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Is using MyFi stealing?
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How did you get the 10-day trial of the No Rock version? I thought the 10 day trial only came with the Rock version??
Not quite 'nuff. Your contract with your ISP allows you to service as many devices as you like from your drop, so your conscience should be clear about that.
On the other hand, ATT's contract with you is written such that you are only permitted to use their bandwidth to service your iPhone. Period. If you want to access ATT's cellular data network with your iPad, there's a contract for that. And you didn't buy it.
So by using MiFi you're taking something of value from another without paying for it. There are criminal statutes in every state defining this with different terms, but in the end they all say you are a thief, plain and simple.
Deal with it.
I agree. I pay $30 a month for 5GB of data, and I use well less than 1GB a month. If they want to charge me another $20 for the privilege of using the rest of that data through my phone on another device, screw 'em. If they want to PROMISE me that at some point they're planning on charging me $20 for the privilege of using the rest of that data through my phone on another device, and then don't even deliver, screw 'em twice.
lol. posting a thread like this HERE will always bring out the moral crusaders. why even ask? people here think your a criminal if you actually use a return policy. So I guess I should go on the lamb for tethering my ipad to mywi everyday at work. 
Went to RockYourPhone site (on computer) and registered, signed up for 10 day MyWi trial.
Used Cydia to install RockApp, signed in, used RockApp to get MyWi trial
Tried it out (wireless and USB) and decided to buy it.
Used RockApp to buy license thru Paypal
Used Cydia to go to MiWi (No Rock) and downloaded myWi again via verified license.
Removed RockApp and Rock Extensions leaving MyWi only.
If the MyWi NoRock site was working correctly it would have been alot easier.
lol. posting a thread like this HERE will always bring out the moral crusaders. why even ask? people here think your a criminal if you actually use a return policy. So I guess I should go on the lamb for tethering my ipad to mywi everyday at work.
Nah. But you might want to say three "Our Fathers" and two "Hail Marys".
Self-flagellation is also appropriate.
lol. posting a thread like this HERE will always bring out the moral crusaders. why even ask? people here think your a criminal if you actually use a return policy. So I guess I should go on the lamb for tethering my ipad to mywi everyday at work.
Actually, I don't care what you do on your phones. I'm in the process or resyncing my phone after JB with Spirit and MyWi while I type. I wasn't making a moral judgment, rather giving information so people can make informed decisions to OP's question.
On that note. I just reviewed the current ATT contract and the stance on tethering has changed somewhat. While it's still prohibited, the ramifications are listed:
AT&T reserves the right to (i) deny, disconnect, modify and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network, including without limitation, after a significant period of inactivity or after sessions of excessive usage
So go for it. In theory you could receive a retro-active bill, but I doubt any action would be taken.
where in the TOS does it say there is a 5GB cap? no where. AT&T unlimted data is just that, unlimited. only part that is "illegal" is the jailbreak, at least according to apple ne way. Jailbreaking only voids ur warranty if you dont do a restore b4 bringing it in for repairs
the way i view it is just use your head. their not gonna go hunting for people that tether. but im sure theyll come after people with excessive usage.
Interesting, and would be a valid analogy if only your voice contract stated you were the only one permitted to speak on the phone. Except it doesn't, so that's a false comparison
That's not what Net Neutrality means. It has to do with governing and throttling different types of data across a connection. It has nothing whatsoever to do with what devices can or cannot use a connection
Attempting to align a phone function with what is acknowledged by everyone as a violation of your terms of service doesn't work. Your analogy is misaligned; while your argument is lucidly stated, it is ultimately incorrect.
Look, tethering isn't a crime, but it is a clear violation of one's contract. You can try to justify it as the terms defying logic, or the fact that it's allowed in Europe and by other US carriers (Verizon for example) but at the end of the day, it's still a violation of your contract. If you're ok with that from an ethical standpoint, then you'll keep doing it. If not, you probably didn't do it in the first place.
