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iPhone 12 Is iPhone 12 still using PWM OLED?
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actually, I can still see some flicker on the 13 pro. Look at the blue parts of the image...
But it seems to be a higher frequency, which is good news.
with 240 fps you can not film a 480hz flicker. You need an oscilloscope.
Hello, here you can see a comparison:
iPhone 12:
iPhone 13 Pro:
iPhone 12:
iPhone 13 Pro:
Last Year i had within the first Minutes dizziness and eye strain, this year with the 13 Pro it seems to be better. Played 1 hour and i have only a little bit dizziness but until now no eye strain. But i hope, this little dizziness comes from homeopathic Globulis for my stomach. Sorry for my bad english...
That’s good to hear, what brightness level did you have the screen at?
Your english is fine, no worries
I posted the following in the other thread. I'll share here since it seems to have more traction. I was replying to some source Changu was posting about 480hz and pwm being worse this year.
Guys,
I'm somewhat a of PWM crazy person. I've been aware of having this issue for almost 4 years. The source in the OP is not very well versed in PWM. 480 hz flicker should be sufficient to prevent issues with probably over 95% of people. I tried the white point trick on both pro models of the 12 pro last year and it was a no go for me.
I've tried and returned so many phones it's insane. I always reference notebook check and honestly, any phone I've ever used that gets to the high 300's has always been fine. The probelm is most phones are sub 300. Pixel 4 XL, Pixel 5, OnePlus 8T have all had similar flicker rates and those never bothered me. If this is truly at 480 hz, then you guys should celebrate, it means I can upgrade my iPhone 11 and stop using Chinese phones with a dedicated DC dimming mode (Xiaomi)
Guys,
I'm somewhat a of PWM crazy person. I've been aware of having this issue for almost 4 years. The source in the OP is not very well versed in PWM. 480 hz flicker should be sufficient to prevent issues with probably over 95% of people. I tried the white point trick on both pro models of the 12 pro last year and it was a no go for me.
I've tried and returned so many phones it's insane. I always reference notebook check and honestly, any phone I've ever used that gets to the high 300's has always been fine. The probelm is most phones are sub 300. Pixel 4 XL, Pixel 5, OnePlus 8T have all had similar flicker rates and those never bothered me. If this is truly at 480 hz, then you guys should celebrate, it means I can upgrade my iPhone 11 and stop using Chinese phones with a dedicated DC dimming mode (Xiaomi)
I hear ya. Last years 12 Pros were the first to ever give me problems. Returned it and ended up with a regular 11. Just got my 13 Pro Max. Kinda hard to tell if im over analyzing how I feel or not lol.. Looking forward to hearing everyone else's experiences.
My 13 Pro will be here at some point today. I'm not saying you won't feel anything at 480 hz. Heck I noticed the 700hz+ flicker on my brand new Sony TV gave me some very minor eye strain after hours of watching. But overall 480hz should honestly be high enough where it doesn't induce headaches and instant eye strain.
It makes the phone usable for people like us I'm guessing. Will also report back later once my phone gets here and I stare at it for hours haha.
Fingers crossed for everyone that hasn't been able to use the last generations of OLED screens. My 13 Pro will be here later today, I'm anxiously awaiting it. I'm cautiously optimistic that I'll be able to enjoy this phone. I feel like I'll be analyzing it all weekend. I hope that I can just enjoy it. It'll be nice to be back on a flagship phone.