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Is it too early to discuss iPhone 7?

Benjamin Frost said:
70% of iPhone users own a 3.5" or 4" iPhone, so that suggests that a 4" iPhone 7 would be popular.
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If that figure is even true, how many of those people bought those phones when there was no bigger option from Apple? How many can't afford to, or just haven't cared to update? Do you honestly believe that a 4" flagship alongside a 4.7" and 5.5" flagship at similar price points would be nearly as popular? I don't think so.
 
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Benjamin Frost said:
That's the figure that Tim Cook gave us last week.
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That statistic doesn't provide enough information. It may seem unthinkable to many on this board but there are people that don't upgrade until they absolutely have to. Those numbers must also include international numbers in which Apple sells older and refurbished models cheaper. The point is that the stat in a vacuum likely grossly over inflates the demand.


Here's the US distribution as of March and it will have tilted even further toward larger screen devices with 5s owners switching over.

http://www.cnet.com/news/nearly-100m-iphones-in-use-in-the-us-new-study-shows/

"CIRP says that while just 40 percent of US iPhone owners have upgraded to new models, those who own previous models, including the iPhone 5S, have only had their devices for "at most 18 months." Therefore, CIRP believes that customers will only start to upgrade to a new iPhone in the next couple of quarters, rather than immediately take the plunge in droves. Ironically, a similar scenario could play out with the elderly iPhone 4S."
 
Not too early to discuss what you'd like to see. Apple can afford to hire designers to make it look more exciting, get rid of the ugly c-section lines on the back, minimize the wasted bezel space or put them to good use like front facing stereo speakers, make a pocketable iPad Prosumer like the Galaxy Note 5, switch to SAMOLED so you don't have to play display lottery to get a non-defective one, add wireless charging, modernize iOS and remove its background multitasking limitations, drop 16GB storage for 32GB as base, allow a file manager, etc. to begin with.
 
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off_piste said:
That statistic doesn't provide enough information. It may seem unthinkable to many on this board but there are people that don't upgrade until they absolutely have to. Those numbers must also include international numbers in which Apple sells older and refurbished models cheaper. The point is that the stat in a vacuum likely grossly over inflates the demand.


Here's the US distribution as of March and it will have tilted even further toward larger screen devices with 5s owners switching over.

http://www.cnet.com/news/nearly-100m-iphones-in-use-in-the-us-new-study-shows/

"CIRP says that while just 40 percent of US iPhone owners have upgraded to new models, those who own previous models, including the iPhone 5S, have only had their devices for "at most 18 months." Therefore, CIRP believes that customers will only start to upgrade to a new iPhone in the next couple of quarters, rather than immediately take the plunge in droves. Ironically, a similar scenario could play out with the elderly iPhone 4S."
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Is this article from back in May?
 
I just want the power button back on top. Opposite the volume keys is so stupid I can't believe it happened. Even my mother with her small hands wants it on top. What were they thinking?

And a question for you guys, why do you want to lose the home button? A physical button makes sense, no?
 
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killr_b said:
I just want the power button back on top. Opposite the volume keys is so stupid I can't believe it happened. Even my mother with her small hands wants it on top. What were they thinking?

And a question for you guys, why do you want to lose the home button? A physical button makes sense, no?
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Sleep/wake on the right side makes perfect sense with the larger screens. Keeping it on the top would be difficult to press without having to completely readjust the way you grip the phone.

I'm all for moving the home button to a touch ID pad in the same area on the screen. The home button is usually the first thing to wear out anyway.
 
I'll bet 7 already has completed design along with iOS 10 buried deep inside Apple. Details with components and manufacturing take a long time. Sure Apple will have secret prototypes out by sprin
 
With my history, I'm likely to upgrade to the 7. Every 2 years I upgrade. Though, this next time, I'll just buy it outright. I've changed cell phone plans, so it doesn't save me money to get the subsidy.

I'll probably give my 6 to a family member who has the oldest phone.
 
