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iPhone X Is a 6.1" LCD iPhone X even possible?
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Why waste time with an LCD version when you can just make the OLED cheaper? Samsung have had stunning and market leading OLEDs on their phones for the past 3 years without charging a kidney.
I don’t agree the 6S got thicker than the 6, you’ve definitely got that wrong as I use the same case on my 6S that I had on my 6. I’ve just held a 6 and 6S side by side without cases for comparison and they are identical in thickness and width.
3DTouch is also very useful when typing, especially long texts and emails. Force pressing the keyboard and scrolling to a point in the text makes correcting mistakes so much easier. I can understand not using it but it’s far from being a gimmick. It’s much better than trying to touch the screen at certain points to correct mistakes as that used to be infuriating at times. Not including 3DTouch on a current iPhone would be a downgrade.
Awesome, pretty much proves my point then, 0.2mm lol. As a mechanical engineer I can comprehensively say beyond reasonable doubt that 0.2mm is unnoticeable to the human eye and you’d need a vernier gage to see a difference.
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It's not a noticable for the costumers but for the internal components it's something significant.Awesome, pretty much proves my point then, 0.2mm lol. As a mechanical engineer I can comprehensively say beyond reasonable doubt that 0.2mm is unnoticeable to the human eye and you’d need a vernier gage to see a difference.
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I doubt it since the X's display is curved at the bottom
I imagine this isn't possible to do with LCD since it's thicker and has more layers?
I enjoy this photo a lot for some reason. I don't have a tech background, but the technology in the way this is implemented is cool. Any chance you or anyone else off the top of their head know as to why they implement the curved OLED screen? Just seems to me that the bottom part is wasted screen.
I heard the display had to be curved in order to extended and remove the bottom chin like most smartphones have, so they could make an edge to edge display.
Yeah but that wasn’t the claim. It was claimed the 6S was ‘noticeably thicker’ and in fact it wasn’t. From a design perspective it’s more or less significant but from a user perspective it was unnoticeable.
I think the weight gain from 6 to 6s was more noticeable than the marginal increase in thickness.
Maybe this rumored 6.1” device is shedding 3D Touch to allow for some new under screen fingerprint sensor to work and this phone will not come with FaceID.
Maybe this rumored 6.1” device is shedding 3D Touch to allow for some new under screen fingerprint sensor to work and this phone will not come with FaceID.
That's not how Apple does things, they introduced FaceID, an OLED display and removed fingerprint sensors "Say hello to the future", "The smartphone design for the next decade". This pretty much tells us that Apple won't be going backwards by making the same iPhone X design without FaceID or OLED which they marketed so much as the next decade smartphone design much less remove 3D touch which has been a feature since the 6S and is part of the iOS UI language now.
True. I was just pointing out the theory thickness.
As long as they could get the iPhone to vibrate and act exactly like 3DTouch then I’d agree.Nothing the long press could not handle
I doubt it since the X's display is curved at the bottom
I imagine this isn't possible to do with LCD since it's thicker and has more layers?
Already proven possible on the first page of this thread.
Current LCD technology uses a plastic substrate which allows for bending.
JDI is already in full production for Full Active Flex.
It’s already been confirmed by Craig Federighi (Senior VP of Software engineering) that they are not going to use a fingerprint sensor under the display. Federighi stated in an interview that they experimented with that technology, but however they favored Face ID in place of it, because that was always “Plan A” and the fingerprint sensor on the display was Plan B.
Besides true wireless charging, Touch ID under the display, camera under the display and so on.
With all the rumors flying around at the time, I am not convinced that FaceID was Plan A. There were too many rumors pointing to an under the display fingerprint sensor and apple having too many issues with the technology including yield issues. Now obviously FaceID had to be in development for a long time, maybe years. But It is my belief that FaceID was not meant for the X. Either way, my belief is insignificant since FaceID is here
So what reasons do you believe that Federighi would even have to mention the experimenting at all with Face ID or Touch ID under the display? He or (Apple) doesn’t owe an explanation to anyone about what they experimented with. I have every reason to believe a software engineer wouldn’t have a reason to lie given he never had to address the media in the first place. Clearly Touch ID under the display was a consideration, but never Apples primary goal, regardless if there were any technological issues.
Well I don't expect Federighi to admit that FaceID was not meant for the X when the X was released with FaceID. That would make it sound like apple did not believe in FaceID and added it only because TouchID under the display would not work. There were just too many rumors from credible sources saying that apple was working hard at an under the display TouchID for the X. I am not saying that FaceID was a rushed solution. Obviously FaceID must have been in development for years given it's complex nature. In any event, what I believe is irrelevant as FaceID is what was released. I love FaceID, and I hate FaceID
Face ID was always Apples primary goal, there wasn’t any other option, aside from what they said they considered experimenting with, but was secondary. My point was, Federighi didn’t have to discuss face ID or any other experiments whatsoever. They don’t owe a. explanation to anyone about what they do behind the scenes with their technology. As secretive as Apple is, I’m surprised they gave as much information as they did when they discussed Face ID, but being its new technology, they were naturally posted questions with alternatives to Face ID, which there is no reason for evidence proving otherwise the touch ID under the display would not have been a possibility if Apple wanted it to be.
There were just too many rumors from credible sources saying that apple was working hard at an under the display TouchID for the X. I am not saying that FaceID was a rushed solution. Obviously FaceID must have been in development for years given it's complex nature. In any event, what I believe is irrelevant as FaceID is what was released. I love FaceID, and I hate FaceID
Yes, There were a lot of rumors that were indicating Apple working with touch ID under the display, which Federighi did confirm, however, I question the word “Credible”, as various analysts wouldn’t have any insight to Apples back end information.
Federighi’s primary motive to discuss FaceID in such detail was likely to fix public perception of it being a failure. We on MR know it worked by not working during the X reveal, but he had to do some damage control after that happened.
That is partially true, because he did want to clarify the misconception about what happened during the iPhone demo and why it did not work as intended, which Apple really had no choice to elaborate what exactly happened to prevent further scrutiny from their new iPhone technology.
But back to your original quote, the 6.1 LCD iPhone is not going to include touch ID under the display. All three models from the 6.1/5.8/6.5 are rumored to include Face ID. I think Apple made that really clear that Face ID is their first choice of biometric security in the future of the iPhone. And Federighi also stated that touch ID under the display was Plan B and that has been officially scrapped once Face ID was optimal.
I agree it probably won’t include TouchID but suggested it might merely as speculation to explain why this model is also rumored to be losing 3D Touch. Is that really such a costly feature that they can’t include it on a $700 phone?
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FaceID worked as intended, it’s the demo that didn’t go according to plan.