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What’s been forgotten here is the fact that the external power brick is rated for far more wattage than the m1 demands. Perhaps there were plans to have M1 Pro as a top sku which fell by the wayside?

The current m2/m2 pro mini suggests this is a possibility so would it be a big surprise to see m3/m3 pro in a next gen 24 iMac?
 
I'd like to see a nice basic 27" or larger iMac. People who don't need all the performance but just want a bigger 5k+ display. IMO an iMac Pro makes very little sense with the Mac Studio and Mac Studio Display combo being a much better value than the iMac Pro ever was.
 
There was a lot of YouTube video content editors that used the larger 23.5" screen to make multiple video sourced content that ran out of memory about 1/2 hour into content editing, hence the need for a 32 GB RAM 24" iMac. The M2 Pro would provide that. 16 GB Ram is just too little for that type of usage. M2 offering 24 GB is marginal.
For a value proposition the m2 doesn’t seem like a way forward, I might have speculated that apple might see it another way but they went and released an m2 pro mini so that could be how they allow for 32gb in an iMac.
 
What’s been forgotten here is the fact that the external power brick is rated for far more wattage than the m1 demands. Perhaps there were plans to have M1 Pro as a top sku which fell by the wayside?

The current m2/m2 pro mini suggests this is a possibility so would it be a big surprise to see m3/m3 pro in a next gen 24 iMac?
I think there was, but they opted not to do it. The 24" came out late April 2021. The M1 Pro/Max came out Oct 31st 2021, so could have done it a year later as an update.
 
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I'd like to see a nice basic 27" or larger iMac. People who don't need all the performance but just want a bigger 5k+ display. IMO an iMac Pro makes very little sense with the Mac Studio and Mac Studio Display combo being a much better value than the iMac Pro ever was.
Resurrecting the 27” iMac might be worth doing, but would they start it with m2 or m3 cpu for those users who just want a big screen desktop AIO?
 
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Lol - a 32" iMac would need a 6k screen to maintain retina - I'd love to see how much that costs...
The only problem then becomes pricing. A 27" iMac would probably start at $1499 or $1599 vs the 24-incher's current $1299. Apple needs something with a lower starting price. I suppose they could keep the 24" iMac around like how Apple does with M1 MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro
Going by the price of the Studio Display, a 27” iMac will start north of $2.5k, £2.5k.
 
A 31" iMac would be an ideal size display for me. There is potential out there.

  • iMac (24") Display
  • iMac Pro (27") Display
  • iMac Pro Max (31" Display)

  • 24 inch: "starting at $1499*" (because "supply chain", "covid", "inflation")
  • 27 inch: "starting at $3499*" (because display alone with a stand option is about $2K and now we've added a whole Mac inside and have tagged it PRO)
  • 31 inch: "starting at $4999*" (because 4 more inches of display is easily worth $1500 more)
Nicely equipped, add at least $1000 more and buy those extras only from us.

I'm not trying to be a pessimist- I'm an Apple everything guy. That's actually what I think new pricing will be.

*keyboard and mouse now sold separately, so you can get the exact keyboard and mouse you want... and we need the accessory money to help feed "another quarter of record revenue & profit"
 
My feeling is that the M2 was slightly delayed and that future M chips will be released yearly. With that said I think only certain Macs will be updated to every M chip. I can see the laptops getting yearly updates and the desktops moved to 2 year cycles - perhaps with iMac and Studio on odd-numbered M chips and Mac Mini (and Mac Pro?) on even numbered M chips.
I can't help but agree. I think Apple had the M1 lineup ready to go for 2020, but the pandemic delayed their release of it. Which then bumped up against the M2 lineup because of the pandemic in general and the Chinese COVID restrictions specifically. So I think Apple is just taking a wash of M2 chips for the M3 CPU's, which would certainly add more fire to this story from earlier today.
 
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I'm still using a 2017 iMac as my main machine, but I don't think it'll get any more updates after Ventura. 😅 Whatever the next iMac is, that's what I'm upgrading to.
 
