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Is Now the Time to Upgrade Apple Devices Before Tariffs Lead to Price Increases?
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I wonder if Tim wishes he'd ridden his scuba mask off into the sunset last year
Instead he's Captain while the boat just hit the iceberg.
Instead he's Captain while the boat just hit the iceberg.
And now caved in on everyone else because "countries were lining up to kiss his behind" - except that he got very public pushback from Canada, Mexico, Japan and the EU, which has just slapped on another 25% on US imports. Can you say pump and dump?
Someone is making a killing and it isn't the average US citizen.
If you want a spare phone or a new phone, buy now. Nobody knows how the tariffs will hit. You sign contracts with telco companies, who says they don't pass down the increases to consumers. Of course they do!
One thing I'm sure of is prices will increase on the 17s with no new vast improvements, so get these 16s if you need a phone. Everything is getting more expensive and with a tariff, ppl will freak.
One thing I'm sure of is prices will increase on the 17s with no new vast improvements, so get these 16s if you need a phone. Everything is getting more expensive and with a tariff, ppl will freak.
I’m not sure I see that angle.
That only “covers” it if the lost sales don’t eat up the revenue due to lost sales. And sales would drop two fold:
1. In a vacuum, sales drop because some people simply won’t be able to afford or justify the new price.
2. In a competitive world, they’ll lose sales to competitors.
After all, if Apple thought they could increase total revenue by charging $100 more, capitalism would dictate they should. They don’t need a tariff to follow capitalism.
At some point they make more money doing business as usual in the world and just dropping the US market, like a bunch of companies will likely do.
And my final counterpoint is that the best thing for Apple is for these new tariffs to go back to where they were, or at the very least are targeted. By making every US iPhone user painfully aware that a new one cost $500 (or whatever the calculation is tomorrow, $1000?) more, the tariffs are more likely to become reasonable. The downside being Trump could retaliate directly against Apple for being transparent, something a certain kind of ruler hates.
I just don’t see a reason to think a sound business decision will counter what is happening. Better at some point to just not try, and let the rest of the world enjoy some semblance of normalcy.
If apple were to impose tariff increased pricing I won't be affected at least. Seeing the M4 generation made a huge stride over M3 was enough to push me to buy both the M4 iPad Pro && the M4 Max MBP [would have been nice if it were a studio but nevertheless the charging these days is super fast and I'm more than happy] 1-1.5 hr = 80%-full. I feel I'm happy at least 5-6 years which is a worthwhile risk. The M4 Max is so fast, so so fast beyond my actual needs and the M4 in the iPad Pro is just nuts.
Same with the phone && ultra watch.
That said anyone who is yearly buying might just rethink their choices [hopefully] should a tariff kick in and induce some sense of sensibility knowing the product is still good a year later. or even more...
Same with the phone && ultra watch.
That said anyone who is yearly buying might just rethink their choices [hopefully] should a tariff kick in and induce some sense of sensibility knowing the product is still good a year later. or even more...
Exactly that's why I buy outright now. In Australia they slap 60$/month minimum on contracts which is stupid.
Plus paying outright I can find a contract or small plan at 29$/month instead for the same amount of data/inclusions.
Some will say financing is good but value wise the carrier offers are stupid here and overpriced. Maybe if the actual device was financed I have no issues; but to be coerced to pair it [we don't get nice financing like apple use here] it has to eb done through a credit card provider which already imposes monthly fees [that's the charge]
Well, I immediately jumped at a chance to get a new iPad Air 13" 512 GB as soon as possible. I don't want to be facing a US$500 increase in the price of getting that same iPad Air model.
The problem with that is the US industries that currently enjoy tariff protection don't want that, they'll want the other countries to lower theirs while keeping the US ones in place.
For example, US sugar producers enjoy tariff-quota protection. If that is eliminated they'd likely be out of business, which actually be good for the environment but bad for the companies and employees.
Light truck manufacturers are protected by the famous 25% 'chicken tax.' I doubt they'd want that to go away in exchange for no tariffs on US vehicles in the EU, although BMW might like the deal.
That's hilarious since the US Tariffs were set based on trade deficit and have nothing to do with tariffs charged on US goods. You bought the lie. LMAO.
Yea, I bet if the EU said "we'll reduce all our tariffs on US goods to 0 if you do the same for all EU goods,' the US would turn down the deal despite their rhetoric. They already turned down a partial 0 tariff deal from the EU.
The corresponding price drop in EU goods would likely result in a higher market share for them in the US, at the expense of US companies, than the market share of US companies' goods in the EU.
The argument would simply turn to some other issue to try to justify why they turned down the deal, such as regulations.