I think while it is a bit too early still, we can hypothetically talk about what we would want in the device, and what the device would entail.

I'm always an optimist when it comes to our precious iDevices, but Apple typically sticks to very expected results.

The short list of what I would like to see:
-Wireless + Fast Charging
-Small changes to the home-button (potential removal) for larger screen, though keeping touch ID
-Better third-party support at API level for keyboards and notification center widgets
-Finally squashing the rotation/landscape bug present in iOS9
-A10 Processor?
-Better battery life can't hurt. The smaller devices -- not the plus devices, are pretty light on battery
-Bump in resolution/pixel density to match current-gen devices. I don't mind the current display, but it can't compare to the SUPER AMOLED displays many other competitors are throwing down
-Waterproof? Also, wouldn't mind a sapphire display. Butttt, beggars can't be choosers
-Getting rid of the 16GB base model, and replacing with 32GB as base, then 64GB and 128GB
-Capability to shoot 4k video at 60fps would be nice. Currently capped at 30fps. Not a big deal, but still would be nice
-Ability to remove stock apps/hide them

As for software, I would really like to see what iOS9 was intended to be. The stuttering and poor optimization of iOS9 on even the latest devices are insane. I have a 64GB 6s+ (Spring) with 9.2 Beta 1, and I'm still getting the stuttering through many transitions. iOS9 was supposed to be the stability update, but really has been anything but!

I can't complain with functionality on iOS, but I would very much so enjoy seeing the pressure sensitive force touch/3D touch being used more in apps. How many apps currently take advantage of that? I haven't seen many, besides Apple's stock apps.

Also, many of the current stock apps are buggy or outdated. Take the Game Center, for example. I get bot requests for friends pretty often, it crashes my games pretty often, it has a poor achievement system, it lacks any social concepts that would be expected of a game center, etc.

I'm pretty happy with features in iOS9, but they shouldn't be as focused on emojis, and instead work on significant improvements. Emoji's are great, but how many do you really need? They are cosmetic changes, and don't improve any current issues/bugs or make major changes or features present.

Edit: Looking back on things, I would also enjoy a bump in the contextual awareness of Siri. I know that Apple has been working with many companies to produce better AI and contextual awareness for Siri, but personally, I would benefit with having Siri do more and know more. I'm still often able to confuse Siri, by simply asking fairly basic questions. She either is unable to give an answer, or redirects me to a search instead.

Siri is critical. Google Now and Cortana are incredibly good already, and Siri could easily fall behind in the future. Google Now, for example, has context cards that pop up (albeit they aren't very good yet), for information on your screen if you hold the home button. I'd really like to see this type of implementation in iOS10. Siri also does a pretty poor job of finding that "coffee" shop nearby, and fails to find things that are relevant.

Also, where is the super touted bus-routes? I live in Minneapolis, and we have yet to receive any bus route information in the stock map app. Though, this was noted and touted as a major feature for iOS9. I'm not sure why. Public transportation is massive here in the city.
 
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I was also wondering if it's too early to think about iPhone 7 ever since the release of 6s/6s+. I have a 6 Plus which works fine for me and while I wouldn't say no to the upgrades the S cycle brought, my current phone is working too well for me to justify forking out near a grand for another phone. My biggest interest is in cosmetics, which was also another reason for not purchasing 6s/6s+.

I did hear rumors about the iPhone 7 being as thin as current iPod touch lines. Some speculate that 3D touch is Apple laying down the foundation for the removal of home button for better screen to body ratio (less bezel would be nice... 6+ feels a little too big sometimes and I have fairly large hands).

Other things I'd like to see:
better screen resolution for plus model (stop downscaling please)
no antenna bands unless they intended it as part of the design..?
no protruding camera

But to be honest, since this year's S upgrade was so huge, I wouldn't mind a slightly upgraded iPhone 6s/6s+ with a brand new design for iPhone 7. I hope it's going to have a nice design/really good update, or else I'm probably going more affordable route and buy a 6s+ off swappa when/if my 6+ quits on me.
 
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