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Is it time to move on from Apple?
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If you can stand Android, Windows Phone 7/8, or Blackberry phones, those are your alternatives.
I don't recommend the Blackberry Torch though. I love Blackberry, but I'm giving it up for an iPhone 5 because it's too laggy when typing and other things, like it has to catch up with what you are trying to do. The thing just doesn't have enough memory to run smoothly.
I liked the Blackberry Torch 9810. LOVE the led light! The lack of apps killed it for me so I returned it. That was when it was first released. Maybe the new Blackberry phones will be nice, they look great so far, but it won't be on the market for a while so I'll probably already upgrade before then.
At first I was hesitant to upgrade from my iPhone 4 which I totally love. Yes, I read all the bad news too and at first I really did not like the look of the tall screen. I gave the Samsung Galaxy III some serious thought, but after playing with it a bit I was put off by the screen and cheap feel.
However, after the upgrade to iPhone 5 I could not be more happy. Apple never disappoints. The thin, light form factor is just right. Its blazing fast and with LTE web browsing is just like on a full size computer. I love the camera, especially the super easy to take panorama mode.
Just do it - you won't be sorry!
However, after the upgrade to iPhone 5 I could not be more happy. Apple never disappoints. The thin, light form factor is just right. Its blazing fast and with LTE web browsing is just like on a full size computer. I love the camera, especially the super easy to take panorama mode.
Just do it - you won't be sorry!
Man people are making too much of a deal with the camera thing. Chill folks. I used a galaxy s3 and I had to juggle turning GPS, wifi, Bluetooth, etc. with the iPhones, I don't have to worry about that.
I did All that on a Windows computer also, Windows 7 to be exact. Usually a clean restore will fix many of the issue your talking about, sometimes when you update it corrupts some files, or causes some files to go in loop and that is why certain things happen...i dont get why your being so stubborn and not restoring, its not really credible when you say things like this without doing a restore.. If you did a clean restore and still had these issues then you have a point but i dont see you right now
As for doing those things on the computer, its easy...plug your phone in, go to my computer and just copy and paste the file with photos and videos into a new file on your desktop and let it transfer, make a Yahoo account and sync your contacts there and just do a clean restore...its not a issue everyone is having...although i wouldnt doubt if SOME people DO have this problem
If you dont make a attempt to fix your issues then who will?
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Hahah I agree, even though Android has the pulldown menu to turn things off quickly, most of the time it will malfunction or it wont be working properly then you have to go through menus..with a iPhone its just boom Settings and thats it ..idk if i make sense but i feel its easier and quicker to do things on a iPhone
People have to realize that the vast majority of people who decide to post do so to bitch about the product.
Very small minority of the overall user base.
Very small minority of the overall user base.
There is so much utter nonsense, ignorance and self entitle BS I have to make a post again. What's even more rich is the fact you can't even make a post to correctly quote someone which really explains your 'not too computer savvy'!
Too much to ask for because Apple engineers pay is high and your expectation to make it work for you when you don't even know what you are doing, impatient or have a clear understanding on how it works?
THis is like you complaining on a forum that you are not a very good driver and complaining about the roads. Then giving an example of a round about and complaining you have to turn right and YEILD to previous cars first when you really want to make a left on a street. Further complaining it would be easier to just make a left instead than following the rules of the road. Same thing in my eyes.. learn how to use the functionality and the process. Just a uneducated fool who complains. You must be those whiners at work that complain you can't over computer problems or whine where there is a new version out and don't have the patient or capacity to learn something new but complain you liked it before ( or blame it was the computer for your own fault) you myopic fool. What do you want? Andriod? I suggest you stop buying smart phones and get a old basic Nokia. Buy a separate MP3 player like a Zoom or something.
I have a "perfect' iPhone 5. I've had none of the issues on this forum. You have to remember, people tend to only post when they have problems the ones that don't rarely post.
You can delete as much of the quoted text as you want but it has to begin with "QUOTE" in brackets and and with "/QUOTE" in brackets. If you look your post began with quote and ended with color. Go back and change it to [ / QUOTE ] without the spaces.
Reading this forum can make a person nuts. No problems with iOS 6 on my 4s, and no problems, hardware or software, with my 5. People obsess over this stuff, even when it's very minor and/or most people don't have the problem.
It seems like the OP put more time in complaining about his phone then actually working on fixing the issue. The OP won't even try the solutions provided to him even when at least 10 people in this thread told him that it would fix his problem. There are doers and then there are whiners. What else is there to even say at this point?
Go Android or Windows Phone. If you think for one second that you won't have to restore to fix issues on those phones at some point, you are in for a surprise.
