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Is The Lack Of Ram Annoying Now?

You guys just have to make a decision right now to stop feeding into sunking101's OCD. He's been belaboring this topic all week long in several different threads, and he's gonna keep on doing it while you all give him attention. Just say GO (away) or stop responding to him.
 
phillytim said:
You guys just have to make a decision right now to stop feeding into sunking101's OCD. He's been belaboring this topic all week long in several different threads, and he's gonna keep on doing it while you all give him attention. Just say GO (away) or stop responding to him.
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Lol. Any problem someone has with an Apple product is 'wrong', 'trivial' or now an 'OCD'.
I didn't start this thread and have merely been contributing to RAM-related discussions. I'm replying to people who have quoted me, as it's polite to do so. I'm quite happy to stop discussing the subject.
 
It does do it though. It had happened. Iphone 5 here. Sometimes it stays. Sometimes it reloads. Doesn't bother me though.
 
Hmmmm. The more I'm reading these threads the more I'm thinking I'm gonna wait a bit before getting my first iphone. Was interested in the 6 Plus but a lot of doubt with the hardware. Windows phone is incredibly smooth with 2 GB ram.
 
sunking101 said:
All those who don't understand the problem should watch this video. It's an iPad and not an iPhone but that's of no consequence, the same issue affects my iPhone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7pEgZ-SIVI&sns=em

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It isn't trivial to me in the slightest. It bugs me every single day.
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Cant people see this is a problem? Why are apple not tackling this problem with such an easy solution?

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Sevanw said:
Hmmmm. The more I'm reading these threads the more I'm thinking I'm gonna wait a bit before getting my first iphone. Was interested in the 6 Plus but a lot of doubt with the hardware. Windows phone is incredibly smooth with 2 GB ram.
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I have to use the iOS platform because of many reasons.

Believe me, if iOS was available and supported natively on other hardware (like different pcs with different OS), I would not have brought an iphone.

iPhones are fantastic phones, but this ram issue is quite a big issue now, and websites are still getting more and more heavier in terms of size, so this problem will increase not decrease.
 
Konvictz said:
Cant people see this is a problem? Why are apple not tackling this problem with such an easy solution?

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I have to use the iOS platform because of many reasons.

Believe me, if iOS was available and supported natively on other hardware (like different pcs with different OS), I would not have brought an iphone.

iPhones are fantastic phones, but this ram issue is quite a big issue now, and websites are still getting more and more heavier in terms of size, so this problem will increase not decrease.
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Like I said before, it's clearly not a problem for most people. I'm not sure what outcome you're hoping for here. Well, actually, I know you're hoping for an increase in RAM, but I mean I don't know what you're hoping for here on this board.
 
phillytim said:
You guys just have to make a decision right now to stop feeding into sunking101's OCD. He's been belaboring this topic all week long in several different threads, and he's gonna keep on doing it while you all give him attention. Just say GO (away) or stop responding to him.
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It is a real problem though. If I'm typing up a post and need to look something up, I have to make sure that I don't have too many tabs open, since otherwise I just lose everything.

I wish Apple would just let us pay for extra RAM like they do on the MacBooks. Or even make it an upgrade included with the 64GB and 128GB models. But for anyone who uses their phone to any real extent will feel the RAM limitations in some way or another. Sticking with 1GB will also likely be a problem when iOS9 comes around
 
terraphantm said:
It is a real problem though. If I'm typing up a post and need to look something up, I have to make sure that I don't have too many tabs open, since otherwise I just lose everything.

I wish Apple would just let us pay for extra RAM like they do on the MacBooks. Or even make it an upgrade included with the 64GB and 128GB models. But for anyone who uses their phone to any real extent will feel the RAM limitations in some way or another. Sticking with 1GB will also likely be a problem when iOS9 comes around
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Exactly.

Some people actually use their phones now for more than just checking stocks and weather like apple make iphone users out to be.

iPad is literally years away from being the desktop replacement many claim it to be, if you cant do simple tasks without messing up then its not there.

Furthermore its not like nfc or mobile payments where the problem and solution is hard to identify (many companies have opted out of apple's mobile payments by the way).

The ram issue is in fact very very simple, the problem and the solution is so simple - thats why it is a big issue.

I dont mind that iphone is behind its competition hardware wise, it more than makes up in the software and this was fine until the browser refresh thing kept happening. And this is happening because of the hardware, so it needs to be updated so this problem stops happening.

iPhone is not a numbers system, I dont care that the screen size or whatever has been so far behind the competition because the performance was good. I wouldnt even care if iphone had 16 mb of ram if it did not affect performance, but clearly it does affect me and many many other users.
 
I know right! Kind of like how linux PC's with 1GB of RAM seems to run smooth and flawless. It's a good thing you got your windows PC that requires 8GB of RAM! Clearly higher specs means better! RIGHT!