It also appears the trade numbers ignore services and focus instead on goods only, last time I looked at the numbers; which skews the picture.
I agree. In fact, I believe that they are really implementing these tariffs to collect revenue that they can then gift to the wealthy in the form of "tax cuts". IOW, tax the poor and regular folks and give to the rich. Of course, Trump would never say this out loud. As for me, I picked up an in-stock 15" MBA M4, even though my 13" MBA M2 is still great. I wanted a bigger one and I don't want to be shut out by what is now a 145% tariff down the road. And as fate would have it in this crazy world the FedEx driver that delivered it left it in front of my neighbor's house (they weren't home) and faked my signature for the delivery. Luckily I saw what happened on my front security cam video and was able to retrieve it.
While everyone is talking about the future pricing of Apple products as a result of the Tariffs. I can only assume that these price rises will be in the US only. As far as I am aware taxes on China from the EU and the rest of the world remain the same. It will be hilarious to see American tourist lining up at Apple store overseas to pick up iPhones. The other issue I think is interesting, I heard Peter Navarro talking about VAT in the EU as a tax on USA products. He is either deliberately spreading disinformation or is misinformed. VAT in Europe is essentially a sales tax and does not discriminate on the origin of a product. All sales are subject to VAT including locally manufactured products. Europeans would love to see VAT reduced but please try not to muddy the waters with false information.
If this comes to pass I can see Trump tasking customs agents to screen returning passengers to check for such contraband. Then he will deport any violators, US citizens or not, to Venezuelan prisons.
This is the EXACT reason why tariffs are not generally something developed countries deploy as much as developing countries... developing countries with emerging industries need them, but developed rich countries like the US with mature industries do not.
Yes the EU economy is smaller than the US, on both sides of that equation: Our household consumption spend is TWICE that of the EU. You're not going to magically get the EU and China to start consuming at US levels by thinking you can force companies to bring production back to the US...
Wal Mart thrives here because it's selling goods that are manufactured in other countries that they can sell at very low prices. What happens to all the discount stores when suddenly $30 shoes cost $300? I get my sneakers made in Massachusetts, that's how much they cost. But for every one of me there are 9 others who can't afford shoes like that, and those are just my "cheap" shoes.
Not only will it take decades to move production, but now all the factories will cost many times more to build because we just tariffed their raw materials... e.g. steel from France and India.
So what happens when 304 million people suddenly, without warning or time (read: decades) for incomes to adjust, have to pay more for everything? Look no further than the Great Depression.
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I noticed this also and looked up the numbers. The US had a $278 billion surplus in service trade, which makes up almost ¾ of the deficit in goods. When you see the combined deficit is only around $120 billion, it becomes obvious that there is deception going on. Of course, the bad faith the US is generating will diminish our services surplus. There's really nothing good that will come from this inconceivably idiotic tariff nonsense.
The VAT is a tax on US products. That is the half-truth used to deceive. The full truth is that it applies to all products, even those produced in the EU. I had the brain-fart earlier of not considering the full truth. In my case it was a mistake. Navarro is being purposefully deceptive.
The average EU vat is around 21%, which is a bit too much for a sales tax. Americans would never abide such a high sales tax..... except... irony alert, since so many of the products people buy in the US (like almost everything on the shelf at Walmart) are imported, the tariffs are tantamount to an exceptionally high sales tax which disproportionately hits the lower 50% in income. The quote apocryphally attributed to HL Mencken is appropriate here: "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Nothing stops Apple from spreading all tariff cost on products sold worldwide, although there are tax implications of such a move.
Plus get a VAT refund…
What? A politician made misleading or false statements? I am shocked.
I know you are being sarcastic but Navarro is an economist too. This fact contributes to the farce of his opinions.
There are two types of economists. Ones who understand that economics is a science which requires scrupulous adherence to the facts and ones who are political ideologues. Unfortunately, the ideologues are loudest and least scrupulous, more pseudoscientists than scientists.
Go out and buy Lol, prices are going up!!!
That's why you don't react to speculation and nonsensical media that tries to scare you into buying.
Smartphones and computers are now exempt from Trump’s latest tariffs | CNN Business
Electronics imported to the United States will be exempt from President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, according to a US Customs and Border Protection notice posted on Friday.
www.cnn.com
I never once said buy an iPhoneGo out and buy Lol, prices are going up!!!
That's why you don't react to speculation and nonsensical media that tries to scare you into buying.
Smartphones and computers are now exempt from Trump’s latest tariffs | CNN Business
Electronics imported to the United States will be exempt from President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, according to a US Customs and Border Protection notice posted on Friday.
Right now
In fact you will find that the president of the USA buckled & caved.
Because if he never then the prices would have went up 😂😂😂