Go Android or Windows Phone. If you think for one second that you won't have to restore to fix issues on those phones at some point, you are in for a surprise.
Purple Haze - no, sorry, don't agree with that at all. What you're seeing is a natural problem with most camera optics and there's examples of it in many other cameras, including some high end kit. Certainly both the S3 and Razr Maxx have both been shown to have the same 'problem'. If you're daft enough (or have no choice but) to point a camera directly at a strong light source in a dark environment bad things will happen to your photos. The exact colour may vary but haze / flare is to be expected in those conditions.
Casing - again, sorry, but this is massively overblown too. There's some manufacturing issues, true, and that sucks if you get a bad one. Will it scratch over time? Almost certainly but show me a mobile device that doesn't if you use it without a case. I've had mine on my all day, every day for the last three weeks since it came out with no case and there isn't a mark on it. Will it stay like that? No, of course not, and to expect it to is completely unrealistic. If you want your mobile phone (regardless of what it is) to stay in pristine condition put it in a case.
In short this is the usual nonsense that goes with any Apple product these days where forums like this end up overblowing any issue - real or not - to the point people get sucked in and believe it's the end of the world.
I have the 4 too, and my battery life certainly hasn't been cut in half, nor did iOS 6 mess up my bookmark sync.
Having said that, iCloud isn't perfect, I too get weird anomalies sometimes. Once it got stuck in a loop saving drafts of an email I was writing, so that I had nearly 60 drafts of the same email (thank god only one of them was sent to the recipient and not all 60). A couple of times it has created duplicates of notes, and once it created a duplicate bookmark folder so that I had two identical bookmark menus called "Community", the duplicate existed only on my iPhone and deleting it erased both the unwanted clone and the original. It's heaven compared to MobileMe, though, but neither service lives up to Apple's "it just works" motto.
You really should be banned from this forum. You couldn't be more of a jerk. Sorry, I didn't graduate with a computer science degree, and sorry for expecting someone who's getting a boat load of money to fix issues like I'm having. I tried every solution except the worst one. That'd be like deleting all game history from an xbox or ps3 because of bugs, it just wouldn't be acceptable. I must've forgot on this forum that Apple is God to some people and that people shouldn't expect them to do their job well. Sorry, I don't settle for mediocrity in the workplace. Join the shark tank with the rest of them.
Define many?? A few hundred threads in forums or clickbait by tech sites? 14 people I work with all have iPhone 5 and are extremely happy with the build (i even had a look at some of them, and they are perfect - and I don't use that word lightly) and the camera, in fact most never heard of the manufacturing issue or camera purple haze. I know that's a small number, but exaggerated reports would say up to 40% (http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/136658-scuffgate-will-apple-have-to-recall-the-iphone-5) of iPhone 5 have issues, so I would have at least noticed 1 or 2 or more of them with scuffs...no???? I don't think you, I or anyone else on the forums can make an assumption like this...analysts too, it's their job to predict not state facts. It's all hearsay anyway.
If you feel you refuse to return a blemished device to an Apple store then perhaps you have already made your decision. You could be unlucky and get a pristine model with a faulty speaker or similar hardware issue, then you would HAVE TO return it for a refund/replacement. Just saying the choice on whether you get one should not be based on the above. If you really want it, get it, if there are issues you know Apple has great customer service, so what's the real risk? You might get hit by a bus - live life now. I don't know why the people with issues with their devices don't just return to the place of purchase, but instead they post it all over the place on the net to muster up some kind of mass complaint whining comfort.
Oh, and as for iOS 6 - it works just as well as iOS 5,4,3,2,1. If you are having issues - back it up, restore it, set up as new - see if there really is a difference between it now and previously. I think you will find the difference in battery, speed, function is negligible. If so, restore from backup again. If not, is it really such a big deal to restart a game from scratch? In the big picture? NO! Buy a new game!
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So exhausting every other solution except for the worst one isn't attempting to fix an issue? Another jerk on here, what a surprise! I restored from backup, restoring from new is not an option for me.
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No Apple store anywhere near me. Just AT&T. They're customer service and knowledge is severely lacking.
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thank you
It's unfortunate mobile companies are a disaster worldwide isn't it! Same in the UK! All they want is for you to sign on the dotted line and afterwards they don't give a ****. Robots!
First, your analogy is poor because you can actually save your data, not lose it all. Not saying it's not inconvenient, but you know what, if your car's engine fails, having to replace the engine is the worst solution too, but bitching about it won't solve the problem. It's the solution that's necessary, so we suck it up and do it.
