ITC Rules Apple Infringed on Samsung Patents, Issues Cease and Desist Order for Older Apple Devices

[Todd B.]

I guess money talks for $$$amsung.

Completely nonsense, though. Samsung wouldn't know an innovation if it bit them on the rear.

 

[AnalyzeThis]

Obama was quick to backup Apple, he already knew this would be the ruling.

Just like in iBook case...

 

[AidenShaw]

My wife had a Samsung TV like that when we met. I always like walking by my TV and turning it on with the button. No such luck with that samsung. Damned near impossible to operate without the remote.

My Samsung has a joystick on the back that duplicates the most common operational controls.

 

[blahblah100]

People, just stop buying Samsung product.

Look at the future you are building by buying Samsung products: copy design like a cheap ripoff rogue company, use FRAND patents that will make you pay a license for every chipset you buy.

Nonsense

Does this include Apple products which utilize Samsung products/technology?

 

[Glideslope]

Obama will say:

Well the only one of these still being sold is the iPhone 4, but that won't be much longer. Is this really going to affect anything?

No.

 

[AFDoc]

Samsung fans, tell me how "Apparatus and method for encoding/decoding transport format combination indicator in CDMA mobile communication system." is something you support going after anyone for.

If you say, 'But Apple started it', just makes Samsung as bad as you claim Apple to be, and no more taking the high-road with Samsung.

Why should they take the high road? Apple's 2 year old whining and antics by wanting to sue every one brought this on, not the other way around.

 

[toaster64]

My wife had a Samsung TV like that when we met. I always like walking by my TV and turning it on with the button. No such luck with that samsung. Damned near impossible to operate without the remote.

Yes, someone shares my pain. I put tape on top of the pressure-sensitive areas so they were actually visible. The lag when changing inputs is also terrible.

 

[SILen(e]

Like Samsung who willfully and with intent copied Apple's trade dress in order to confuse customers?

Developing and selling a smartphone in 2010 onwards without UMTS?
Impossible!

Developing and selling a smartphone in 2010 onwards that doesn't look nearly exactly like an iPhone?
Impossible - in South Korea.

Taiwan, Japan and Finland managed to do exactly that just fine.

Devices developed by HTC, Sony and Nokia never looked exactly like an iPhone (and even LG managed to have some differences in design) or iPad.

Hey, when Apple sued Samsung for using the iPad design, Samsung started to clone the design of the HTC Flyer tablet!


SPUY, you are right, what Samsung did was something totally different.

There are no alternatives to using UMTS technology, but Samsung had every opportunity to design their phones and tablets so that they are not so easily confused with an iPhone/iPad.

But this confusion was not accidental, it was always intended!

 

[GenesisST]

Who would seriously buy an iPad 2 over an iPad Mini?

Parents... prior to a 8 hour road trip to give the kids a bigger screen for movies. (Buys about 3 minutes of peace, which is totally worth it...)

 

[MikhailT]

How can the old ones infringe but new ones not? Is this hardware or software?.

Simple, the newer ones do not use the same chipset as the older ones. The patent Samsung is bitching about is on the older one, they can't claim the same on the newer chipset because the creator of that chipset already licensed it from Samsung.

 

[revixd]

*** a samsung, get an HTC instead.... so much better

 

[pipa]

Oh yeeeahhh, my phone might be illegal in the future

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Yeah, I'm also wondering how Apple is the only company at fault here according to Samsung.

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I'm just going to stop buying their stuff because the one Samsung product I bought, a TV, is really annoying. Whose idea was it to put black touch-sensitive buttons on a black bezel and have only 2 AV inputs? I like Sony a lot more.

I own the Samsung d8000 and I'm super happy with the set. The only reason I went with that is because the iTV is not out yet

 

[the8thark]

I'm no Samsung fan, but I can tell you that developing microcontrollers and software for them isn't super easy. If Samsung did it, patented it, and then Apple used it, Apple is in the wrong.

Lawyers argues Samesung was in the right here and Apple was in the wrong. But hard to tell what the real facts are. The reality distortion around lawyers is large.

 

[alexN350z]

This would happen just sooner or later. Hope Tim learn the lesson, and focusing on releasing a better phone.

 

[DisMyMac]

And what is wrong with getting compensated for the work you perform?

Bureaucracy isn't work. It's an unresponsive script, or a runaway "while" loop.

 

[samcraig]

Yawn... By the time Samsung proves iPhone 5 infringes on Samsung patents, Apple will release iPhone 7.

That's the problem with all of these lawsuits - by the time there's any judgement or ban (even this case isn't final) the infringing products are too old to care about and new ones are released and the process starts over. Quite silly.

 

[i.mac]

I own the Samsung d8000 and I'm super happy with the set. The only reason I went with that is because the iTV is not out yet

As a mater of principle, not one person should ever purchase any thing samedung manufactures.

 

[duneriderltr450]

yawn... By the time samsung proves iphone 5 infringes on samsung patents, apple will release iphone 7.

quoted for truth.

 

[samcraig]

As a mater of principle, not one person should ever purchase any thing samedung manufactures.

As a matter of principle, I don't think people should take advice from people who can't bother to use the actual company's name instead of resorting to silly name calling.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

Lawyers argues Samesung was in the right here and Apple was in the wrong. But hard to tell what the real facts are. The reality distortion around lawyers is large.

The law gives me a headache

Pay attention, it is a FRAND patent, so the "Fair" and "Reasonable" part have to apply to the license rate. 2.4% of the whole device for this one patent? Really? Are you suggesting Apple to pay 240000% of their revenue for the 10k patent involved? These are all-in-one devices.

I'm not arguing that it's fair, but rather suggesting that Apple shouldn't be above playing by the rules.

 

[Rocketman]

Has the court indicated what it considers FRAND to be? They usually do so to encourage the parties to settle. What did the others pay, if any (possible deep pockets only suit).

 

[sir1963nz]

Solution

iPhone $1
IOS = rest of price

So Samsung can have their 2c if that is how they want to play it

 

[samcraig]

iPhone $1
IOS = rest of price

So Samsung can have their 2c if that is how they want to play it

So that works in reverse - when Samsung and Google want to play that game?

 

[Dontazemebro]

Getting a kick outta watching all the ifans get up in arms over this. Apple made their bed now it's time to lie in it.

 

[Xiroteus]

And what is wrong with getting compensated for the work you perform? I would love to hire you and not pay any wages or commissions.

Some get compensated a LOT over possible petty issues. People tend to make these comments when it is regarding people that appear to be overpaid and or regarding issues that should have never started in the first place.