Is it just me or Maverick(s) Sucks?

[bkar89]

Top 5 Questions:

1) Is making my Mac run harder for certain programs...LightRoom,Photoshop,Final Cut Pro & even Preview.
Is yours?

2) I see & feel no difference in performance...Why did I update?

3) Have you upgrade to OS X Mavericks?

4) Why did you upgrade?

5) Thanks? <<<Not really a question

1)

No, but I don't really use any of those programs, on occation Final cut, but not enough to say anything about performance loss (if there are any, its not very significant) I use Aperture alot, no diffrence. Runs like a dream, like always.

2)

Nor do I. Running the base config 2012 15" rMBP it runs like butter. I've never had any issues on either ML or Mavericks. I do see major gains in battery life though!

3)

Yes, and have been since DP1

4)

Tabs in finder, Multiple displays, Power saving, It was free...

5)

You're welcome

 

[MacInTheCrack]

I don't think it sucks.

 

[nzalog]

Can I interest you in another operating system?

Mavericks works great here, by the way. Better battery life&performance, and I really like the multi-monitor improvements, tabbed finder with support for tags, the new Maps app, the vastly improved Safari, continuous scrolling in the Calendar app, auto-install app updates, Applescript Libraries etc. Unfortunately, while scrolling has become much smoother now, the architectural change that Apple has made comes with a caveat that I can't say I'm particularly happy about.

So bad... wow

 

[bobbba]

It's just you...

 

[chukronos]

I'm in the middle of removing all my data to do a clean install - exactly the same story as the OP.

I use my mac heavily for Adobe CC apps (photography / editing / design), since the upgrade Finder went crazy although that appeared to be the google drive issue. Apps still fail to open / the iMac keep freezing.

Fun fun..

After the clean install, do you notice a difference. I don't want to upgrade until the kinks are worked out.

 

[XoFu]

Can I interest you in another operating system?

....

That was cruel!!!

 

[dreammaker23]

WHoa I came home to reading a book of storys!
Thanks everyone for sharing your experience & for answering my questions.

For some of you asking why did I upgrade?

Well, I was looking for better battery life out of my (15' Mid 2012 rMBP)

Other then that, it was fine.
I also thought it would speed my machine up a tad since I now know what my
Machine is capable in pushing.

But thats what happens when you get a little greedy..lol

Dam!

Aight time to copy my content and do a Clean Install on this thang.

Thanks again!
Peace, Chris Issac <<<Not the singer, but the photographer

 

[Lolito]

1) Is making my Mac run harder for certain programs...LightRoom,Photoshop,Final Cut Pro & even Preview.
Is yours?

2) I see & feel no difference in performance...Why did I update?

3) Have you upgrade to OS X Mavericks?

4) Why did you upgrade?

5) Thanks? <<<Not really a question

1)for those programs, it works just like before or slightly better, but i feel no diference. For lighter apps, it works faster. It needs less space for hibernation and battery improves 10%

2)cause it's bettter than previous versions, that is why i upgraded.

3) yes

4) answered in 2

5) ur welcome.

 

[mrmarts]

Can I interest you in another operating system?

Mavericks works great here, by the way. Better battery life&performance, and I really like the multi-monitor improvements, tabbed finder with support for tags, the new Maps app, the vastly improved Safari, continuous scrolling in the Calendar app, auto-install app updates, Applescript Libraries etc. Unfortunately, while scrolling has become much smoother now, the architectural change that Apple has made comes with a caveat that I can't say I'm particularly happy about.

Its funny how you posted that videoclip that was the windows os i came from. Ever since then i never looked back. In fact i refuse to go to anything Microsoft (Xbox, windows on bootcamp etc) Microsoft Office is the only thing i touch that is Microsoft as I need it for Uni and the fact that pages sucks.

 

[jameslmoser]

Its just you.

 

[JonnyAlpha]

Hi;

Just to add my tuppenth worth, I am a Macbook Pro late 2008 owner who, about 6 months ago upgraded to 8GB Ram and 10.6.8 Snow Leopard.
Since then I have experienced a lot of Beach Balling!!!

Last night I upgraded to Mavericks (Watched the Sep Keynote and got excited so I did it) and I must admit it seems a lot smoother.

Couple of gripes so far (only been using it an hour or so).

1. Icons in Finder and the Doc seem flatter and not so 'snazzy', I like snazzy its what separated OSX from Windoze. Everyone seems to be adopting this flatter duller look, is it a result of some Scientific research into what Human's like or can see better?? Maybe I am just odd??

2. My Doc is positioned on the R/H side and I now have what looks like a horrible grey bar behind my Doc whereas before I'm sure it used to be transparent? I like transparent. I moved the Doc and realised the grey bar is the flat panel that the Doc Icons sit on, it looks a lot better when positioned on the bottom but panel just don't look right on the sides.

3. In finder deleting files using CMD / Backspace seems very slow to react, before the file just disappeared but now the highlight moves to the file below leaving the deleted file above an about a second later the deleted file disappears. This is very annoying.

