Is a 4" screen going to be enough?

[onthecouchagain]

But that's where we differ...slightly cumbersome is too cumbersome. I want not cubmersome at all.

You have every right to feel slightly cumbersome is too cumbersome. So if Apple goes with a larger screen device, I fully expect you to call them out on the egregious mistake of making it "too cumbersome" to use now. I take it from your post that you're implying that's unacceptable, correct? Will you not get future iPhones if they remain larger? I take your word for it.

Here's what I predict will actually happen (this isn't necessarily directed at you, ApplefanDrew):

Come October, give Apple the chance to explain why they've gone with a larger screen, and only then will the 3.5-ers realize the benefits, and also realize how capable they are to handle it with one hand and/or fit it into their pockets after all.

 

[applefanDrew]

You have every right to feel slightly cumbersome is too cumbersome. So if Apple goes with a larger screen device, I fully expect you to call them out on the egregious mistake of making it "too cumbersome" to use now. I take it from your post that you're implying that's unacceptable, correct? Will you not get future iPhones if they remain larger? I take your word for it.

Here's what I predict will actually happen (this isn't necessarily directed at you, ApplefanDrew):

Come October, give Apple the chance to explain why they've gone with a larger screen, and only then will the 3.5-ers realize the benefits, and also realize how capable they are to handle it with one hand and/or fit it into their pockets after all.

I've said many times on these forums...3.5 is perfect to me. But I'm an apple guy. My phones for the rest of my life will be iPhones. If they go with 4...I want the taller not wider 1136X640 screen. When you add that on the top and bottom of the current sceen it is still very usable one handed. I will embrace it but I would prefer they stick with 3.5.

 

[sk1wbw]

I've said many times on these forums...3.5 is perfect to me. But I'm an apple guy. My phones for the rest of my life will be iPhones. If they go with 4...I want the taller not wider 1136X640 screen. When you add that on the top and bottom of the current sceen it is still very usable one handed. I will embrace it but I would prefer they stick with 3.5.

Notice how your post got downgraded because you like the iPhone? This forum is going to ****. There's something wrong when an Apple forum has users that downgrade a post by someone who likes an Apple product.

 

[Sedrick]

Notice how your post got downgraded because you like the iPhone? This forum is going to ****. There's something wrong when an Apple forum has users that downgrade a post by someone who likes an Apple product.

I suspect he got down-voted because he still wants the old 3.5" screen and/or is advocating the horrid taller screen with the same skinny width.

Myself, I give Apple more credit than that crappy taller screen abomination.

 

[Lindenhurst]

Sooooo because the rumormill has it that 4" is going to be the new design.... the majority of iPhone lovers here who took the time to vote declare it the "sweet spot".
I guess that "sweet spot" will change in a couple of years when Apple boasts the size again. If Apple made the new screen 4.125", would that be the new "sweet spot" ? I guess the sweet spot is whatever Apple declares it to be.

 

[mlmwalt]

I would prefer the current size. I don't want some huge honking screen, that's why I got my "the New iPad". I'd prefer a longer lasting battery and LTE. Just my humble opinion.

 

[surjavarman]

I prefer that the next iphone will get a 3.5" screen.


CAUSE I JUST BOUGHT AN ANDROID!!! And I don't want to feel bad when the next iphone has a 4.7" screen. If its 3.5" then at least my purchase is justified and I feel good about myself.

 

[Technarchy]

Tim Cook needs to be strong and resist the idiocy that bloggers and Internet whiners advocate. Listening to those people would turn Apple into the new HP overnight.

Apple needs to stay focused on user experience and great products. Following android with obnoxiously large displays, fragmentation, and thinking short term should never become part of Apple culture.

 

[Lindenhurst]

Tim Cook needs to be strong and resist the idiocy that bloggers and Internet whiners advocate. Listening to those people would turn Apple into the new HP overnight.

Apple needs to stay focused on user experience and great products. Following android with obnoxiously large displays, fragmentation, and thinking short term should never become part of Apple culture.

Yeah..Apple should disregard what the consumer says. That makes sense.... not!


Apple culture??? That makes me laugh.
I have a house full of Apple devices ( no iPhone anymore) . I own them because they work great, but I don't consider it Apple culture. If Sammy came out with a better computer than my iMac, I'd buy one.
Too many get all wrapped up in the "Apple name". I guess they feel like part of a group. Makes no sense.

 

[bpaluzzi]

Yeah..Apple should disregard what the consumer says. That makes sense.... not!

You're making a classic rookie mistake -- confusing geeks and geek bloggers for any reflection of the general public. But, nice timely use of the "... not" joke, I suppose.

Apple culture??? That makes me laugh.
I have a house full of Apple devices ( no iPhone anymore) . I own them because they work great, but I don't consider it Apple culture. If Sammy came out with a better computer than my iMac, I'd buy one.
Too many get all wrapped up in the "Apple name". I guess they feel like part of a group. Makes no sense.

