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When was any iPhone ever “exclusive”. For 10 years or so I’ve seen them in the hands of people from all walks of life.
Whe original iPhone was.

In the UK at least, you had to sign with O2 (which wasn't a very good network) for 2yrs, pay for the iPhone which I think was around £800 and, from memory, the cheapest monthly payment was £60 and it was for a pathetic amount of calls/data.

I remember deciding, whatever the cost, I'd buy an iPhone - and didn't It was silly money for something that wasn't really much more useful than a Nokia for £130.

I didn't see an iPhone for several weeks after launch.
 
Whe original iPhone was.

In the UK at least, you had to sign with O2 (which wasn't a very good network) for 2yrs, pay for the iPhone which I think was around £800 and, from memory, the cheapest monthly payment was £60 and it was for a pathetic amount of calls/data.

I remember deciding, whatever the cost, I'd buy an iPhone - and didn't It was silly money for something that wasn't really much more useful than a Nokia for £130.

I didn't see an iPhone for several weeks after launch.

The dirty little secret is that in the US, due to subsidized phones on contracts and now due to schemes like AT&T Next and iPhone Upgrade, the iPhone has never been particularly expensive or exclusive. That's part of the reason why it sells so well.
 
Not sure you know anything about Porsche. Boxster/Cayman runs $75k-$85k and are fantastic machines; not junky 911 knockoffs.

I didn't say knock-offs. They are purposely designed to not be as anywhere near as good as they could have been to avoid them treading on the toes of Porsche's bread & butter, the 911. I've driven them all and the cheaper versions feel gimped. Because they have been, purposefully.
 
Whe original iPhone was.

In the UK at least, you had to sign with O2 (which wasn't a very good network) for 2yrs, pay for the iPhone which I think was around £800 and, from memory, the cheapest monthly payment was £60 and it was for a pathetic amount of calls/data.

I didn't see an iPhone for several weeks after launch.

You are misremembering slightly. ;)

I paid £269 on the 9th November 2007 (The evening it was released in the UK) at the O2 store in Kingston Upon Thames.

My O2 contract was for ±£35/month.

In fact, here's a BBC archive article that explains it all…
"The Apple phones costs £269 and the minimum monthly contract with O2 is £35."
 
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At this point, I’m looking to pre-order an 8 unless I see something in the keynote I don’t like.
 
You are misremembering slightly. ;)

I paid £269 on the 9th November 2007 (The evening it was released in the UK) at the O2 store in Kingston Upon Thames.

My O2 contract was for ±£35/month.

In fact, here's a BBC archive article that explains it all…
"The Apple phones costs £269 and the minimum monthly contract with O2 is £35."
I stand corrected. I would've sworn it was at least £60 per month. £35 sounds quite cheap...

"First out of the store with the £269 internet enabled device was 20-year-old north London student Tom Jasinski"

"Graham Gilbert was the first to buy the iPhone at the London store"

Excellent journalism by the BBC as per.
 
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I stand corrected. I would've sworn it was at least £60 per month. £35 sounds quite cheap...

"First out of the store with the £269 internet enabled device was 20-year-old north London student Tom Jasinski"

"Graham Gilbert was the first to buy the iPhone at the London store"

Excellent journalism by the BBC as per.
Haha. Indeed.

It was expensive for 2007, certainly a lot of money for a phone, and certainly felt like it. Still, what a game changer!

Nowadays that price seems almost reasonable. :)
 
Haha. Indeed.

It was expensive for 2007, certainly a lot of money for a phone, and certainly felt like it. Still, what a game changer!

Nowadays that price seems almost reasonable. :)

I remember that it quickly came down in price, which is when I bought it. Maybe three months later?
 
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I didn't say knock-offs. They are purposely designed to not be as anywhere near as good as they could have been to avoid them treading on the toes of Porsche's bread & butter, the 911. I've driven them all and the cheaper versions feel gimped. Because they have been, purposefully.
I've had 3 of them so I'll just agree to disagree with you.
 
You are misremembering slightly. ;)

I paid £269 on the 9th November 2007 (The evening it was released in the UK) at the O2 store in Kingston Upon Thames.

My O2 contract was for ±£35/month.

In fact, here's a BBC archive article that explains it all…
"The Apple phones costs £269 and the minimum monthly contract with O2 is £35."
It dropped even lower for the launch of the 3G, starting at £99 upfront for the 8GB iPhone on a £30 per month / 18 month contract.
 
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I've had 3 of them so I'll just agree to disagree with you.

It'd drive me mad knowing the car had been purposely engineered to stop it being as good as it could have been. Porsche gimped everything from performance to handling to ensure it didn't step on the toes of their big brother. There's so much choice for the money you spent on a Boxster/Cayman. Still, if you're happy then that's all that matters.
 
Well, that misses the point of what I'm saying.

I said the iPhone should be more expensive.

You said "Only Apple fans actually want products to be more expensive just so that they can feel elite for buying them!"

I pointed out I'm not an Apple fan.

Not sure what other point you were making.
 
I said the iPhone should be more expensive.

You said "Only Apple fans actually want products to be more expensive just so that they can feel elite for buying them!"

I pointed out I'm not an Apple fan.

Not sure what other point you were making.

Then I was wrong that only Apple fans think that way, but that still wasn't the point. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Like I said, I don't want to preach.
 