The iMac and the Apple TV should really create an offspring. An iMac who's screen can be used for something else instead of it being locked into an iMac only. Something like that would justify the price a bit more. What would be better is a built in KVM capability that lets you use the mouse and keyboard and screen and peripherals, with any other computer simply by pressing a button. Its fine to be locked into the iMac if its usefulness was more than the sum of its parts.
 
  • 24 inch: "starting at $1499*" (because "supply chain", "covid", "inflation")
  • 27 inch: "starting at $3499*" (because display alone with a stand option is about $2K and now we've added a whole Mac inside and have tagged it PRO)
  • 31 inch: "starting at $4999*" (because 4 more inches of display is easily worth $1500 more)
Nicely equipped, add at least $1000 more and buy those extras only from us.

I'm not trying to be a pessimist- I'm an Apple everything guy. That's actually what I think new pricing will be.

*keyboard and mouse now sold separately, so you can get the exact keyboard and mouse you want... and we need the accessory money to help feed "another quarter of record revenue & profit"
That seems rather high, even for Apple. With $3499, you can get an almost maxed out Mac mini M2 Pro with a Studio Display.
 
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That seems rather high, even for Apple. With $3499, you can get an almost maxed out Mac mini M2 Pro with a Studio Display.

See iMac Pro "starting at" pricing from a few years ago. I genuinely will not be surprised at $3499.

But if we want to cast some marketing generosity(?), perhaps a minimal config that hardly anyone will want "starting at $2999". I have no imagination at all for an iMac "bigger" from modern Apple for less than that, given where Studio Display is now established and slugging in the guts of a MBpro + keyboard + mouse. If $2999, I'm guessing even keyboard & mouse may be accessories.

But we'll see. Maybe Apple will surprise us all.
 
After having previous perfectly good iMacs reach obsolescence far earlier than they should have.., I’ve moved to laptop + monitor solutions where the monitor should last more than one cycle.

Where is the studio display with multiple thunderbolt inputs for more than one machine..?
 
See iMac Pro "starting at" pricing from a few years ago. I genuinely will not be surprised at $3499.

But if we want to cast some marketing generosity(?), perhaps a minimal config that hardly anyone will want "starting at $2999". I have no imagination at all for an iMac "bigger" from modern Apple for less than that, given where Studio Display is now established and slugging in the guts of a MBpro + keyboard + mouse. If $2999, I'm guessing even keyboard & mouse may be accessories.

But we'll see. Maybe Apple will surprise us all.
I am pretty convinced that the iMac Pro will stay dead, it just does not make sense with the Mac Studio and Studio Display. Especially now that the Mac mini has the Pro option.
 
I expect next Mac Studio to also jack pricing so that it will "make sense." As is, the Mac Studio pricing conflicts with some Mac Mini pricing (causing genuine debates about one vs. the other in certain configs). I suspect Apple will "fix" that too in the next Studio (pricing).

If they use MxPRO in the new iMac- as I fully expect- I expect PRO branding. Instead of meaning PROfessional as it did back then, it will mean PROfit this time. ;)
 
Apple just doesn't seem to listen to demand. 24" may be good for some, but there's a large population that would like a 27" or 32". If Steve were around they would do it, the iMac was his baby.... well, one of his babies.
 
I'm curious for any real justification for why the iMac should skip the M2 and be on unannounced M3 silicon instead.

My guess is that the iMac sells low enough that there is insufficient cyclical demand to update it with every generation of SoC. If the Mac mini had seen an M1 Pro release in 2021, I think it would have skipped M2, as well, and it sounds like Mac Studio will skip M2 and will instead next be upgraded with M3.

The laptops make up over 80% of Mac sales per Apple executive comments so there is enough cyclical demand (new and upgrade) to justify an annual SoC generation upgrade cycle.


I think bringing back target display mode would make the iMac a more appealing device.

Based on reports, the Timing Controller chip is not capable of accepting an external input. In the Intel/AMD days, it needed to bind both DisplayPort channels together to drive the display as a single panel (as opposed to the two halves of PC OEM 5K monitors). I am guessing Apple is using the same design philosophy with Apple Silicon and DisplayPort over TB controllers.
 
If MacBook sales are plummeting why do you think they are gonna rush to update this? Desktop’s are not really selling like gangbusters these days.
 
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