Wow, you totally missed the point. Apple culture = internal to Apple.

 

[mrochester]

Yeah..Apple should disregard what the consumer says. That makes sense.... not!


Apple culture??? That makes me laugh.
I have a house full of Apple devices ( no iPhone anymore) . I own them because they work great, but I don't consider it Apple culture. If Sammy came out with a better computer than my iMac, I'd buy one.
Too many get all wrapped up in the "Apple name". I guess they feel like part of a group. Makes no sense.

Who are these customers asking for larger screens though? Apple should listen to what the majority of people want. For all we know, that's a 3.5" screen.

 

[chambone]

Too many get all wrapped up in the "Apple name". I guess they feel like part of a group. Makes no sense.

Says a guy who calls Samsung Sammy

Do you feel like a part of err.. Sammy's group or something? Makes no sense.

 

[SR45]

Tim Cook needs to be strong and resist the idiocy that bloggers and Internet whiners advocate. Listening to those people would turn Apple into the new HP overnight.

Apple needs to stay focused on user experience and great products. Following android with obnoxiously large displays, fragmentation, and thinking short term should never become part of Apple culture.

Don't worry about that Technarchy. Steve Jobs/Cook and company have never caved in from those bloggers if one just reads the Apple history.

 

[Lindenhurst]

Says a guy who calls Samsung Sammy

Do you feel like a part of err.. Sammy's group or something? Makes no sense.

Not part of any group actually.I just buy whatever device suits my needs, but I'm loyal to no manufacturer.

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You're making a classic rookie mistake -- confusing geeks and geek bloggers for any reflection of the general public. But, nice timely use of the "... not" joke, I suppose.




Wow, you totally missed the point. Apple culture = internal to Apple.

Guess I did.

 

[Spectrum Abuser]

If they only bump the iPhone up to a "4 screen then my buying decision will be easier in terms of what I'd not look into. I'm tired of having a small screen because I watch a lot of videos/movies and it's starting to strain my eyes. My next phone will at the very least have a "4.3 screen or an even better "4.7-"4.8 screen.

 

[dsa1971]

You have every right to feel slightly cumbersome is too cumbersome. So if Apple goes with a larger screen device, I fully expect you to call them out on the egregious mistake of making it "too cumbersome" to use now. I take it from your post that you're implying that's unacceptable, correct? Will you not get future iPhones if they remain larger? I take your word for it.

Here's what I predict will actually happen (this isn't necessarily directed at you, ApplefanDrew):

Come October, give Apple the chance to explain why they've gone with a larger screen, and only then will the 3.5-ers realize the benefits, and also realize how capable they are to handle it with one hand and/or fit it into their pockets after all.

I wouldn't want anything larger than 4.3. I had the Samsung galaxy nexus for a couple weeks and it was pretty much not useable one handed. It fit in my pocket fine it was just too large.

 

[cosmorocket]

I am sorry. If it turns out to be 4 inches, then I am done waiting on Apple to make a larger display. I had hoped the increase would have occurred in the Iphone4. But, no dice. Now, I am waiting to see whether Apple will take a back seat to other phones that have pushed past the 4inch display or will they take a dip into a larger size option. I can not justify buying a 3.5 or 4 inch phone for my Dad and myself. Why is it other companies cater to folks that maybe challenged by vision or the lack of real estate (viewing area; yes, this does matter to some of us I guess). Why do I want to squint or better yet have my iphone screen duct taped to my face. The Samsung Galaxy III maybe in the cards...

 

[dsa1971]

I am sorry. If it turns out to be 4 inches, then I am done waiting on Apple to make a larger display. I had hoped the increase would have occurred in the Iphone4. But, no dice. Now, I am waiting to see whether Apple will take a back seat to other phones that have pushed past the 4inch display or will they take a dip into a larger size option. I can not justify buying a 3.5 or 4 inch phone for my Dad and myself. Why is it other companies cater to folks that maybe challenged by vision or the lack of real estate (viewing area; yes, this does matter to some of us I guess). Why do I want to squint or better yet have my iphone screen duct taped to my face. The Samsung Galaxy III maybe in the cards...

I get that you may not necessarily care about this point but the other companies are not, out of the goodness of their hearts, catering to vision challenged people. They believe the market desires larger screens on their smartphones. They care about your wallet not your vision Apple disagrees at least for now about a larger screen I would like a slightly larger screen but not as large as some of the other smartphones.

 

[OceanView]

I would love to see a 5.3" screen but I know Apple is not going to do that.
I wait and see what they bring in the next phone.
4" will be a big fail. I will get something else and move away from the iPhone platform.

 

[ChrisTX]

Apple need to get with the times and go with at least a 4.3" screen. I can use my sisters S2 with one hand easily. The people that want a small screen obviously don't use smartphones to their true potential, if they don't like a slightly bigger phone then go and buy a simple small Nokia or stick with the iphone4s while the rest of us enjoy a real size screen.