 

[50548]

Apart from the notorious Mail accounts bug (now fixed), Mavericks is by far the most stable x.0 release ever. Granted, one may say that it just represents a "tidier" ML - but still, I have encountered very few if any bugs in my daily usage.

My iMac has always been very fast, so I can't really tell the difference between Lion, ML and Mavs; but at least I can assure you that it's NOT any slower.

 

[josh.b]

Sounds like it is just you. You know just before Mavericks release I was dreading the thought of backing up everything to do a clean install so I went around seeing what others were doing. The majority of posts I read were saying that just an upgrade was so safe to do these days. I forgot what it was but I ended up doing a clean install instead and have had no problems since. Not even gmail in mail causing me issues.

So yeah just do a clean install, I am sure everything will work out well because honestly Mavericks is insanely fast. My mum's early 2008 iMac runs a lot faster now. I am talking about double speed.

 

[Michael Goff]

1) Is making my Mac run harder for certain programs...LightRoom,Photoshop,Final Cut Pro & even Preview.
Is yours?

No

2) I see & feel no difference in performance...Why did I update?

Because it's new ... seriously, that's it. It had a faster Safari, better technology, and I heard it would give my MBA better battery life.

3) Have you upgrade to OS X Mavericks?

Yes. Day two, actually.

4) Why did you upgrade?

Errr... faster, newer, better?

5) Thanks? <<<Not really a question

No problem.

 

[flopticalcube]

Apart from the notorious Mail accounts bug (now fixed), Mavericks is by far the most stable x.0 release ever. Granted, one may say that it just represents a "tidier" ML - but still, I have encountered very few if any bugs in my daily usage.

My iMac has always been very fast, so I can't really tell the difference between Lion, ML and Mavs; but at least I can assure you that it's NOT any slower.

I agree. Its been the best .0 release I have done and I upgraded from Lion which was an upgrade of SL. On my 09 mini, its a noticeable improvement, sometimes impressively so.

 

[stevemiller]

i upgraded because i actually like what it brings to the table (on paper at least.) proper mutli-monitor support, a non-mirrored airplay desktop, tabbed finder, and attempts at smarter ram and cpu usage.

in reality? yup there's bugs. i've had weird issues connecting to my office's smb server that didn't exist before. i've had an up-tick in freezes requiring a hard reset (in fairness its always been in creative-cloud apps that were recently updated, so its hard to say who's entirely at fault -- though apple should at least have better sandboxing to prevent a buggy app from bringing down the whole system).

overall i'm pleased with the direction of this release, and i am hopeful that they fix the bugs, though i fully sympathize with frustrations that people encounter. being critical and pointing out flaws is a good step towards getting them addressed. ideally people send them as actual feedback to apple. i bet the mountain of "WTFs" apple got regarding unusable monitors of tiled linen helped get us the implementation we have now.

edit: also, for the people who think a good upgrade would be defined by adding 'flat design,' i present to you a thorough face palm. and based on your priorities, apple already has an iOS for you.

 

[SanJacinto]

I think Mavericks is a great release, but for me it doesn't work yet. So my post is not the typical SL vs. all the other OS Xs. I like the new features, but ...

I have to work with MS Office and Stata on a daily basis and what can I say, 10.9 is really sluggish.
Often the trackpad doesn't respond. It takes time to open files or applications, often 5-10 seconds. If I click on a window in Expose it often opens another window.
My daily time window is very constrained at the moment so I don't have time to perform a complete fresh install.
I went back to Snow Leopard. At the moment this is the best and fastest solution for me. I have a SL-partition especially for this cases.

I haven't used SL for nearly 6 month, therefore I was quite surprised how fast it is, I nearly have forgotten it.

Snow Leopard is the Natalie Portman of OS X - simple and beautiful.

 

[Streefkerk]

I think Mavericks is awesome! Battery life definitely improved, and I like maps!
I hope that the e-mail app gets an update as well; If I read an email(hotmail) or delete one, it will still be on the server..

 

[josh.b]

I think Mavericks is awesome! Battery life definitely improved, and I like maps!
I hope that the e-mail app gets an update as well; If I read an email(hotmail) or delete one, it will still be on the server..

i think without a doubt their email is gonna get a huge overhaul next big release due to all the airmail switchers lol.

 

[MacInTheCrack]

1)

No, but I don't really use any of those programs, on occation Final cut, but not enough to say anything about performance loss (if there are any, its not very significant) I use Aperture alot, no diffrence. Runs like a dream, like always.

2)

Nor do I. Running the base config 2012 15" rMBP it runs like butter. I've never had any issues on either ML or Mavericks. I do see major gains in battery life though!

3)

Yes, and have been since DP1

4)

Tabs in finder, Multiple displays, Power saving, It was free...

5)

You're welcome

Me too. For that alone it's win/win. The tabs in Finder are cool too.