I can't give it back and I won't. I have no intentions to stop using mywi if I find myself in need of a connection. Call me what you want but be sure to speak up from your ivory tower so I can hear you.raremage said:
I really think before you point a finger that you delete some of your past posts.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9827664&#post9827664Of course I know better but on this issue I seem to sleep soundly at night. /shrug
The problem with this topic is what started out funny turned into a bucket of fail. We're all criminals ... I bet we're all going to hell too! Deeply sorry to all those seemingly affected by this matter.
until att has an option for tethering, i dont mind using myfi
Really, that's not my experience
Really, that's not my experience
sorry if someone else already said this but..
it's stealing battery life! And from the device that lacks to the one that has plenty.... oh and it can be argued that you're stealing battery life from the more important device.
it's stealing battery life! And from the device that lacks to the one that has plenty.... oh and it can be argued that you're stealing battery life from the more important device.
This is the most sensible thing I have heard on the matter. Thanks. I share your sentiments.
Of course it is. You are violating the TOS. People will try and justify it because at&t and Apple are evil corporations and don't deserve the money they ask for their services. Whatever, do what you want, no one can stop you, but it is stealing.
You guys gotta relax a bit... Do you all go with the system and do everything you're told?
Please, you're missing a lot in life then.
Please, you're missing a lot in life then.
For some reason, the first thing that came to mind after I read your post was this classic from Fake Steve Jobs:
http://www.fakesteve.net/2009/12/a-not-so-brief-chat-with-randall-stephenson-of-att.html
The best "cable TV" analogy would be to ordering basic cable and buying an after market tuner to view premium content. Sure they are pumping the premium channels into your house, but your contract states is only for basic cable. Similarly your contract with ATT explicitly defines the service you are entitled to wich prohibits sharing the data service with other devices. ATT also specify the ramifications of tethering in the current contract. Basically you could be on the hook for retro-active service fees and contract termination.
It is violating their TOS. BUt honestly we all pay 30 bucks a month for UNLIMITED access. This means you use your connection as much as you want.
Why would it be considered stealing?.
They stiff us on text messages thats data. But they feel like charging us separately for it, 20 bucks for unlimited when it is essentially the same data you pay 30 bucks for.
I dont believe in throwing money away. Why would I pay an additional 30 bucks for another 3g connection?
We share our home internet. We take a conventional method and turn it into a wireless feed and some of us have up to 10 computers sharing the same internet @ home.
Why would it be different on ATT'S network. If I PAY OR UNLIMITED I can do whatever i want with it.
The cable companies tried to block routers during broadbands infancy. But they failed. They knew their key to success is to charge us an amount and we do with it whatever we want. It is how this business is conducted. ATT execs are just stupid to recognise their draconian methods are no longer valid.
Why would it be considered stealing?.
They stiff us on text messages thats data. But they feel like charging us separately for it, 20 bucks for unlimited when it is essentially the same data you pay 30 bucks for.
I dont believe in throwing money away. Why would I pay an additional 30 bucks for another 3g connection?
We share our home internet. We take a conventional method and turn it into a wireless feed and some of us have up to 10 computers sharing the same internet @ home.
Why would it be different on ATT'S network. If I PAY OR UNLIMITED I can do whatever i want with it.
The cable companies tried to block routers during broadbands infancy. But they failed. They knew their key to success is to charge us an amount and we do with it whatever we want. It is how this business is conducted. ATT execs are just stupid to recognise their draconian methods are no longer valid.
"Stealing" and "criminal" are just irrelevant labels meant to instill feelings of guilt and make people feel morally superior. I do it and you can call it or me whatever you want if it makes you happy. Has no affect on me (though depending on how unreasonably passionate or hostile you are in your judgement, it may cause me to perceive you as silly) I will continue to sleep well at night. Oh, and I occasionally exceed the speed limit and once took a pen home from work. My moral compass is my own and strangely I have no need to to explain it to anyone and certainly don't expect them to follow it.