I respect your opinion but "may" last two years is ridiculous. The A11 is rumored to be a 6 core CPU + who knows what the GPU looks like. The 2500k desktop CPU is still relevant today and we are entering into a 6 core CPU on a mobile device. That is crazy.

There is a lot more to the life of a smartphone than the CPU. Yes, the CPU is great. However, sometimes carriers start using new cellular bands and technologies that older model phones don't support.

I believe this happened a year or two ago with T-mobile (I'm not a T-mobile customer but I remember reading something about this). They started rolling out a new band nationwide that barely any phones supported until the new iPhone and Samsung models were released. I think Verizon even has bands they are deploying that the current iPhone 7 doesn't support (band 66 possibly?). The new iPhone will include support for these bands. Not sure about the other carriers, they could be in similar situations as well. I'm a Verizon customer.

The point is, technology is changing quickly. In a couple of years 5G may be fairly mainstream. If that's the case, then yes, most people will want to upgrade.
 
Tbh I paid £450 on GumTree for a brand new Samsung S8 - I have something within me that refuses to overpay for stuff, so I wouldn't buy an iPhone X for £1100 or whatever. But if you're properly rich, then do what you want!

Last November I had to hustle a great MacBook Pro deal and saved a lot on that, bought some more Apple shares with the savings - since then, they are up 48% for me.

My long-term financial future is more important and the S8 at that price was (to me) incredible value for money..
 
I'll get the iPhone X or whatever it's called. If you're going to buy a new phone, you might as well spend good money on the real thing instead of a gimped cheaper version. It's like those people who buy a Porsche Boxster or Cayman. They've purposely spent money of something purposely designed to not be very good so it doesn't tread on the toes of the most expensive model.


It's not even that. You may not even be able to get an X for a long time especially with the rumors of it being a delay. I have a iPhone 6 that is smashed and literally limping along. Not sure if I want to wait that long. It depends really on the differences of the device.

I guarantee you the X will have too great of a demand no matter the price.
 
It's not even that. You may not even be able to get an X for a long time especially with the rumors of it being a delay. I have a iPhone 6 that is smashed and literally limping along. Not sure if I want to wait that long. It depends really on the differences of the device.

I guarantee you the X will have too great of a demand no matter the price.

I have no doubt it will be in demand, I'll pre-order the moment it's available but if it doesn't arrive on day 1, then no big deal. I am prepared to wait. It takes a few months to iron out a few major kinks & bugs in a new version of iOS anyway so if it is delayed, then I can live with that. My user experience won't be any worse for it.
 
Yes I agree with this assessment. For me, it means buying one less treat in the coffee house each day. And I get hours upon hours of enjoyment out of my iPhone each day. I think most of us can easily justify the relative daily expense of an iPhone X.

Only problem is applying that logic to more purchases - that money starts to add up pretty quickly. :p

Let's see what it is and how much it costs. It's not an outrageous amount of money (the difference) for something you use every day I think, but of course everyone budgets their own way and makes their own decisions. It doesn't matter which phone you buy, they'll both be fantastic devices like all the others before them, so it ultimately comes down to personal choice.
 
I have no doubt it will be in demand, I'll pre-order the moment it's available but if it doesn't arrive on day 1, then no big deal. I am prepared to wait. It takes a few months to iron out a few major kinks & bugs in a new version of iOS anyway so if it is delayed, then I can live with that. My user experience won't be any worse for it.


That makes sense, your current phone isn't even a year old at this point so waiting should be a breeze for you.
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Only problem is applying that logic to more purchases - that money starts to add up pretty quickly. :p

Let's see what it is and how much it costs. It's not an outrageous amount of money (the difference) for something you use every day I think, but of course everyone budgets their own way and makes their own decisions. It doesn't matter which phone you buy, they'll both be fantastic devices like all the others before them, so it ultimately comes down to personal choice.


If I was on a train everyday and used my phone for a long time the money spent on a top tier phone was be a no-brainer for me. The reality is my phone is mostly used for texting and weatherbug and some minor photo capture(anything important photography is done with a proper full frame digital camera). I've also made it a point not to use my phone too much in public(not when walking and especially eating and hanging at a bar). I also stopped doing it for the most part when standing in line for coffee for instance.
 
Tbh I paid £450 on GumTree for a brand new Samsung S8 - I have something within me that refuses to overpay for stuff, so I wouldn't buy an iPhone X for £1100 or whatever. But if you're properly rich, then do what you want!

Last November I had to hustle a great MacBook Pro deal and saved a lot on that, bought some more Apple shares with the savings - since then, they are up 48% for me.

My long-term financial future is more important and the S8 at that price was (to me) incredible value for money..

^^^This guy gets it ^^^.
You don’t become rich or stay rich by overpaying for things, which is why someone suggesting that the iPhone should be priced higher is obsurd. It’s not sound thinking, and it’s not the type of thing that any successful person would be posting.
 
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The first time they release something new they never get it right. I would wait for the Xs.

  • Plus size phone released: not enough gpu horsepower to run it
  • Touch ID released: Too slow
  • Front facing camera was crap first time
  • Took a long time for rear flash to be decent
Those are just what come to mind.

I guarantee the custom emoji is not going to work very well at first and the face unlock is going to be slow or glitchy. The fact that people are already reading about screen burn mitigation features tells you the oled is not ready for prime time. Unless you reall really want to be seen holding a $1,000 brick to your ear in public I would go with the safe option of the 8.
 
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