/sarcasm
 
Realistically, iOS handles not having much RAM very well. 1GB is enough for most consumers using the device. Safari is the first major area that people will notice a RAM issue due to page reloads in tabs when you have a decent number of tabs like I have open right now. The Safari browser however is designed to refresh page information more readily. The second place where people normally notice RAM issues is when they don't close any apps (like me) and then you have some apps randomly crashing due to not enough RAM. My error log on iPads and iPhones show the exact same issues due to my usage pattern. I doubt that even 4GB of RAM would help me realistically. I would just use up the 4GB cache and then start crashing apps again. Now, if Apple started to readjust RAM actively to the latest 2-4 running apps, that would probably help but I'm not expecting that until maybe 4-6 more generations of product.
 
That's a safari problem. I don't have the tab problem on chrome.

Konvictz said:
Cant people see this is a problem? Why are apple not tackling this problem with such an easy solution?

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I have to use the iOS platform because of many reasons.

Believe me, if iOS was available and supported natively on other hardware (like different pcs with different OS), I would not have brought an iphone.

iPhones are fantastic phones, but this ram issue is quite a big issue now, and websites are still getting more and more heavier in terms of size, so this problem will increase not decrease.
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Konvictz said:
I dont mind that iphone is behind its competition hardware wise, it more than makes up in the software and this was fine until the browser refresh thing kept happening. And this is happening because of the hardware, so it needs to be updated so this problem stops happening.
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The browser refresh thing has been there since the original iPhone. It occurred less often on the iPhone 5/iPad 4 with iOS 6 but returned with a vengeance on iOS 7.
 
The whole RAM bitch-fest has become redundant. I'm seeing copious amounts of people who don't eve know the definition of the word or the functionality piss and moan. I, for one, couldn't care less. I've already gotten used to the refresh situation since my 3G, and having to reload an open app which takes approximately 2-3 seconds to do does not kill me.

Just because another company is doing something, doesn't mean Apple is forced to follow suit. Apple craft their hardware and Software to work seamlessly as one for a reason. But if you don't understand that ethic, then go pick up a something put together by random parts that make up "good specs" .
 
I've had the devices since the iPhone. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't. I just looked and I have five tabs open and all are fine. It never struck me as an issue, some of it will more likely be the site itself forcing that as well.

The only annoying I find is the people talking about these kind of figures. It is meaningless and pointless, alternative perhaps changing the himem setting on bootup :p
 
Brian Y said:
I stopped reading after the first line.

Adding RAM will not just magically stop software behaving how it has likely been designed. Say, right now, Safari is programmed to allow 6 or 7 tabs (I have no idea what the actual number is) before it starts dumping them out of memory. If we double the RAM to 2GB, and Safari now allows 14 tabs open, people will still moan that "OH WHEN I HAVE 15 TABS OPEN THEY START RELOADING, WE NEED 4GB OF RAM".

iOS is designed to be clever with memory. In fact, I would bet that you would probably notice 0 difference if the iPhone 5S had only 1/2 the RAM is has now. RAM is assigned to what is needed, and I think it's a safe bet to say that if you have 20 tabs open in safari, those 20 tabs probably don't need to be in memory.

A smarter solution, IMO, would be to cache the tabs to flash instead of reloading them - but that's a software design issue, not an "WE NEED MORE RAM" issue.
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I have always wondered why they dont cache the webpage instead of reloading it? That use to frustrate me to no end when i had sprints ****** 3G
 
Konvictz said:
Cant people see this is a problem? Why are apple not tackling this problem with such an easy solution?

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I have to use the iOS platform because of many reasons.

Believe me, if iOS was available and supported natively on other hardware (like different pcs with different OS), I would not have brought an iphone.

iPhones are fantastic phones, but this ram issue is quite a big issue now, and websites are still getting more and more heavier in terms of size, so this problem will increase not decrease.
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I do love how you reply to people who agree with you, but ignore those who don't agree.

"It's a problem because I say so" springs to mind. To me, it's not a problem at all.
 
Konvictz said:
Ram is not something we should be having to complain about in 2014.
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I'm not complaining. I fully understand the consequences of RAM and how important it is. So far, my 5S has been just fine with 1GB of RAM. Who gets so bent out of shape that a tab refreshes? No, a tab refresh does not obviate the usefulness of tabs, not even close. I have instant access to over a dozen tabs at any time -- if the page refreshes, big whoop. It takes a second or two at most. In fact, there are many tabs that having it refresh on me saves time since most of time the reason I have the tabs there in the first place is to check on new updates frequently, which requires a refresh.

Would it be better if there was enough RAM that I could hold over a dozen tabs open and have none of them ever refresh? Perhaps. But it's so far from the cries of 'unacceptable' that I just can't relate to all the gnashing of teeth of and wailing to the skies about it.

I'm far, FAR more interested in them, for example, giving us back a compact view option for the music player (having to scroll-scroll-scroll-scroll through 8 albums of a band to get to the one song you want to play sucks rocks).

Refresh on a tab that has almost zero impact on my life when it refreshes and is something I'd most likely be refreshing anyway? Suuuuch a non-issue.
 
Is having multiple tabs and going back and forth between them on the iPhone 5 slow? Never used an iPhone 5, genuine question.
 
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