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No, it’s time to decide that you are going to keep your iPhone for a few more years instead of upgrading for minimal changes in hardware.

Exactly. I'll pay a tariff on a new battery for my existing phone if I have to, I guess. But if all Apple has to offer is a bigger camera tumor or a new button that gets in the way, they can keep it.
 
Exactly. I'll pay a tariff on a new battery for my existing phone if I have to, I guess. But if all Apple has to offer is a bigger camera tumor or a new button that gets in the way, they can keep it.
How about a phone with future features that never get rolled out? I got suckered into the iPhone 16 Pro. Not much different than my 14 Pro. But at least I got an image playground!
 
lol no. Apple isn’t going to do jack about iPhone pricing because consumers are already backing off on luxury purchases even before the word “tariff” was ever uttered.
Cook is a dial tone but he’s not stupid. If he touches the pricing he will see profits fall off a cliff.
If he doesn't touch pricing, then profits will still fall off a cliff.
 
The Market HATES uncertainty. Businesses HATE uncertainty. Everything is going to be uncertain. :confused:
I think it unlikely companies will invest in building new factories and training workers to return manufacturing to the United States when that takes years and there is no certainty over what will be happening in much shorter timescales.
 
so its not an American product? or its American Product but controlled by Chinese Government.
 
Time to cut America off.

The Euro should be the world default currency now.
I imagine the default currency will end up being the Renminbi once China overtakes the US as the world’s biggest economy. Both China and the EU are about $20 trillion in GDP terms compared to the US at about $30 trillion, the difference being China is growing very fast, the EU slowly and the US has just pushed the self destruct button.
 
Sales declining in Europe would be a US problem.
Yes as far as iPhones and other US products sold are concerned. I'm talking about other things impacted by tariffs in both directions. Companies everywhere depend on parts and other things from various countries. Everyone's cost to produce will go up and everyone will see markets reduced.
 
Luckily I got my MacBook Pro last year and new iPad end of Feb. I did want to get a new iPhone, the Air possibly but if here in the UK it's price goes over a grand I won't that's for sure.
 
The thought of no longer having the luxury of cheap Chinese goods really has folks in a tailspin doesn't it?
When everything, even the high-end products are designed to be disposable and non-repairable, and companies continue to institute practices that make DIY and self repair impossible, it should absolutely bother everyone.

I'm over the people that are so shortsighted and unable to think more than a single step of separation beyond themselves in how this will impact everyone in the long term. Let's take the Ford F150. It is assembled in the USA, but uses thousands of parts some from the US, but many from other countries. Those parts will now be subject to the Tariffs. This is bad for a couple reasons: 1) Ford will need to raise the price in the short term while they figure out what they can source in the USA vs what it is better to pay the tariff on in the long term. 2) Autos around the world have become safer and more reliable and a large part is automakers were able to take advantage of a global economy to source the best balance of cost and quality. You can't just pivot and start making X part in the USA and expect the same quality. It could take years to get it right and in the meantime the cost goes up and the end product is measurably worse. If you like a $120,000 base model truck of questionable quality with a 1980's style 3year/36,000 mile (for everything nothing extended for the powertrain) warranty, we're on our way.

This will apply across just about every consumer sector across the world because of this crap.

The USA has an aging infrastructure problem. A problem that is now a lot more expensive, which means more incentive to rush and cut corners. But it'll be ok because an American CEO will get a huge bonus for selling something that will last half as long as what it replaces. This will negatively impact everyone except those with a net worth in the hundreds of millions or more.
 
Yes as far as iPhones and other US products sold are concerned. I'm talking about other things impacted by tariffs in both directions. Companies everywhere depend on parts and other things from various countries. Everyone's cost to produce will go up and everyone will see markets reduced.
Absolutely. There are no winners, and that’s why it is so dumb.
The big difference is that in the rest of the world nobody actually voted for this to happen.
 
When everything, even the high-end products are designed to be disposable and non-repairable, and companies continue to institute practices that make DIY and self repair impossible, it should absolutely bother everyone.

I'm over the people that are so shortsighted and unable to think more than a single step of separation beyond themselves in how this will impact everyone in the long term. Let's take the Ford F150. It is assembled in the USA, but uses thousands of parts some from the US, but many from other countries. Those parts will now be subject to the Tariffs. This is bad for a couple reasons: 1) Ford will need to raise the price in the short term while they figure out what they can source in the USA vs what it is better to pay the tariff on in the long term. 2) Autos around the world have become safer and more reliable and a large part is automakers were able to take advantage of a global economy to source the best balance of cost and quality. You can't just pivot and start making X part in the USA and expect the same quality. It could take years to get it right and in the meantime the cost goes up and the end product is measurably worse. If you like a $120,000 base model truck of questionable quality with a 1980's style 3year/36,000 mile (for everything nothing extended for the powertrain) warranty, we're on our way.

This will apply across just about every consumer sector across the world because of this crap.

The USA has an aging infrastructure problem. A problem that is now a lot more expensive, which means more incentive to rush and cut corners. But it'll be ok because an American CEO will get a huge bonus for selling something that will last half as long as what it replaces. This will negatively impact everyone except those with a net worth in the hundreds of millions or more.

They offshored jobs very quickly in the 90's. They can reshore just as quickly. And they will if they want to avoid tariffs. Don't be a corporate bootlicker.
 
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