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It’s definitely worth it on macs. They break a lot out of warranty. Usually there ends up being a repair program, but I always seem to have to get my repairs before Apple realizes they have a design flaw.
Intel Macs for sure. I think M1 Macs will be more reliable given my experience with iPhones and iPads over the years. They just don’t break down.
 
Just be sure that you don't want to use it for writing with the surface pen. A couple years ago, I tried this same approach. The Surface Pros have way more lag than iPads (especially the pros). The lag was so bad that I just couldn't handle it and returned the device in under a week.
 
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I stopped buying AppleCare a while back because my stuff just wasn't breaking out of warranty, and I wasn't accidentally damaging my stuff either. If I add up the amount of money I've saved by not buying AppleCare, it would probably pay for a couple of out of warranty repairs.

Basically, it's not really worth it unless you're careless with your stuff.
Not even if you’re careless because of all the exceptions of coverage 😂
 
I prefer the larger 12“ screen. I was planning to get a new MBA + iPad Pro but I think I might get a Surface Pro instead as it can act as a laptop and a tablet saving me a considerable sum.
You can’t go wrong with Microsoft. I used a surface pro 6 before and it was fantastic! However, battery life sucked and I was starting to switch to the ecosystem. Ended up switching to an intel MBA. So far loving it!
 
I stopped buying AppleCare a while back because my stuff just wasn't breaking out of warranty, and I wasn't accidentally damaging my stuff either. If I add up the amount of money I've saved by not buying AppleCare, it would probably pay for a couple of out of warranty repairs.

Basically, it's not really worth it unless you're careless with your stuff.
Not true. If i did not have apple care on my Macbook Pro 2018 I would have been paying well over $1,500 on repairs I did not do anything as far as damage or accidents in less than 2 years. Had to take it in twice. Even if it is apple’s issues (even known), you will have to pay UNLESS it is considered (or lawsuit) recall etc.

In old Apple, apple care was considered an option. In the new era of apple, apple care is part of the purchase. Maybe not on iphones, but over $2,000+ now adays a must. More complexities in tech inside also contrubutes now-a-days and gives more room for malfunction and issues.

Also, Apple use to take a longer time in testing and making sure newly designed systems and components work, but now the demand (and complaints like “old hardware” or “behind” when initial release) causes quicker turn-arounds and faster updates then released.
 
Not even if you’re careless because of all the exceptions of coverage 😂
Applecare is a no brainer on anything Apple. It’s especially great now with monthly payments.
Yup useless to even think about it, it’s useless. And because of ppl paying for it they won’t change their mind about a warranty of more than a year (1yr reallt Apple? I though you were against ewaste)
 
In my experience, the only failures I have had have been manufacturing defects that were covered out of warranty.

I have owned a
IIsi
IIvx
Quadra 840
PB 1400cs
iMac 266
iMac 333
iBook blue
iBook gray
iBook G4 14”
PowerMac G4
iMac core2Extreme
MBP 15”
MBP 13”
MBP 15” unibody (2012)

Only repairs were defects: replaced bulging batteries in a couple laptops and video card problems in the iBook G4. After the second video problem, they gave me a new “refurb” on a 3 yr old iBook G4 with the video corruption issue. And I opened, upgraded, modified and even overclocked (with solder) most of these machines.

The mobile devices have also been relatively trouble free, though the iPhone 6S was problematic. My original series watch had a bulging battery and was replaced well out of warranty. The replacement is still going strong as my sleep watch.

Forgot about:
core duo mini
Core2 mini server
Macintosh SE (still works last time I checked)
Yes…but after the end of old Apple (2012) you see more need for apple care…
 
AppleCare+ is fantastic value, especially in Japan. Standard warranty here is only 90 days, and there is no such thing as a return to a store. Basically once you buy anything here, it’s yours. The only exception is select items on Amazon.

I’m not sure what it cost in other regions or countries, but here for the 12.9 iPad it was ¥18,840 (about US $179).

I got off my lazy fat butt and with my wife’s kind help , read the agreement finally. It’s in Japanese so it’s a tedious translation and read sometimes for these kinds of documents. However to my pleasant surprise, it has no fancy legal terms or weird tricks up the sleeves.

So with this plan I get two years of very reasonable service. The only limits to damage are if something happens to it in a fire or earthquake, which is a standard term here. If I sit on it, drop it, let it sink in my bathtub, or even let it slide off the top of my car on the expressway at 120km/h, damages are covered. It cost ¥4400 (about US $42). If they only have to replace the display screen, that is one incident, if it’s bent or otherwise damaged beyond screen replacement, that is two incidents. If something happens more than screen replacement, they give you a new unit, or an equivalent new current same model unit. So that can happen only once a year since it counts as two incidents. No refurbished things are allowed. They can also refuse to extend the agreement, I think to limit perpetual abuse - otherwise I would never need to buy a new iPad.

Theft - not covered unless you buy AppleCare+ through selected carriers. I have good insurance here so that’s not a problem.

Anyway I am very pleased with the terms. Great value!
 
That's not at all accurate, unless you can show us where it officially states that.
It's consumer law in many countries.

