanted to experience the difference to fully put my mind at rest. I’ll play with it for a day or so to see if my head is turned but at the moment I can’t justify paying £54 a month (plus my data plan) for something that seems so similar. Even down to the bezels, I thought they’d be much smaller on the pro max; yes they’re smaller than the xr and 11 but not really anywhere near as ‘screen to screen’ as I expected. I get the design is more premium (metal edges etc.) but can I pay more for that when it will be covered with a case anyway? Struggling.

Almost made the decision to return it and my next call will be whether to get an 11 on iup which will enable me to get whatever the next one is, in Dec/jan.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Agreed, and I think I wanted to experience the difference to fully put my mind at rest. I’ll play with it for a day or so to see if my head is turned but at the moment I can’t justify paying £54 a month (plus my data plan) for something that seems so similar. Even down to the bezels, I thought they’d be much smaller on the pro max; yes they’re smaller than the xr and 11 but not really anywhere near as ‘screen to screen’ as I expected. I get the design is more premium (metal edges etc.) but can I pay more for that when it will be covered with a case anyway? Struggling.

Almost made the decision to return it and my next call will be whether to get an 11 on iup which will enable me to get whatever the next one is, in Dec/jan.

Yeah when a data plan is added the cost is nearly double in my experience and personally I can’t see what I’m getting for that? I’ve been using an XR for the past 6 months and it’s a solid phone. I don’t get this criticism of the screen and certainly can’t tell the difference in normal use to my 8+. I get that OLED is crisper and the blacks are true black, but so what? When I’m using the phone it’s not something I’m overly analysing. I get your point about the premium edges and like yourself these would be hiding theses under a case as these phones are fragile as hell.

I think you really need to love the Pro range to be compelled to spend on the premium. If these devices were around the £700-800 mark then this probably wouldn’t be discussed but price does make you evaluate what exactly you are getting for your money. I’m fortunate in that I can afford the 11 Pro but when the iPhone 11 is available at £300 less, I question what the point is? Everybody is different though and I will respect others reasons so long as they are not attempting to belittle others for not spending more.

 

[MisterSavage]

Maybe I am harder to please at the moment as my last upgrade was enormous (6 to XR) and this is truly incremental.

Did you try night shot photos? Did you test how long the battery lasts?

I used my 11 Pro extensively for hours yesterday and was so pleased that I saw I still had 39% battery in the late afternoon. It continues to amaze me how much better the battery life is. Night shot lets me take pictures I could have never taken before.

The X to XS was incremental. I absolutely do not feel that way with XS to 11 Pro.

 

[Mac2019]

Did you try night shot photos? Did you test how long the battery lasts?

I used my 11 Pro extensively for hours yesterday and was so pleased that I saw I still had 39% battery in the late afternoon. It continues to amaze me how much better the battery life is. Night shot lets me take pictures I could have never taken before.

The X to XS was incremental. I absolutely do not feel that way with XS to 11 Pro.

No, haven’t tried night shots yet as only got the phone at 11am. Will use it for a whole day and night so I can check out such features to see if they sway me.

No idea about the battery as am working from home and so have only used it for a few photos and web browsing therefore no battery analysis is possible. My xr battery is great so it isn’t a major concern, albeit getting the best battery you can is always a key factor in an iPhone purchase. No doubt the pro max will be better than the xr but I’ve got 100% battery health and get circa 7.5 hours screen time per full cycle so don’t think that will be enough to persuade me to spend £54 a month.
Any other key features I’m missing?

Perhaps I’m in the ‘doesn’t notice finer details’ camp because I can’t see much of an upgrade from xr to pro max. I do like the extra size but that’s not enough on its own.

 

[sean000]

Maybe I am harder to please at the moment as my last upgrade was enormous (6 to XR) and this is truly incremental.