I have an iPad with Skype, and FaceTime functionality so what's your point? Most of us purchased iPhone 4S's knowing what was available to us, but made the conscious decision to stick with the iPhone. Not sure that a larger screen is really the deal breaker everyone around here thinks it is.

To everyone screaming that the iPhone screen is too small, why wasn't this noted as an issue with the original iPhone? What has made an otherwise nonissue suddenly become such a major one?

 

[milani]

4 inch is a good compromise between having a larger screen and the same exterior shell size. I wouldn't want the iPhone to get any larger. It's the ideal size for one-handed operation.

 

[colour]

I used the 4 inch Samsung Nexus S after I switched from the iphone 4. I thought the size was much better than apples current screen size. What I did miss is the form factor and industrial design of apple phones. I think they are hitting the sweet spot by combining a larger screen with their premium design.

All this aside, there is possibility of a 1920×1280 resolution for the 4 inch screen and I think that is what we should be really worrying about. Apple isn't going to make a galaxy note styled iphone when they have the ipad which is very successful. But if they increase the screen size they have to increase the resolution and DPI to a retina quality and I say they would double their current 640×960 res.

I miss iOS but at the moment the iphone's are extremely dated, it's year to two year technology and we are seeing really nice phones coming out from apples rivals. I can't wait to see what they produce, the new iOS has many great new features and we know that apple will outdo all its competitors in almost all aspects of their phones so expect big things.

side note: When I switched to the samsung nexus s I didn't miss apples screen size at all. Though I did miss the iphone PPI and the iphone design (form, materials, weight)

 

[onthecouchagain]

I wouldn't want anything larger than 4.3. I had the Samsung galaxy nexus for a couple weeks and it was pretty much not useable one handed. It fit in my pocket fine it was just too large.

Can you define "pretty much not usable"? Because this is an incredibly misleading argument about larger devices. Can they be a little more cumbersome to use? Yes, I can see that, depending on different people's hand sizes. Are they unusable? Hardly. This is a dramatic (and tiring) argument. Even for small hands, we're talking about screens in the range of 4, 4.3, or 4.6 inches being literally different by millimeters. Even if you want to talk dimensions, we're talking about changes ranging in the ~1 inch vicinity when talking about 4-4.6" screens. This is not that dramatic, and does not render a device anywhere near "unsable".

Like I said, if Apple does release a larger screen/device, I'm sure people will suddenly find it possible to use with one hand (and fit into their pockets, which is the other common argument). They might even come to like it! The trade offs of a larger screen device (easier to read text, easier to type, better for games, pics/videos, browsing, etc.) over a few millimeters is well worth it.

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To everyone screaming that the iPhone screen is too small, why wasn't this noted as an issue with the original iPhone? What has made an otherwise nonissue suddenly become such a major one?

Simple. It was a different time back then. It was before apps really took off (think about how popular gaming is now on iOS devices; they rivals Nintendo DSes), it was before typing became so much more common (more than phone calls now), it was before using a smartphone to watch movies and TV shows (streaming or downloaded from iTunes) became common, etc.

This is like asking, "why are low ppi screens an issue now when it wasn't before?" Standards have changed. Tastes have changed, and so forth.

 

[cardinalryan]

Can you define "pretty much not usable"? Because this is an incredibly misleading argument about larger devices. Can they be a little more cumbersome to use? Yes, I can see that, depending on different people's hand sizes. Are they unusable? Hardly. This is a dramatic (and tiring) argument. Even for small hands, we're talking about screens in the range of 4, 4.3, or 4.6 inches being literally different by millimeters. Even if you want to talk dimensions, we're talking about changes ranging in the ~1 inch vicinity when talking about 4-4.6" screens. This is not that dramatic, and does not render a device anywhere near "unsable".

Like I said, if Apple does release a larger screen/device, I'm sure people will suddenly find it possible to use with one hand (and fit into their pockets, which is the other common argument). They might even come to like it! The trade offs of a larger screen device (easier to read text, easier to type, better for games, pics/videos, browsing, etc.) over a few millimeters is well worth it.

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Simple. It was a different time back then. It was before apps really took off (think about how popular gaming is now on an iOS devce; it rivals Nintendo DSes), it was before typing became so much more common (more than phone calls now), it was before using a smartphone to watch movies and TV shows (streaming or downloaded from iTunes) became common, etc.

This is like asking, "why are low ppi screens an issue now when it wasn't before?" Standards have changed. Tastes have changed, and so forth.

I would just say that people that are against a larger screen have most likely never used a larger screen. Once you look at the brilliant display of an HTC One X, you see the difference.

I would absolutely love an iPhone with the display of an HOX, that would be a killer device. The difference in the "in the hand" feeling is not enough to justify not wanting a larger screen...in my opinion.

 

[HiddenPuppy]

I like the present size since I have my ipad. If I need a bigger screen I just go to the ipad. Makes like easier for me. Just my opinion.

HiddenPuppy