There, I fixed it for you. The iPhone 3G is just as pitiful as the first gen iPhone in terms of resources. Your argument is not valid.
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Is there a physical reason that the original iPhone and iPod touch can't run 4.0?
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There, I fixed it for you. The iPhone 3G is just as pitiful as the first gen iPhone in terms of resources. Your argument is not valid.
What do you mean it is faster - in terms of downloading data on a 3G connection? Of course it will be ... have I missed the point?
The iPhone and iPhone 3G are identical in terms of GPU, CPU and Memory. The only difference between the iPhone and iPhone 3G is the 3G cellular data.
You didn't miss anything. He doesn't know what he's talking about, yet he still continues to keep using the same argument as if he's right.
The 2nd gen iPod touch got a GPU upgrade but the iPhone 3G uses the same GPU as the original iPhone.
They're not letting the original iPhone upgrade to 4.0 at all, but iPhone 3G users can.
I think it is time for the first gen owners to upgrade to something newer.
Needless to say my family members whom have my old iphones would need to upgrade. And they are still completely happy with the original phone. But I don't think they need OS 4.
I think Apple should only be obligated to support a phone for 2-3 years. Which is much longer than the average lifespan of a phone.
I don't know about you folks but before the iPhone I was getting a new phone every year. They all died on me, or looked soo old by the time the year was over.
Needless to say my family members whom have my old iphones would need to upgrade. And they are still completely happy with the original phone. But I don't think they need OS 4.
I think Apple should only be obligated to support a phone for 2-3 years. Which is much longer than the average lifespan of a phone.
I don't know about you folks but before the iPhone I was getting a new phone every year. They all died on me, or looked soo old by the time the year was over.
Try saying that to a business who uses over 50 original iPhones as their ePOS system. There are some 3Gs and a couple of 3G S devices.
Never insulted you. You said Apple was treating you like an idiot. I stated perhaps not acting like one would help. This did not imply you were one. It was simply a response to your comment. Whether or not you are one is not my judgment to make.
At exactly what point in history did it become non-insulting to tell someone that they are acting like an idiot?
By that logic I should junk my 1993 Bronco, even though it starts better than most new cars. I should also trash my 1975 Mamiya M645, even though the image quality from it puts my DSLR to shame. Speaking of my DSLR, it's about the same age as my iPhone - I guess that means it's junk too.
And since I'm sure that you are going to mention that none of those things is really computer industry stuff, I will save the unnecessary post and ask you this; What exactly should I do with my excellent condition, fully functional, and complete NeXTstation turbo? Is it time to recycle* it?
*In case you did not know, many "recycled" electronics end up in third world landfills.
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Nobody's asking for the first gen to get multitasking. They just want OS 4 on their fully capable device that has identical specs as the 3G.
I am not really into the debate anymore but something obviously isn't the same on both of those phones for one to be much slower than the other. Can anyone explain that? Why is the 2G so much slower if it's identical to the 3G?
Bat Commander-
If you were Steve Jobs, when would you end support for the 2G phone? Not asking for an argument or anything. I am just curious to hear when YOU think it's a good time to end support for the 2G. Now? Next year? What would you do?
The iPhone "2G" isn't slower than the iPhone 3G. They run exactly the same. I have BOTH. I have no life so I've gone and even restored both of them to the same OS version and tested them side by side. I saw that they completed tasks and launched apps at the same exact time. I don't know where you're getting that the iPhone 3G is faster.
If I were Steve Jobs, I wouldn't have ended support for the iPhone "2G" as long as the same software could run reasonably well on the identical iPhone 3G.
I dare anyone to show me a freshly restored iPhone "2G" and an iPhone 3G running side by side with the same OS (without restoring to a backup) and prove to me that the iPhone 3G is faster.
You didn't answer the question. You went around it.
If you were Steve Jobs, when would you end support for a 3 year old device? How long would you support that device?
You didn't answer the question. You went around it.
If you were Steve Jobs, when would you end support for a 3 year old device? How long would you support that device?
I would support the device until I ended support for the iPhone 3G (since they're the same hardware specs). So if the iPhone 3G can have 4.0, there's no reason the original can't have 4.0.
So, you would support the 2G longer than the 3G? Why? So instead of having 2G owners being upset, you will have 3G owners now upset because they will be complaining you supported the 2G longer than the 3G.
Would you still support the 2G even if the user experience is not the best and results in unhappy customers? I don't think people fully understand the "big picture". Sure Apple wants you to upgrade. I am sure it's for good reason too besides making them more money.
This is all forgetting the fact that this is a mobile phone and that market comes out with new phones every 6-12 months and the average support time for said phone is about 1-2 years. If that. Beyond that support is no longer available. What makes the iPhone any different?
Reason: There are 3G's still under contract. You can also buy one right now at Apple or AT&T stores. Apple would like these to sell. AT&T would like these to sell; in fact, it'd be stupid to NOT support a phone that's still selling.
However, the 2G/Edge phone is no longer for sale. This is not a physical reason; it's an informed business decision. From a business perspective, Apple has no incentive to get you to keep an product that's out of production. Sure, they'd love you to buy apps, but it'd be even better for you to just buy a new iPhone.
Look around you for anecdotal evidence. Apple users tend to be excited about Apple's latest products. You don't see many Mac users playing around with old 12" Powerbooks or candy-colored iMacs. Hell, even PC users don't do the same. You have to know your customer base - a tech geek who deliberately uses old products is a rare thing. Even worse, they're unprofitable to please. Why devote resources to a 2G fanbase that's rapidly shrinking when the whole world is still snapping up 3G/3Gs's and we can't get our hands on the iPhone 4G? It's the same reasons artists don't tour in support of old albums and there aren't any programs for Windows 95. It costs money to keep up with technology for both consumers AND manufacturers. A hardware manufacturer isn't going to subsidize anything for you. They're here to introduce products and conduct business.
Asking Apple to support 2Gs is like asking a gym to let you come in and work out even though your membership expired. It's like asking for a free car repair even through it's out of warranty. It's like saying your pizza wasn't cooked properly and asking for a refund or new pizza, even though you ate the whole thing. Yes, it'd be great if they helped you. But you're not Apple's friend - you're a customer. A business will only support you for the normal life of a product. Customers need to pay, unfortunately.
I didn't say "longer than". I'd support it UP UNTIL I ended support for the iPhone 3G since it's the SAME. That's all.
Like I said, you would support the 2G LONGER THAN the 3G. Think about it for a minute. It will come to you. Lol.
Again - they're technically the same, but the business terms and conditions surrounding each model is different. The 2G is no longer for sale. The 3G is. One is profitable to continue supporting. One isn't. Guess which one!