I went from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone X, and yes... the difference was dramatic in just about every way: Speed, reliability, display, camera system, etc. From the iPhone X to the 11 Pro is less dramatic. It almost feels like the same iPhone... slightly faster. Battery life is indeed much better (even on the 5.8 inch 11 Pro), but I recall the battery life being much better on my iPhone X when it was brand new. The camera system is better in every way. As a photographer I get excited about the ultrawide lens, night mode, and other improvements. The camera system is the reason I upgraded, but many people will not find that reason enough for themselves. If it wasn't for the camera system improvements, I would have just kept my iPhone X and replaced the battery when it got too old (it was at about 83% of original capacity). As far as LCD vs OLED... I go between the LCD of my iPad and the OLED of my iPhone and Apple Watch all the time. The OLED does provide some power savings, but both display types look great to my eyes. I don't really care about the look of the sides and back since I use a case.

So yeah... it's mostly about the camera system (which is mostly about gaining the ultrawide and night mode), and that's going to excite some more than others.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

Not at all, unlike your agenda in every thread like this.

I’ve watched this thread since day one and the member you are arguing with has been one of the most level-headed on this topic. He has merely pointed out alternative possibilities, thought processes, and rational counter-points all while maintaining an open mind and remaining cordial.

You on the other hand have dismissed every thought that doesn’t agree with your personal opinion. To the point where you state “Yeah nah, 11 is still not worth the $$, you will never convince me, give it up I'm not interested”. In other words, you’re flat-out saying to everyone here that unless they agree with you, move along. That’s a great attitude.

 

[aue123]

i used the XR for a year because the XS had horrid signal on verizon, then with the new 11 pro max having the new intel chip i didn’t have any issues so i stuck with it.

i don’t think i’ve heard anyone talk about signal strength .. just my .02

 

[Ste_J]

So, away from the above bickering and back to the topic, I decided to try the 11 pro max out as would never be sure until doing so. Arrived this morning and have used it for 10 mins or so and can't really tell a huge difference between it and the XR. What should I look at to really understand the difference between LCD and OLED, because on first look I can't see much. I don't get all the fuss about OLED. I appreciate that I need to use it for longer than 10 minutes to make a decision but on first glance I can't see much difference. What other extra features am I missing? Going to take a couple of days to decide but first impressions are that it is lovely but unsure I can justify the price uplift.

I’ve been watching this thread for a few days and debating moving from XR to Max pro. I mainly use my XR for pretty much everything web based.
Been waiting for somebody to mention that they are comparing to the XR

can I ask how do you find the screen difference in terms of size? Is it noticeably bigger? I have tried looking and comparing in shops but nothing beats having both side by side.
I’ll also be using the Phone for camera but I guess you wouldn’t have had time to compare yet


Also is weight comparable to the XR?
Thanks in advance

 

[bobsamm]

I’ve been watching this thread for a few days and debating moving from XR to Max pro. I mainly use my XR for pretty much everything web based.
Been waiting for somebody to mention that they are comparing to the XR

can I ask how do you find the screen difference in terms of size? Is it noticeably bigger? I have tried looking and comparing in shops but nothing beats having both side by side.
I’ll also be using the Phone for camera but I guess you wouldn’t have had time to compare yet


Also is weight comparable to the XR?
Thanks in advance

If you read the Op's first post its comparing the 11 pro v 11, not pro max. Plenty of those threads already.

 

[Ste_J]

If you read the Op's first post its comparing the 11 pro v 11, not pro max. Plenty of those threads already.

Pretty sure Mac2019 was comparing pro max to XR. Thanks for response though although I’ll await a response from the person I was asking the question to 😀

 

[bobsamm]

Pretty sure Mac2019 was comparing pro max to XR. Thanks for response though although I’ll await a response from the person I was asking the question to 😀

Opening comment lol, start at the beginning.

So comparing both as the 64gb models, is the 11 Pro (not the Pro Max) worth the extra $300 vs the "regular" 11?