Secondly, most people aren't having your problems. You were unfortunate enough to get a problematic phone. S*** happens. Get over it and stop bitching at Apple and everyone else about it. I'm sorry that it happened to you. I would be upset if it happened to me too, but I would deal with it, not looking to blame anyone, especially when it's clearly NOT a widespread problem.
Thirdly, you're on a forum called MacRumors ranting unnecessarily about an unfortunate problem you're having, and you're going to insult the members for being Apple lovers? Go to a Justin Bieber concert and tell all the screaming girls that Bieber sucks, then phone me from the hospital and tell me how that worked out for you. You expect Apple to coddle you because you're having a problem with a phone that might not even be their fault, you want to make unreasonable demands in a forum full of Apple supporters, and then you put down the forum full of Apple supporters for being Apple supporters. I understand you are mad, but you are also being greatly unreasonable, not that I expect you to recognize that.
People here have honestly been trying to help you, and you've responded with nothing but hostility toward the ones who didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.
Never in my life would I get mad at jerks on an internet forum. It's just rather annoying. Yes, being greatly unreasonable expecting software to work like it should on something that costs a crap ton of money.
I only show hostility to those who are condescending and rude first, treat others as you wish to be treated.
Having finished reading the Jobs bio yesterday, I know that Steve's view on things was very polarized -- everything was either best ever or worst ever, and nothing inbetween. Perhaps it's his influence that has resulted in the fact that anytime there are discussions like these about Apple products, it's either ridiculous to even suggest that the problem exists, or the problem is so severe that it's the equivalent of a natural disaster.
As with everything in life, the truth is usually somewhere inbetween. Was Antennagate a design blunder of epic proportions? No. Did other phones turn out to have similar 'death grip' problems? Yes. But it was more severe with iPhone 4 than with other phones, and Apple knew it -- they ended up not clear-coating the surface due to Ive's insistence (it was .00004% less pretty to look at).
Are devices from other manufacturers immune to scratches? Hell no, but Jony Ive has a tendency to get carried away with creating museum pieces and losing sight of the fact that the devices are mobile. Few devices have been more scratch-prone than the older iPods with chrome back and plastic front, there isn't one of those iPods in existence today that doesn't look like all NHL teams used the chrome back for skating practice. Ive experiments a lot and it's hit and miss (*cough* Cube *ahem*). My '09 MBP and my iPhone 4 have held up amazingly well without any protection, they look brand new. But I'll never forget the first time I wiped fingerprints off my shiny new 1st gen iPod Nano and it got scratched up by the cotton fibers of a soft, clean cloth.
Purple haze -- yes, all cameras big and small have their flare issues, and yes, it's a dumb idea to point a camera straight at a strong light source. But this particular camera's quirk stands out as more destructive than average. DP Review concluded as much: "All lenses are susceptible to lens flare to some degree [...] But in our shooting we've found that it's a little more noticeable on the iPhone 5". Just like the iPhone 4's antenna... not an Apple-only issue but more severe than the average.
So, is it unfair to make a big deal about issues with Apple products in cases where it's just a little worse than the average? IMO yes, for the simple reason that we're arguably dealing with the least modest company in the world. Everything they release is "THE bestest evvar in the history of the universe!!!". It's not merely great, it's utter perfection, it's "magical", it's 50 years ahead of the pack, it toasts the competition, blasts it to smithereens with a laser cannon, and dances all over its graveyard. And the products are priced accordingly. Therefore, Apple deserves the pickiest and most anal customer base in the world, with ridiculous expectations and entitlement up to their ears. The company asked for it. They signed away their right to play the "nodoby's perfect" card long ago.
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The 5 was released one week later in my country than in the US. I was reading a lot of stuff for that week and started to feel a little annoyed by all the problems. So went to the Apple Store on launch day and bought one with the idea of returning it if I didn't like a single thing of it.
Sold my 4S 3 days later. Wouldn't go back for anything. This phone is amazing.
You want an Android or Windows Phone? Go ahead, but be sure you keep your iPhone 4 and that you can return the phone you get, as you'll probably regret buying it.
Sold my 4S 3 days later. Wouldn't go back for anything. This phone is amazing.
You want an Android or Windows Phone? Go ahead, but be sure you keep your iPhone 4 and that you can return the phone you get, as you'll probably regret buying it.
I have learned, from long ago, I don't go updating stuff because the Joneses have them, and count me out from the crowd that says always update to the latest.
After many, many gadgets and computers... LATEST IS NOT ALWAYS THE GREATEST. And u can take to that to the bank.