 

[asianwitcher]

from snowy, lion, mountain to maverick, i feel that maverick has been the buggiest version so far (vista), due to the changes behind the ui, i think these bugs will be fixed but i dislike how mac is taking away what we have enjoyed as we update,

i just had gestures not work on my touch pad till i logged out, a first with all these versions.

i see a decrease in ui performance, minor bugs and lags than expected

power button to sleep other than option menu, (holding down doesnt make it better)

luckly i kept my mountain lion partition which has is smooth

Macbook air 11 2013

 

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I upgraded for one major reason and that was improved multi-monitor support. I can now have a menu bar on both monitors and full screen apps work without interfering with the other monitor. They really should have a dock on each monitor, though. Only the bottom mounted dock will "migrate" to other monitors. I use a side-mounted dock to conserve vertical space (i.e. monitors are very wide these days, but not very tall so I don't want a dock sucking up vertical space).


Bugs/Observations:

XtraFinder didn't work here at first, but the newest version has this fixed now.

My Intellimouse won't wake right on my Mac Mini for some odd reason (buttons click and the light is on, but the pointer is stuck), but the same mouse wakes just fine with Mavericks on my 2008 Macbook Pro, even on my USB3 card for it.

Photoshop CS3 works just fine here still.

I didn't appreciate Apple updating iTunes from an older version with coverflow support (since I like that view for movies better), but I'm dealing with it.

Their new "Maps" App can't find my location unless I switch to WiFi from Gigabit Ethernet for some bizarre reason (other map apps on the Net don't have that issue and I don't want to use WiFi when I have Gigabit Ethernet available).

Certain older apps that use fullscreen mode sometimes show a gap where the second menu bar now sits (these Apps don't support the newer Mountain Lion/Mavericks full screen mode). It doesn't do this on the primary monitor, though.

XBench reads slightly slower speeds on some things and overall, compared to Mountain Lion, but then so did Snow Leopard compared to Leopard on my Macbook Pro. None are a "lot" slower in anything, though an Xbench is so old I don't trust the readings much anyway. I can't really feel a difference. It was slow at first, but Mavericks was caching/optimizing for 30 minutes to an hour or so and then all seemed fine again.

SMB2 gets re-enabled and Samba3 (from SMBUp) gets turned off on a reboot and I have to turn SMB2 off and SMBUp back on each time. I haven't found a workaround for this yet (putting SMBUp in the startup queue didn't help as someone suggested). Preferences just ignores my changes on a reboot for some reason. I need Samba3 for XBMC on AppleTV units as (Eden at least) doesn't work with SMB2, just Samba.

Otherwise, I don't notice much difference with Mavericks (the dock is a little lighter shaded on a side-mounted dock).

 

[macgeek88]

Much like iOS 7, I believe Mavericks is really in it's infancy and by even .1 I think we will start to see major improvements.

I DO like Mavericks and iOS 7's new features, and I really like the overall snappiness although I realize some machines have actually slowed with 10.9, and that again is something that will be fixed with future incremental updates.

Overall, I'm fine with the iOSification of OS X, as long as there still is "desktop" computers (not tablets) to use. I'm not a traditionalist when it comes to technology, it's one of the few areas that I'm not, to be honest.

I've always been an early adopter/guinea pig as I do not do critical work on my personal computers and I prefer being one of the first to try new stuff. So again, it doesn't affect me as much. I was ready for a change from 10.8 and iOS 6, even if it meant some bugs and some new drastic changes. I realize I'm one of the very few who think that way, but I get bored fast and I like change and bold transitions.

 

[rmwebs]

It's got a few issues, annoying ones that Apple would have noticed in Alpha one!

The dock
If like me you have the dock on the bottom of the screen, and its set to hidden, and you use 2 or more displays, when you go to view the dock on another display, it only works randomly. I find sometimes I have to click on the desktop, then 'bounce' the cursor off of the bottom of the screen to get it to show, and even then it doesn't always show

Heat
My 2012 rMBP is running a lot hotter with a fresh installation of Mavericks - I thought it was down to Spotlight indexing external drivers (which it seemed to ALWAYS do) so I disabled it, but the computer still gets way hotter than Mountain Lion made it.

Kernel Panics
Never had one with Mountain Lion. I've had 3 so far with Mavericks. I'm going to put that down to either my USB 3.0 hub or my USB 3.0 => Ethernet adaptor - neither have custom firmware installed however so cant be 100% sure its them that caused it.

Still piss poor multi-monitor support
Whilst multi-monitor support is better, it still feels like it's been intentionally limited to give them something to release in the next update. Dragging windows from one display to another is a pain, as windows don't scale to fit the screen (so dragging a 1800px wide browser window onto a 1440px laptop screen results in it being clipped, and it doesn't show the overlapping bit on the other display). This combined with the dock issue means OS X is still pretty crap at multi-screen support when you're powering through work trying to get stuff done.

I hope they can fix these issues. OS X updates have been pretty lacklustre since Snow Leopard, with really trivial things being touted as major features. I'd rather they refine the OS more as it's starting to get to the point where it feels a bit bloated again. We need another Snow Leopard type of release really.

All this being said, I have noticed battery improvements, but AppNap should not be kicking in when you're plugged in. I've had to disable it on a bunch of apps as I'd get random split-second beachballs.

 

[hunt2013]

To answer number 2.

It's the same reason you update from 10.8.4 to 10.8.5. It fixes things and provides security updates. These just have some added features.