 

[Mac2019]

I’ve been watching this thread for a few days and debating moving from XR to Max pro. I mainly use my XR for pretty much everything web based.
Been waiting for somebody to mention that they are comparing to the XR

can I ask how do you find the screen difference in terms of size? Is it noticeably bigger? I have tried looking and comparing in shops but nothing beats having both side by side.
I’ll also be using the Phone for camera but I guess you wouldn’t have had time to compare yet


Also is weight comparable to the XR?
Thanks in advance

Screen size - a nice increase but not huge, ideal I’d say. I did wonder before I opened it whether I’d be put off by the big screen, but I’m not. I do a lot of reading on my phone so big is good. It’s interesting how you get used to different sizes; when I had my 6 i upgraded to the 8+ but found it too big and cumbersome, however after a year of the xr I’ve fully adjusted and the pro max (basically same overall size as 8+) feels fine, but couldn’t go bigger for one handed use. That is definitely the max size wise, for me.

Camera is better but have only has chance to do some shots around the house and in the garden. Thar said, xr camera is great as well and the upgrade to pro max is nothing like the 6 to xr.

Can’t really tell the difference in weight, even when xr is out of the case. I mean, yeah, it is slightly heavier but literally would never notice. It’s grams.

I’ll update when I use it more!

The one downside is the size of the bezels; expected them to be barely noticeable but they’re hardly any smaller than the xr.

 

[Ste_J]

Screen size - a nice increase but not huge, ideal I’d say. I did wonder before I opened it whether I’d be put off by the big screen, but I’m not. I do a lot of reading on my phone so big is good. It’s interesting how you get used to different sizes; when I had my 6 i upgraded to the 8+ but found it too big and cumbersome, however after a year of the xr I’ve fully adjusted and the pro max (basically same overall size as 8+) feels fine, but couldn’t go bigger for one handed use. That is definitely the max size wise, for me.

Camera is better but have only has chance to do some shots around the house and in the garden. Thar said, xr camera is great as well and the upgrade to pro max is nothing like the 6 to xr.

Can’t really tell the difference in weight, even when xr is out of the case. I mean, yeah, it is slightly heavier but literally would never notice. It’s grams.

I’ll update when I use it more!

The one downside is the size of the bezels; expected them to be barely noticeable but they’re hardly any smaller than the xr.

Thanks Mac20019
And apology to the resident thread police officer
I should have said that I am trying to work out the move from XR to 11 in general and therefore given that the Max is the most expensive then it seems logical to understand if going that far up the ladder is worth the spend

Seems silly to raise another new thread when somebody here is already discussing the XR to 11 variants

Once again apology if I upset anybody. I shall endeavour to only ask questions that relate directly to the original question asked at the start......
Thanks again Mac2019

 

[bobsamm]

Thanks Mac20019
And apology to the resident thread police officer
I should have said that I am trying to work out the move from XR to 11 in general and therefore given that the Max is the most expensive then it seems logical to understand if going that far up the ladder is worth the spend

Seems silly to raise another new thread when somebody here is already discussing the XR to 11 variants

Once again apology if I upset anybody. I shall endeavour to only ask questions that relate directly to the original question asked at the start......
Thanks again Mac2019

You do realise in a forum anyone can comment? Giving a apology ending with to the resident thread police office is just being a SA.

Xr is the same phone as the 11 with better camera and A13 v A12. If you mean 11 pro/max then it's heaps better.

 

[nill1234]

The 11 shows exactly the same content as the 11 pro max. So you wont get more content on the screen. If you dont need the telephoto lens there is not much left for the price difference. The improved real ppi if you also count subpixels is worth a look but not as good as advertised.
Iphone 11 pro and max have 373 sppi and the iphone 11 326 sppi.

 

[Mac2019]

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[nill1234]

Here you go: https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions

 

[Mac2019]

Here you go: https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions

Interesting. Well that’s another tick in the box for not keeping it. Why carry around a bigger phone if the screen shows the same?!