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Is iOS 8 bad coding or planned obsolescence?
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I would say there is no such thing as instant response, which can vary with every key press. Since I never noticed this I can't complain about it, unlike the safari copy/paste bug if this issue ever gets fixed I could care less. As we know Apple fixes what they want not what is being discussed in these forums.
Well, there certainly was something much closer to that in the days before iOS 7. And while I agree that bigger and/or more important/relevant issues should be addressed first (or shouldn't have been there to begin with), it doesn't mean that some of these types of issues aren't worthwhile.
Till iOS 7, the response feel even on olderiPhones felt far far better compared to the current feel on iOS 8.
I need to tap multiple times on small buttons or texts and don't feel as confident of getting a response as I did in iOS 7 or earlier.
They definitely have changed some underlying code. Maybe they felt the pressure to match Android in that department also.
People started complaining about "lags" (that is not lags but just different animations) when iOS 7 was introduced. Now they have forgot it and suddenly iOS 7 was the perfect operative system.... Every year the same song.
I am 'bookmarking' all the whining threads about iOS 8, and want to bring those up when iOS 9 is out....
That should be fun....
If Apple ever release a version of iOS so bad that people start praising iOS8 and wishing they could go back to it, then iPhones are dead. People praise 7.1.2 and that was an unfinished, rather buggy affair. Let's not set the bar too low here folks.
Sure. IOS 8 is so bad that Apple is dead.... Oooops, sales records.
Yes, Apple is doomed
Same thing happens with every new release of IOS; don't you know. The last release of every version of IOS is always unfinished.
Same thing happens with every new release of IOS; don't you know. The last release of every version of IOS is always unfinished.
Don't you know ? Apple is doomed.
To bring back this conversation about the topic, I suggest you reading the first post again. It's weird why iOS 8 isn't smooth 60fps and lags, if CPU power has gone up 50 times and GPU even more. OP has a good point there.
http://youtu.be/5Ti0KdXrgSE
Hopefully iOS 8 is low point for Apple and things start getting better with iOS 9.
http://youtu.be/5Ti0KdXrgSE
Hopefully iOS 8 is low point for Apple and things start getting better with iOS 9.
As a general statement the premise of the thread just holds no water. I can't duplicate this on my 5s nor do I see any lag on 5s, 6, 6+ and ipad 2. It could be I don't see it or it could be there isn't any to see. Doesn't make a difference.
IMO, this is one of those inconsequential things. Try to load nin.com on that iphone 3 (or whatever model that is) and then let's discuss lag.
Don't think those who had issues with responsiveness in iOS 7 find it a perfect operating system. Some might see the latest version as being better than some versions of iOS 8, but that doesn't mean they see it as perfect nor does it mean it's the same group of people anyway.
Still waiting for someone demonstrating that iOS 8 is affected by frame rate drops.
There were people complaining when iOS 7 were released and now they are describing iOS 8 as worse than iOS 7, which isn't according to my experience.
iOS just changed compared to iOS 6 and earlier versions. The new UI is just different, and it make an extensive use of animations.
You can like it or not, that's quite subjective.
For the most part it's subjective. Various bugs and stability and even prformance issues aren't. Responsiveness isn't as subjective really either, it's just that most might not care about it as much, which doesn't make it subjective because of that, just many people not caring about something that can easily be objective. Many people might not have cared about about something like the ozone layer being depleted, but that doesn't somehow make it any less objective because of that (again, not to equate the level of impact or anything like that, simply to demonstrate the point).
Bugs and responsiveness are totally different issues.
Bugs are objective by definition.
Responsiveness is subjective. I can't find anything unresponsive on my iPad or iPhone. I can't see any stutter, a term I've always considered silly referred to an operative system UI, on my iDevices, not on my Android powered Nexus.
Still there are people keep complaining about it on this forum.
For once, why don't you jump off that fence and take a stand of what you really think of iOS and Apple. All your posts seem to be neither here nor there.
At times, from your posts, it feels you are the champion of the serial whingers and the minority, and at other times you seem to mock them..
I really cannot understand where you stand...
I believe even you admitted that how animations work and react to user input has changed as of iOS 7. Because many people might not really care about it or accept as part of the design and are happe with it, doesn't change the fact that is has in fact changed from what it was like before and by definition is less responsive (again not enough to affect many people in some way, but it's there nonetheless). So people's response to it is crtainly subjective, but whether or not it actually changed and has in fact become less responsive (even if still inconsequential to most) is still something that is objective.
Since Apple has made iOS 8 buggier then iOS 7.1.2, they still had record sales!
Seems that's the way to go for Apple, make every new release buggier then previous one and they can enjoy record breaking sales..
The point is: it's not less responsive. Animations are different and timings are different, because they changed the design of iOS. Completely.
They even slightly changed the animation's speed to please some users (and they did a good job in iOS 7.1).
Now you can like it or not, you can care or not, that's up to you.
But there isn't a responsiveness issue.
It's just animations timing.
You do realize people aren't one way or another. People like to pigeonhole everything, but reality is much more complex. My feelings about iOS and Apple have always been quite clear: I'm fairly happy with both Apple and iOS (and OS X, etc.), but like many people I certainly have some actual issues with things here and there (mostly minor ones), and I also see that there can be things that can be improved or done differently in various areas. Beyond that I also recognize that people can and do have different experiences with their devices (which is often something that seems to be overlooked by many either on purpose or not).
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I think it's absolutely normal that the first initial release of a new operative system can have more bugs than the latest, mature version of their previous.
IOS 8.0 was buggier than iOS 7.1.2
So ?
Yes it's likely due to a design change and animations and all that, and not because of some peformance or some other "conspiratorial" reasons, but the responsiveness has in fact changed whatever the reason. Again, you yourself are admitting that it's different because animations have changed and timings have changed--that means that responsiveness has changed. It might not have chsnged to a great degree, it might not have changed enough to be noticeable or at least to be of care for many, but that doesn't mean it hasn't changed.
It's a given that you can't interact with the screen ehile animations are completing, which wasn't the case prior to iOS 7. Now whatever the reason might be behind it, and whether or not many people really notice it or care about it, it's still a fact that you can't do it now and you could before, and that is something being less responsive.
On a side note: I like your writing and I like to debate with you, because you are civil and moderated.
But sometimes I'm under the impression you are trying to please everyone
It's not a critique. But I'm understanding what he's writing...
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No no, it surely has changed and I can notice that.
I just don't think it's an "issue".
It is a design choice.
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