I've had free repairs done long after the one year manufacturer warranty in both the UK and here in New Zealand. I had a 2 year old MacBook Pro repaired in New Zealand, and a 3 year old MacBook repaired in the UK.

It's part of the Consumer Guarantees Act here in New Zealand. It's illegal here for any manufacturer to limit repairs for faults to one year. Apple acknowledges the extra consumer protection you get on the local AppleCare pages: https://www.apple.com/nz/legal/statutory-warranty/ for New Zealand and https://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/ for the UK. You'll see the Uk pages say you're entitled to free repairs for up to 6 years, and for New Zealand there is no upper time limit prescribed in law.
 
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AppleCare+ is fantastic value, especially in Japan. Standard warranty here is only 90 days, and there is no such thing as a return to a store. Basically once you buy anything here, it’s yours. The only exception is select items on Amazon.

I’m not sure what it cost in other regions or countries, but here for the 12.9 iPad it was ¥18,840 (about US $179).

I got off my lazy fat butt and with my wife’s kind help , read the agreement finally. It’s in Japanese so it’s a tedious translation and read sometimes for these kinds of documents. However to my pleasant surprise, it has no fancy legal terms or weird tricks up the sleeves.

So with this plan I get two years of very reasonable service. The only limits to damage are if something happens to it in a fire or earthquake, which is a standard term here. If I sit on it, drop it, let it sink in my bathtub, or even let it slide off the top of my car on the expressway at 120km/h, damages are covered. It cost ¥4400 (about US $42). If they only have to replace the display screen, that is one incident, if it’s bent or otherwise damaged beyond screen replacement, that is two incidents. If something happens more than screen replacement, they give you a new unit, or an equivalent new current same model unit. So that can happen only once a year since it counts as two incidents. No refurbished things are allowed. They can also refuse to extend the agreement, I think to limit perpetual abuse - otherwise I would never need to buy a new iPad.

Theft - not covered unless you buy AppleCare+ through selected carriers. I have good insurance here so that’s not a problem.

Anyway I am very pleased with the terms. Great value!
Interesting in this case indeed. 90 days that’s rough. 2 yr in europe
 
So Apple is saying they don’t want me to buy a new iPad Pro. mission accomplished. I love my iPads and iPad pros, but they have been anything but reliable. Apple is basically forcing AC on us. Very unethical, and I won’t play that game.
 
It's consumer law in many countries.

I've had free repairs done long after the one year manufacturer warranty in both the UK and here in New Zealand. I had a 2 year old MacBook Pro repaired in New Zealand, and a 3 year old MacBook repaired in the UK.

It's part of the Consumer Guarantees Act here in New Zealand. It's illegal here for any manufacturer to limit repairs for faults to one year. Apple acknowledges the extra consumer protection you get on the local AppleCare pages: https://www.apple.com/nz/legal/statutory-warranty/ for New Zealand and https://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/ for the UK. You'll see the Uk pages say you're entitled to free repairs for up to 6 years, and for New Zealand there is no upper time limit prescribed in law.
However the prices and taxes you pay in those countries are astronomical.
 
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I stopped buying AppleCare a while back because my stuff just wasn't breaking out of warranty, and I wasn't accidentally damaging my stuff either. If I add up the amount of money I've saved by not buying AppleCare, it would probably pay for a couple of out of warranty repairs.

Basically, it's not really worth it unless you're careless with your stuff.
The problem is there's that manufacturing/design flaws and/or component quality issues that might rear its head past the 1 year warranty. And knowing Apple, they tend to deny any design flaws/component quality issues.

Imo if you're using your iPad for work/productivity, it's a good idea to get Apple care.
 
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By fault he means defect that were originally there. That’s covered for 2 years (or even more in some countries if the defect was hidden)
Yes, it does have to be a defect, although that covers a wide range of potential issues.

For example, the logic board failed on my MacBook Pro after 2 years. Apple repaired it for free without any hassle. Any product here has to last a "reasonable" amount of time. If a relatively expensive device fails too quickly (and that can be a period of several years), that would be classed as a defect, as it would be a reasonable expectation that it should last longer.

It's similar in many other countries, and it does reduce the attraction of AppleCare (or any other kind of extended warranty). For people in many countries, it's worth checking out your local consumer protection law before spending money on any warranty.
 
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iPad Profit

Man...incredible “repair” pricing.

I’m starting to wonder how bonkers their pricing might get over the next decade
 
Yes, it does have to be a defect, although that covers a wide range of potential issues.

For example, the logic board failed on my MacBook Pro after 2 years. Apple repaired it for free without any hassle. Any product here has to last a "reasonable" amount of time. If a relatively expensive device fails too quickly (and that can be a period of several years), that would be classed as a defect, as it would be a reasonable expectation that it should last longer.

It's similar in many other countries, and it does reduce the attraction of AppleCare (or any other kind of extended warranty). For people in many countries, it's worth checking out your local consumer protection law before spending money on any warranty.
Relying on Apple's "goodwill" seems to be unreliable these days. And Apple's track record showed that they have willingly ignored obvious defects and design flaws, with store managers more likely to charge the customers a lot of money vs the old goodwill gesture. "You're holding it wrong."
 
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